These new consoles will sell out to the hardcore crowd no matter what. How sales hold up after the launch window is gonna be the interesting part.
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I'm confused. Wasn't the initial report by Bloomberg that Sony had upped production to 10 million units by the same time-frame? When did this change?
"Sony Corp. is roughly doubling its PlayStation 5 production to 10 million units this year as it sees the prolonged effects of the Covid-19 pandemic boosting demand for gaming, according to people familiar with its plans.
The electronics giant has informed assembly partners and suppliers it's radically increasing orders for its next-generation console, though logistics may yet pose a challenge to delivering all those machines on time for the holiday shopping season, the people said, asking to remain anonymous. Sony had previously aimed to produce 5 million to 6 million PS5 units by the end of March 2021."
"Sony Corp. is roughly doubling its PlayStation 5 production to 10 million units this year as it sees the prolonged effects of the Covid-19 pandemic boosting demand for gaming, according to people familiar with its plans.
The electronics giant has informed assembly partners and suppliers it's radically increasing orders for its next-generation console, though logistics may yet pose a challenge to delivering all those machines on time for the holiday shopping season, the people said, asking to remain anonymous. Sony had previously aimed to produce 5 million to 6 million PS5 units by the end of March 2021."
Actually it was. This doesn't really change that, as yield issues aren't abnormal for the launch of new systems.
Oh duh! I feel stupid lol Thanks guys.
Either it's 50% or the price is $449.
50% is horrendous for a console.
From my understanding defects. Someone can correct me if I am wrong. The SOC needs to hit a certain performance level and if they don't they are not usable.
I just don't see them undercutting them this time. There's absolutely zero need to. When ps4 launched, the exclusives were not as good as they are now. They have just a stable of great games and IP now. And, even if the intent is to undercut, MS would just match them. Phil has said they're going to remain agile on price. If they both match at 449, they both lose money they don't need to lose
What does that mean?
I can see people getting it just to sell it at a higher price. Especially in these times.
Bundy, I need one, I have to play Miles Morales. ;_;
10 million by end of year. 15 by End of March. Now it's 11 by end of March.
OP def buried the lede with the prices being mentioned in the article BTW. Bloomberg Japan is not some random outlet lol
Sony cited lockdowns as the reason for increased production
from Bloomberg's article (Google translate):
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The text in question:
" ソニーは、年内に発売する次世代ゲーム機「プレイステーション（ＰＳ）５」の今期（2021年３月期）の生産台数を400万台下方修正し、約1100万台と想定していることが明らかになった。"
This mentions Sony has cut production by 4 million and that 11 million is the new estimated number.
I'm pretty sure, these SoC have more CUs than the final spec. So they can disable some and use more parts. Like, PS5 has 36 CUs, the die has, I don't know, 40.
Likewise. What are NORMAL expected yields for a brand new SOC at console launch. These are clearly above expectations, but by how much?
It means for every one chip that passes validation, another fails and is disposed.
The lower the yield, the more it costs to produce.
Original production plan was 6m by end of 2020. They then raised it to 10m by end of 2020. This seems to not affect the consoles already being produced and intended to be sold by end of march. Strange.
New wave of FUD incoming.
That was regarding this calendar year. This new news is regarding this fiscal year.
Does yield issues mean that there might be units with those problems but somehow we're missed by quality control?
In the translated Bloomberg article, it does state that yields are improving past the initial 50%, but aren't stable yet.
The number of chips you get from a wafer .
The more you get the better the yields , it should be noted that nothing ever gets 100% .
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People saying this must affect Xbox too
remember how high they are clocking those GPUs so they could say it was 10tf 😂
remember how high they are clocking those GPUs so they could say it was 10tf 😂
Guess jimbo wasn't playing around when he said they want to transition players faster than ever before.
Enough CUs to be viable for what they want. So they need to be able to get 36. Out of 40 and they may be getting less at a higher frequency that first anticipated
the analyst says $399/449 is the cheapest case scenario, not actually saying that's what they expect the price to be based on any specific information
Yeah. Be sure to have your cart empty. Hot items don't usually get a buy now button option.
There was a rumour that AMD's CPUs were getting 70%+ yields early on for first gen 7nm, which was considered good considering it was a brand new node (this was in 2019). The yields would be higher now.
When Intel's first gen 10nm products had 10% yields that was abysmal and nowhere near good enough for mass production.
I strongly doubt anybody has full stats for this, it's usually confidential.
SoC go through rigorous validation before being marked as fit to be used in products. Usual flaws that end up occur some where else like design/manufacturing issue in the case of the 360 RROD.
The number of chips that can be used in the PS5. A 50% yield means they're basically "throwing away" half of what they're producing.
