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What mode are you going to play first?

  • Campaign

    Votes: 1,203 62.2%
  • Special Ops

    Votes: 31 1.6%
  • Multiplayer

    Votes: 699 36.2%

  • Total voters
    1,933

TRU

Banned
Nov 9, 2017
521
wtf is up with the constant restarting of the game because a new patch is available?

Ever 3-4 games, I get a message the game has to restart because a new patch is available? Anyone else get this?

I've been getting them too! It is soooo annoying!! It started around Thursday/Friday last week for me. I'm a Xbox X user
 

RecRoulette

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,044
This NES inspired shotgun is awesome

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Dreaver

Member
Oct 27, 2017
542
wtf is up with the constant restarting of the game because a new patch is available?

Ever 3-4 games, I get a message the game has to restart because a new patch is available? Anyone else get this?
You have to delete the whole game and download everything again. I am not joking, I had the same issue. It's the only fix, unless they fixed it.
 

flipswitch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,979
Just wondering, once the disc is installed, how many more gigs of data would I have to download, and what's the current installation size for PS4?

Thanks.
 

Alek

Games User Researcher
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
8,492
I picked this up in the holiday sale and really enjoyed the campaign. It's the first Call of Duty campaign I've beaten since Black Ops 2 or so.

I like the spec ops modes, from what I've played, but I've barely touched MP yet. Honestly the idea of SBMM puts me off, it makes me not think the grind is worth it, if it's not going to feel like I'm getting better, if matches are just going to get sweatier and less enjoyable, the more I play.
 

RingRang

Alt account banned
Banned
Oct 2, 2019
2,442
Can you play on PS4 and then move over to Xbox with all your stats moving with you?

Just wondering, once the disc is installed, how many more gigs of data would I have to download, and what's the current installation size for PS4?
Total install is around 120gigs. I believe the disc is only about 50 of that.
 

Alek

Games User Researcher
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
8,492
It's almost like they have played COD before...........

This is true, but the other reason this occurs is because there's a lot of smurfing happening. Because SBMM is aggressive, there's a huge incentive to play on fresh accounts.

Most of my friends that are playing this have smurf accounts to chill out and mess around.

Games with SBMM tend to have that issue, like if you hear people talking about League of Legends, they talk about smurfing as if it's normal. In games like Rainbow Six, which has SBMM in casual and ranked, you often find entire lobbies of smurfs who are partied up.
 
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Kadey

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
6,672
Southeastern PA
As crazy as shipment is, it's the best place to level up. One game with the double XP and I'm gaining 20k XP. This is way more fun with more people. Solo makes me rage quickly.
 

Mr.Beep

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
832
SBMM is so totally overrated.

Maybe it's because I'm in Aus and the pool of players is smaller, but I get games where people go under a 0.50 KD in TDM.

Even after a 100+ hours I still have games where I go 3-4 KD ratio.
 

Hamchan

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,045
The daily of winning 3 TDMs is like torture to me. Please let it be over so I can go back to hardpoint.
 

Deleted member 1726

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,661

Deleted member 34132

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 23, 2017
732
I got 2 free packs so far. The first one was a couple of days ago with a unicorn banner and some other unnecessary stuff. Yesterday I had a spray and a legendary SMG blueprint.

Hell, currently I'm SO in love with this game. I stopped 2 or 3 weeks after release at level 32 and in the last couple of days I made my way up to level 64. Of course there are some shitty matches when you had some good ones... So what. Take the XP, be upset for a short time, cry on resetera, move on. I had shitty matches in all CoDs I played.
 

Ensoul

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,348
Haven't played this game in a while and I see they made 10 v 10 on maps that have no business of being 10 v 10. They continue to encourage camping clearly.

And yes I know I can remove the 10 verse 10 option but if I do that then I'll be playing like 5 maps.
 

RingRang

Alt account banned
Banned
Oct 2, 2019
2,442
Haven't played this game in a while and I see they made 10 v 10 on maps that have no business of being 10 v 10. They continue to encourage camping clearly.

And yes I know I can remove the 10 verse 10 option but if I do that then I'll be playing like 5 maps.
I actually don't mind the variety of the 10 v 10 matches on the medium sized maps. I actually think there is less camping when you've got more people on the maps.
 

broony

Member
Oct 27, 2017
644
Haven't played this game in a while and I see they made 10 v 10 on maps that have no business of being 10 v 10. They continue to encourage camping clearly.

And yes I know I can remove the 10 verse 10 option but if I do that then I'll be playing like 5 maps.
How do you think 10vs 10 encourages camping?
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,984
fuck the specialists, they went too far in BO4.BO3 they weren't too bad but screw specialist abilities in MP.

it's nice to know in MW I'm not going to be killed by some insta kill ability that wasn't earnt through doing anything

people have made the argument for specialists having passive team supporting abilities and I liked the sound of it. I find character based abilities a cool feature in shooters and want them to continue on with that if that's the direction they go. They just need to find a sweet spot with what the specialists can do because something like MW3 and how that had support streaks that never reset was too much cheese with how many spotting drones people always called in per game. Maybe use your characters passive once per game or something. If they can keep the same TTK/healing mechanics while retaining the actual feel of gunplay from MW2019 game, it'd probably be my fav CoD ever.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,984
Nice to know CoD still has the worst fan base ever. Just got into a lobby with the activision ID "FuckYouN****r". Not censored.

shouldn't be surprised tho, considering every other CoD had clan tags of NGGR but stuff like BOOB and POOP got blocked. Garbage ass community.
 

Freedonia

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,090
I thought specialists were fine in BLOPS 3, but they did go overboard in 4. I don't think they're fundamentally bad, the field upgrade system in MW isn't that different than specialists (if Specialists only had small support type abilities like Crash's ammo bag). I wouldn't be opposed to specialists in the next Treyarch title, so long as they at least went back in the direction they had them with 3.

On the topic of more 6v6 maps in 10v10, I only played 10v10 Rammaza once, but I thought it played better with more people. Better flow, and more action.

Also, I love the MK 2 - it's pretty much the Mare's Leg from BF4 but if it was a solid weapon. Great ads time, mobility, and solid one shot capability. Definitely my preferred weapon for the sniper/marksmen rifle challenges
 

Jake2byFour

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,842
So fucking sick and tired of games where my team never fills up but yet the opposing team always gets new players if someone leaves.
 

Jarrod38

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,760
This stupid has got me killed a couple of times by my own thermite because right when I throw it around a corner my teammate is playing fucking madden using the truck stick to push me and i just stick the wall in my face.
For me it wouldn't be so bad if at the start of the match it was disable. Running into your teammates can cost you those few seconds on map position.
 

Kadey

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
6,672
Southeastern PA
I seen so many complain about the game, offline and on and I'm baffled by it's success. People were probably fooled by the reviews. Gun play and everything is top notch but a few things just really really hold it back.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,984
I seen so many complain about the game, offline and on and I'm baffled by it's success. People were probably fooled by the reviews. Gun play and everything is top notch but a few things just really really hold it back.

It's the same thing every year. I'd imagine we have posters here that spoke too soon and probably hate this game after realizing how shit it can be. Gunfight was the only mode I can actively have fun in because everything I hate about the game is nowhere near as prevalent. Inconsistent sounds don't happen as often, no shitty spawns, and fucking symmetrical easy to understand maps. I'm not surprised by these Core maps considering these are the same guys that made Ghosts. Which is probably runner up for worst maps in CoD next to this.

Really curious how BR would be with this gunplay, at least.
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,706
It's the same thing every year. I'd imagine we have posters here that spoke too soon and probably hate this game after realizing how shit it can be. Gunfight was the only mode I can actively have fun in because everything I hate about the game is nowhere near as prevalent. Inconsistent sounds don't happen as often, no shitty spawns, and fucking symmetrical easy to understand maps. I'm not surprised by these maps considering these are the same guys that made Ghosts.

Really curious how BR would be with this gunplay, at least.

I'd be one of those people,

Said campaign was great -> forgotten in a few days, dull as absolute hell.
Said maps were really only issue with MP -> learn nope its fundamental issues from the ground up.
 

Salty AF

Member
Oct 30, 2017
6,161
It's the same thing every year. I'd imagine we have posters here that spoke too soon and probably hate this game after realizing how shit it can be. Gunfight was the only mode I can actively have fun in because everything I hate about the game is nowhere near as prevalent. Inconsistent sounds don't happen as often, no shitty spawns, and fucking symmetrical easy to understand maps. I'm not surprised by these Core maps considering these are the same guys that made Ghosts. Which is probably runner up for worst maps in CoD next to this.

Really curious how BR would be with this gunplay, at least.

I can tell after 30 minutes with the game that I don't like it....Only reason why I'm even bothering is that it was half off on the xbox store and I know I was going to want to try the Battle Royale when it drops because I loved Blackout so much. That being said - Blackout / Blops didn't have this shitty of TTK so the BR mode could honestly be just a waste unless they do something to tweak the TTK.

Edit: Just so I don't get flamed here - I've played it more than 30 minutes but I knew very quickly that it wasn't working for me.
 
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Salty AF

Member
Oct 30, 2017
6,161
The reason this COD has the worst camping out of any COD is because of the TTK....If you know you can win ANY fight as long as you shoot someone from the back or sideways - then why move in the game at all?

This is absolutely baffling to me that the same guys who made Titanfall quit Respawn to rejoin IW and made this game. In Titanfall they specifically wanted to fix the short TTK's in COD by giving you movement abilities that would help you survive being shot in the back. So they gave you double jumping and wall running to help make it just a tad bit harder to kill. In Modern Warfare it's the exact opposite. WTF were they thinking?
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,984
I'd be one of those people,

Said campaign was great -> forgotten in a few days, dull as absolute hell.
Said maps were really only issue with MP -> learn nope its fundamental issues from the ground up.

I immediately gauged that I would hate this from second beta. The first gunfight beta almost had me just because I was so surprised by how the guns felt, looked and sounded. Till I played the actual beta a few weeks later. I thought I was in the twilight zone with people saying Ground War is better than the BF series... But to each their own lol.
I can tell after 30 minutes with the game that I don't like it....Only reason why I'm even bothering is that it was half off on the xbox store and I know I was going to want to try the Battle Royale when it drops because I loved Blackout so much. That being said - Blackout / Blops didn't have this shitty of TTK so the BR mode could honestly be just a waste unless they do something to tweak the TTK.

I had to re bump the BO4 thread again after my comment itt. The TTK from that is seriously my fav this franchise has ever been. Reminds me of the Halo days with how just because they get the first shot off with a BR it doesn't necessarily mean the fight is over. Also am I going crazy or is the movement in MW more sluggish feeling compared to BO4? I'm not sure if it's from the "realistic" direction they're going for with the new engine, but simple things like strafing how I would in old games just feels like I'm moving through mud.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,984
The reason this COD has the worst camping out of any COD is because of the TTK....If you know you can win ANY fight as long as you shoot someone from the back or sideways - then why move in the game at all?

The maps too. Way too many sight lines and exposed areas. The game just promotes slow play. I've tried playing it like Siege and was bored to tears lol. But I can play and love Siege? Just felt unnatural rewiring my playstyle from how I always played CoD I figured why bother with anything that's not gunfight? Gunfight is a testament that the actual feel of guns is great, but to spend 60 bucks for one game mode with no BR date even announced? I'm good.
 

Salty AF

Member
Oct 30, 2017
6,161
I immediately gauged that I would hate this from second beta. The first gunfight beta almost had me just because I was so surprised by how the guns felt, looked and sounded. Till I played the actual beta a few weeks later. I thought I was in the twilight zone with people saying Ground War is better than the BF series... But to each their own lol.


I had to re bump the BO4 thread again after my comment itt. The TTK from that is seriously my fav this franchise has ever been. Reminds me of the Halo days with how just because they get the first shot off with a BR it doesn't necessarily mean the fight is over. Also am I going crazy or is the movement in MW more sluggish feeling compared to BO4? I'm not sure if it's from the "realistic" direction they're going for with the new engine, but simple things like strafing how I would in old games just feels like I'm moving through mud.

Yeah. In BO4 you can tell that they balanced the game's TTK around Blackout first and then transferred it over to MP. So the healing system, everything was tuned so that Blackout TTK and feel would be seamless with the MP side. This is what worries me about MW's BR mode when it drops...If the TTK is exactly the same as the MP in this game then it'll be a horrible experience.

Games like Halo, Apex and Destiny are always way more rewarding when you kill a player because it actually take some work and skill. COD has always been a twitch shooter and that's what helped make it so popular but it never felt this unforgiving.

If SBMM wasn't implemented in Apex I probably wouldn't have left that game but it ruined it for me. Maybe it's just going to take more time to really get used to this COD vs BO4 where it was instant (due to Blackout).