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Canadian Election 2019 |OT| One Long Year of Scheer Stupidity [Update: Liberal Minority Government]
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Perhaps instead of complete dependence on oil and resource extraction you could vote in a party that's looking in a completely different direction. What's happening in Alberta is destroying the planet, and you wouldn't want MORE of it if you're ever planning on procreation or living till you're old.
He's preaching to the choir, though. The people dumb enough to believe this crap have already made up their minds. All this does is make him look legit dishonest when he's campaigning against someone he's accusing of being dishonest.
This is all kinds of stupid.
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I don't dispute that. Doug Ford's government has become what we maritimers would still casually curse at and call out as, despite being contemporarily inappropriate; "Retarded"
He's cutting when his problem is revenue. NS Liberals cut subsidies to programs that generated revenue, and then they bust unions, and blame the previous NDP or Conservative provincial governments. Magically, they find the budget for big promises each election year.
Federal government blame here from me falls on it being all Liberal here, in and out of government since 1980, a 4 year shot for a PC seat and NDP seat back in the 80s and 90s. All Liberal otherwise. 40 years of Liberals for most of what is now the one riding. 1 in 3 kids here are in poverty, drug addicts roam around and hustle in plain sight, there is no funding for any services.
Meanwhile, Scheer is pulling stuff out of his ass and acting like someone who's desperate.
I wonder how this data was obtained, though. I'm not convinced.
Sounds exactly like people talking about the Green.
Maybe he saw it working previously for the NDP.
I don't really know what to make of those two things together.
I mean...we trust Franky quite a bit here haha.
polling
which... again.... is always going to be stronger conservative because millennials and gen Z really don't do polls.
Next he'll say that Trudeau and Singh would outlaw Christianity.
We really need to make politicians be held legally accountable for blatant lies.
EDIT: Correcting a typo. Damn auto correct.
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Yeah he's literally destroying the province.
Thanks for the perspective.
That sounds like Ford is doing. He magically found the money to give themselves 14% raises too.
I'm somewhat surprised he hasn't yet.
Next up: Singh will establish a Sikh province of Khalistan in Canada.
My biggest fear about this election is apathy and low turnout. In 2015, people (young people in particular), were hyped to get out and vote for Trudeau. I see none of that enthusiasm this time around and I anticipate that many people won't bother voting. I believe people prefer to vote for someone, rather than against someone, and unfortunately this election cycle has been focused on negativity, lies, and personal attacks.
Personally I hope that the Liberals can stay in power with strong showings in Ontario and Québec, but the pessimist in me is quite worried.
Personally I hope that the Liberals can stay in power with strong showings in Ontario and Québec, but the pessimist in me is quite worried.
Scheer should promise a buck a beer, then work on scandalous corporate welfare deals to federally distribute Lucky Lager for a buck a can.
Give us all the greatest collective hangover of all time.
Give us all the greatest collective hangover of all time.
Didn't this election get the biggest turnout at anticipation voting in like, ever?
Yeah.
Greens have said and are committed to a massive retrofitting plan for homes.
As well as development of local green energy projects for all regions suited to the region.
Nah, he wouldn't do that. If anything he'd just drag Canada into that problem in India against the wishes of Canadians and claim it's part of his mandate Canada voted on.
Exit poll. They asked a follow up "did you already vote".
I believe a lot of polling suggests that advance voting has favoured Conservatives. But I'd be happy to see any data that proves me wrong and helps me feel less worried!
The way scheer and some CPC candidates are acting lately are making me think what they are seeing now is closer to what maggi is showing.
I strongly believe that if a minority gouv gets elected we're going right back in election mode.
I think we'll get a year and a half/two years out of the government while they parties recoup the spent funds and come up with their strategies for the next election.
this, Scheer's insecurity is getting noticeable
and Trudeau as of yesterday as been more smiley and chippy
We only vote in Liberals. They accomplish nothing. They killed our coal industry, replaced it with Paul Martin's own imports of coal. We followed Newfoundland that lost the fishery, to Alberta. Now Liberals are trying to kill Alberta too. If there was anything viable, go for it. In the mean time we need to worry about keeping people working here.
We are already getting old. We are already procreating. The kids are growing up in under-employment and welfare conditions, many turning into unskilled NEETs well into their late 20s.
Yes, go ahead and lol at legitimate Canadian security concerns involving foreign relations.
There is evidence he does hang out with and support Khalistan sympathizers who celebrate and honour terrorists.
Maybe if there was more media scrutiny of this Jagmeet Singh candidate people wouldn't just believe the facade of "Cool dude" that stands up for minorities.
Is that Brampton candidate kicked out of the party yet? Or is it just another indigenous person and who cares?
People seem to care more about anti-Muslim racist comments than comments against indigenous people.
To know where a politician's priorities really are a person should look at what they do and who and what they stand for outside the campaign, in politics and in their private lives.
If there is something conservative governments are known for, it's certainly not austerity and more cuts, while giving tax breaks to those who are already doing fine. Best of luck to you with your choice of something federally that is wrong provincially.
The thing about Scheer is I bet a ton of conservatives will hear him say that and believe it and then spread it. this may be bias on my part but I swear conservatives and right wing people spread way more lies and misinformation and are more dishonest then the left in general. I can't handle conservatives at all. And I'm in Alberta. it sucks.
Right now the only difference between Harper's closing strategy and Scheer's is that Scheer won't be doing any events with Ford.
I do not confuse either of them.
Federally we have been fucked by getting nothing, despite being Federally Liberal for 40 years. The Federal crown corp that ran our coal here was shuttered by the Federal Liberals 20 years ago and the decline is still ravaging the place. Provincially we have been Liberal for 6 years so far, NSNDP before that for a single term. Taxes went up. Now unions were busted and the healthcare slid off a cliff into crisis. NS Liberals also gutted support for programs that helped the film industry get footing in NS. The whole place has gone to shit on Liberal watch.
I don't see a difference. Worst case, you're right. We still get fucking nothing out of the federal government. Either way, Liberals should lose here and stop taking it for granted, especially by propping up a disgraceful fucking clown like Jaime Battiste, or even Justin Trudeau himself.
Seriously. Put Garneau in the PMO, and it's likely the Red Tory Conservative support would evaporate and condense on the outside of the big Red tent again. The polarizing bullshit would be less front and center. We could all get on with our lives.
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Maybe some bad wording on my part here.
So long as Canada has FPTP strategic voting is baked into our system and it can make sense. If you're in a tight Lib/Conservative riding where the Conservatives genuinely have a very strong chance of winning honestly it makes sense go right ahead and strategically vote for Lib even if you may favour Green/NDP.
However there's plenty of ridings where the NDP do pretty well and Conservatives are a diminished threat. Here I'm suggesting I'd love to see people take the risk if they'd rather vote for the NDP than strategically.
Vancouver Centre IMO is one of those. Liberal MP Hedy Fry continuously wins in part due to incumbency and people strategically voting, but she's an awful MP. Conservatives are a factor, but it's not neck and neck or anything. Meanwhile in this election the NDP are ahead of the Liberals in BC polling and the NDP candidate for Vancouver Centre seems like a good choice. I'd love to see NDP get elected here. I think it's possible.
I don't think Singh, if he's propping up a minority government, has the mandate from voters to demand PR. It hasn't honestly been a big part of this election.
Trudeau had that mandate in 2015 and threw it away.
You may be surprised. The BC minority government has been pretty low drama over the last two years, and the government even has a zero margin for error seat count.
The NDP / Green agreement has been pretty successful and I have no reason to expect it won't last the whole 4 years until the next fixed election date.
or maybe you should try
i dunno
diversifying the economy instead of relying on oil?
you know what toronto did and why it's the biggest booming cities in the west? DIVERSIFYING. Toronto used to be THE industrial hub. that's it. 1950s the city was basically where edmonton is now. Industry started it's slow demise so what did they do? They specialized the local economy. Industry is still moving out but industry isn't what drives the city any more. They're now laying the groundwork for a tech district on old industrial land. The city used to be old and crummy and even in the 90s growth completely flatlined. By diversifying, you start creating increasing pressure on other industries to keep up. (because of growth)
Albertans identification as a people should not be oil. Be something greater. Get ahead of the curve and fix the issues in a dynamic environment and shield yourself from economic downturns. Toronto, the industrial city, hog town. Now a hotbed for software engineering, medical, bio engineering, artificial intelligence, finance and many different subcategories. Growth has led to incredibly high demand for trades.
That's why you don't go all in on one thing. You target every possible industry you can. You support it with strong colleges and universities to allow specialist training and then you make it appealing for specialists to stay.
Now as to your blame towards the liberals... the only reason Alberta is currently in dire straights lies solely at the feet of OPEC and Alberta's unwillingness to diversify and nobody else. Shale oil isn't profitable at current oil prices. Them flooding the market with oil made shale extraction unprofitable. Alberta being fucked because they keep doubling down on a single damn thing is their own fault.
Blaming the liberals for Alberta's issues is pretty much like blaming Obama because you spilled your drink because you were balancing it on your finger while the drink was being poured with everyone around you telling you it wasn't a good idea and you should stop.
If it's a Liberal-NDP or a Liberal-Green coalition then it's gonna last a while unless the Liberals think they can win a majority
what has the 9 years of Mulroney given you? what has the 9 years of Harper done for you?
your post makes no sense. You pin the misery on Atlantic Canada only on the Liberals but you ignore the disastrous recession of the Mulroney era and the hands off era of Harper era
Shit I'm getting nervous again. I can just imagine the NDP splitting the vote or a shy Tory effect or something, argh
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