The movie's out in a bunch of countries now, where the spoiler thread at? Going to see it in a few hours.
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Black Widow (2021) Review Thread | I can't believe this is where Mephisto shows up 84% Certified Fresh
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Stay spoiler free till then. The plot's decently fun and twisty. Enjoy!
edit: For all the Tasky fans, I liked Tasky.
I suppose if you want him as comic accurate as possible, you might be disappointed, but where it went worked for me.
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I would assume it will hit D+ at midnight pacific on Thursday night.
I'm gonna play a drinking game. Take a sip everytime she does that head-tilt tic that she does.
Like, I don't know where exactly it comes from, but I always fucking notice it lol. It's like whenever ScarJo has to read a line in these movies (or even just during a single shot where she doesn't speak) that she feels is missing something, she does this head tilt. Almost like a filler word like 'um' in a sentence.
Like, I don't know where exactly it comes from, but I always fucking notice it lol. It's like whenever ScarJo has to read a line in these movies (or even just during a single shot where she doesn't speak) that she feels is missing something, she does this head tilt. Almost like a filler word like 'um' in a sentence.
Advance ticket sales on Fandango outdid Spider-Man Homecoming.
deadline.com
$100 million OW, LFG!!!
‘Black Widow’ Advance Ticket Sales Are Fandango’s Best Of The Year To Date
As we told you over the weekend, Disney/Marvel’s Black Widow presales were set to outstrip that of Universal’s F9 at the same point in time before its opening weekend, and this morning Fandango has reported that the Cate Shortland-directed movie is their best pre-seller so far in 2021. Black...
deadline.com
$100 million OW, LFG!!!
I never realized that her comic book powerset is way more "Captain America" level due to a super soldier serum she was given and less "regular olympic athlete" level. I don't think keeping her powerset grounded as a regular person helped with how they've treated the character in the movies. She always felt like an odd "also ran" in the Avengers.
After the subpar tv shows (except maybe FATWS) I was pretty down on the MCU, but it just seems like they're just not really good at making tv shows.
This was a clear improvement and I'm now excited to see what's next.
This was a clear improvement and I'm now excited to see what's next.
gheh funny how that works, I found FATWS to be mediocre at best.
I liked it a lot, the fact that it didn't need to expand the lore and connect other movies made it more enjoyable.
For me, FATWS was the only subpar show. The others were/are excellent, with Loki easily my favorite. Still excited about Black Widow but not expecting anything wondrous.
It was in the thread title for ZSJL... seemed to be a new thing for that.
Maybe not fairness, but I do think putting both in the title would be a better direct reflection of the reviews.
RottenTomatoes score is a terrible way to gauge quality of a film. All it says is "this percentage of reviews gave it a 6 or higher".
Most people only work in binary though. It's either good or bad. That's why YouTube and Netflix switched from a star rating system to a thumbs up or down system.
It's the same with reviews. A lot of people only want to know if it's good (6+ stars) or bad (5 or below). Its simpler and a majority of people don't care about the nuance.
Once again, I might be missing something, but I'm trying to understand why it's ok to cast David Harbour as THE Russian Marvel character (I've even seen it strongly encouraged), along with with Florence Pugh as another Russian character in this day and age. And really on top of that, Scarlett Johansson herself, although with her I can at least understand she's established and obviously not going anywhere.
Doctor Strange is not defined by his ethnicity and that has always been a complete minimal variable in that regard really. He's just a white dude.
Alexi is.
Saw it. It wasn't good. The third act put me to sleep. Taskmaster is beyond disappointing. It's not even a shadow of TWS. The other villain is atrocious. The stakes and story were all over the place. The action was uninspired. Widow's character work… passable for someone dead. Pugh and Harbour do a great job with average material, they deserve better, Pugh needs to be around calling out Avengers on their dumb shit. We need a Red Guardian vs Cap flashback.
like I guess calling it a 6.5/10 movie is fair so it's "fresh" but damn. Not terrible but if the Cap movies are Oceans 11-13, this is Ocean's 8
really
like this is a troll or I'm drastically misreading this post
like I guess calling it a 6.5/10 movie is fair so it's "fresh" but damn. Not terrible but if the Cap movies are Oceans 11-13, this is Ocean's 8
Are you actually trying to go down a Russianface route
really
like this is a troll or I'm drastically misreading this post
I don't know what the hell you mean by Russianface, although I think I can get the picture. But I can assure you, I'm not a troll.
Check the average score if you want a more nuanced take. Metacritic's non transparent weighted reviews ain't exactly fair either.
Advance ticket sales on Fandango outdid Spider-Man Homecoming.
‘Black Widow’ Advance Ticket Sales Are Fandango’s Best Of The Year To Date
As we told you over the weekend, Disney/Marvel’s Black Widow presales were set to outstrip that of Universal’s F9 at the same point in time before its opening weekend, and this morning Fandango has reported that the Cate Shortland-directed movie is their best pre-seller so far in 2021. Black...
$100 million OW, LFG!!!
Kevin Feige out here with the fucking Midas touch.
The point of RottenTomatoes isn't to give an exact factual definition of the quality of a film. It's to give moviegoers a general idea of the quality of a film. If it's fresh, it's probably worth checking out. If it's 80 or above, it's definitely worth checking out.
Doesn't mean you'll like it yourself, of course, the site is very good for what it is meant for.
Okay well assuming you're not a troll, here's what you're missing: it's totally fine for white people to play other white ethnicities.
Also Russian identity really isn't all that important to this film, as weird as that sounds for a movie where almost everyone has a Russian accent. Nobody is really defined by their Russian-ness or is acting for Russia. The Widows are from all over the world. The villain is out for themselves. Red Guardian isn't really for anyone at this point, he doesn't love Mother Russia, he loves who he used to be.
The only offensive Russian thing is how generic and bland Ray Winstone is, joining Kenneth Branagh in Tenet as an extremely cringy villain with a terrible accent.
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Don't fucking assume that I'm a fucking asshole just because I'm white (which you didn't even know before this post) you piece of fucking trash. You should be banned for that shit.
I also love that everything you said doesn't even sound like you know shit but just acts like you know shit based on current inadequacies. Are you Russian? It sounds like you're not at all, but I'll certainly stand to be corrected if you are. Just sounds like you're another mad white kid thinking you're making a difference. If you can assume I'm white, I can sure as hell do the same back you pale brother.
Whether you want to believe it or not, white people can absolutely campaign for this change in voice actors, and actors as well. And as much as I might fucking hate to admit , those voices are still potentially the most powerful. Double standards can suck my fucking dick.
I read comics when I was a kid. A lot. And I don't like the idea of Alexi being cast as an American, especially when we're at a point where that shit is finally starting to be conquered at least a little. That's from me, a 31 year old American white dude. How do you think some Russian kids may feel that grew up seeing this American person featured in a film as their hero?
lmao okay cool so you are trolling
ps. if you want to keep someone invested in your troll baiting you gotta go a little bit more subtle
Nah I'm not a troll once again, but it's very clear that you don't have a real response. A troll's too good of a term for you. You're just...lazy.
I know I'm part of the problem but the placement of this gif was perfection and I'm still laughing a little
Black Widow |OT| Don't fucking assume that I'm a fucking asshole just because I'm white (which you didn't even know before this post) you piece of fucking TRASH
Hmmm first few reactions here are underwhelming.
Is the action any good at least? How close do the fight get to TWS/Civil War?
And is the humor still a problem?
Hmmm first few reactions here are underwhelming.
Is the action any good at least? How close do the fight get to TWS/Civil War?
And is the humor still a problem?
Action is pretty mediocre. There are some good beats but overall it feels very generic and like the pre-vis team just did it all. There's no personality or unique sense of style to the action. Also some really crappy CGI near the end. The close-quarters hand to hand stuff is cool but fleeting.
There are tonal issues. The humour is more subdued than in a lot of MCU movies but the quips felt pretty low-effort and not-very-funny. Like I blew air out my nose once every 10-15 minutes but I didn't actually laugh once.
Whole script felt like an early draft that needed a few more passes before getting the greenlight.
Hey, I wasn't the one using the word "fair", just that including a Metacritic (or perhaps even the average score on RottenTomatoes) gives a much better view of what the reception is than only the RT score which only tells you that 85% of the critics thought it was somewhere between "not bad, fairly enjoyable and masterpiece".
In general I think all review aggregators are kinda trash, since almost every reviewer uses completely different a different scale and can't really be easily translated to a x/10 score.
Bummer
I believe it was Lucrecia Martel that slipped the beans about this being being a film "Written and Directed by Marvel Studios", and the director is only there to keep the actors in line
Lucrecia Martel Turned Down ‘Black Widow’ After Marvel Told Her ‘Don’t Worry About’ Action Scenes
"Companies are interested in female filmmakers but they still think action scenes are for male directors," said the "Zama" director.
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I enjoyed this movie more than expected. I might try and write up a bit more later but on the whole I was surprised how much I enjoyed (despite it having many flaws).
I'm worried about it not getting a day-and-date in China, that's going to hurt the worldwide take if the pirates get a hold of it.
Hopefully I'm worried for nothing here.
I liked it a fair bit, it felt like a Metal Gear movie almost, there's some tongue in cheek cheese going on which I was into. It's not anything incredible, but it's solid - the only bit that I was eh on was the skydiving stuff that you see a hint at in the trailer.
Solid 7.5 from where I was sitting.
The fights were discount TWS/CW. A lot more jumpy editing, felt like less practical combat and there were some interesting ideas for set pieces but mostly poor execution. Nothing stood out as particularly impressive/memorable. Taskmaster has a bunch of references to previous Marvel movies but they all just seem like weak knockoffs.
The humor is lowkey in this one, which I'm fine with. It's mostly from Pugh and Harbour. And honestly it would've been weird if the movie was a quipfest, it's not the style or subject for non stop jokes. There's a dark period joke I'm impressed Marvel let fly.
Bummer
I believe it was Lucrecia Martel that slipped the beans about this being being a film "Written and Directed by Marvel Studios", and the director is only there to keep the actors in line
Lucrecia Martel Turned Down ‘Black Widow’ After Marvel Told Her ‘Don’t Worry About’ Action Scenes
"Companies are interested in female filmmakers but they still think action scenes are for male directors," said the "Zama" director.
wow its so patronizing to bring on a great director and tell them not to worry about the action scenes. did they even see Zama???