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BREXIT |OT| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Why would they suddenly start listening to what Europe have been repeatedly saying in giant letters?
Why do these damn news channels always break away when Ian Blackford speaks in the house. Its annoying!!?
This might finally be the point where the most likely outcome is one that virtually no-one wants as their preferred option (I.e. an ultra soft Brexit)
We've voted against no deal, but we don't want May's deal.
There'll be a vote on an extension tomorrow, but the EU has to accept that for it to pass, and they won't without something like another election or referendum happening.
However, there's not enough desire for either amongst MP's.
To be fair, and as someone that watches BBC Parliament precisely because I don't want to have reality interrupted by Andrew Neil, Blackford is largely irrelevant to what is going on here, as much as I agree with what he says and enjoy the way he says it.
He just saw his (?) beloved US trade deal go up in smoke. Motherfucker can cry all he wants for all I care.
- I cannot see May's deal passing no matter how often she tries, remainers have no incentive to vote for it anymore.
- Extension beyond the EUP elections are not gonna happen from an EU27 perspective.
- At the eleventh hour parliament will vote to revoke Article 50
- Either that passes and we all move on and live happily ever after,
- or we crash out without a deal.
Parliament can scream for an extension until their throat bleeds but the EU won't give it without good reason, and parliament don't think the EU's reasons are good enough.
Bloody mess.
David Mundell finally realises he might be pissing off his countrymen, even in the blue-as-fuck borders.
My parent's MP was one of the new Tories in Scotland in 2017. He must be nervous as fuck right now - he's been a sheepish supporter of May's deal.
My parent's MP was one of the new Tories in Scotland in 2017. He must be nervous as fuck right now - he's been a sheepish supporter of May's deal.
The motion is clearly meant to be a poison pill for the EU, so they say no (extension until June is like, the one specific scenario the EU have said would be the most problematic). No idea if that date will still be the date by the time they vote on it though, since it's open to amendment.
The play remains forcing a vote that is between the WA and no deal. Will it work? Tune in sometime in the next two and a bit weeks!
I've amended this (lol)
It's still what I see happening since no one has the balls to call the thing off let alone make reasonable grounds for asking for the extension.
It doesn't need the remainers to vote for her deal though, all it needs is for the ERG and the DUP to be spooked/legal unicorned by Cox into voting for the deal. It's entirely possible MV3 this time next week could pass.
Nope. Unless they can agree to it before the deadline and ratify it with the EU.
No Deal however can still happen no matter the fucking what.
it would be fucking hilarious to see this wording considering...
There's an alternative universe where she didn't pull out of the leadership contest and won.
The true darkest timeline.
It cannot pass without tory remainers, there are not enough opposition brexiters to counter that.
I will never understand why she withdrew. She is never getting that close to the office of PM again, and lets be honest she had a very realistic shot at beating May in a one on one contest.
Once it got the to the general membership, absolutely.
what was that thing brexiters kept saying about remainers wanting to keep rerunning the referendum until they get the answer they want...
WOW, they'd risk that?
Anyway, a smaller update from the Guardian's Dan Sabbagh: ministers who abstained will not be expected to resign.
You can basically hear the violent smashing on the keyboard from here...
Can't have two referenda but can have three votes about the same thing until,they get the result they want
So since it's a shitshow, and No Deal is path of least resistance...
Even with the ERG onside it might not be enough unless the DUP also fall in line.
There should never be a third 'meaningful' vote. May should resign first thing in the morning.
And even then the remainer tories need to stay in line, which they don't have that much incentive to do. (except party over country of course).
So today's results surely gives confidence to still vote down mv3 next week - a longer extension would need a good reason which means ref 3 or GE
Still can't believe they can put forwrd the same deal (literally the same, EU won't negotiate more) and it be accepted onto the floor after the biggest defeat for years and the 4th biggest defeat in years
Literally boggles the mind and that's after shit like,the whips turning on heir own bill today
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