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Bernie Sanders is the best candidate internationally (BadEmpanada)
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Well, they cannot call him an antisemite because he's Jewish.
As for Corbyn, he was a horrible candidate, because he didn't take a position in the only issue (Brexit) that mattered in that election.
That's probably a fair. I haven't seen the polls (or are you referring to recent polls? Because I would argue that doesn't factor against my joke) I don't remember them being up back during/post the previous elections (era came after). But I just remember around last election (GAF) and after with discussion about the DNC and issues with supression of Bernie etc. A lot of threads were pretty dominant of how Bernie felt like he was being forced upon democrats by Bernie Bros and such through projection/signaling. Then also Bernie supporters not exactly being treated too well on the whole. But that's just what I remember anecdotally.
But I'll digress, it was an off color joke and I wasn't wholly serious about it. Just a jab.
Well that's kind of a given because the average person doesn't seem to understand that the presidency isn't some magic wand position. Candidates can promise all they want, but you still have to push your dream legislation through the shit hole that is the US congress and deal with the realities of politics. Hope and change aren't shit if you're going to leave the other third of the government the same.
No, fuck Bernie.
He is a less effective Jeremy Corbin. Most of the Dems Party hates him.
This. Unless it's Israel camp of the middle east, they seem comfortable with things as they are under Trump.
Yes, but people think of compromise to push through something that resembles your idyllic vision as being spineless, when the alternative, especially in America's rigid two party system, a lot of times is just to change absolutely nothing at all. It doesn't mean you shouldn't fight tooth and nail for what you believe in, or that you should concede at the earliest opportunity, but you can't be an island as President.
I feel like a Bernie presidency would either be somewhat efficient and terribly disappointing to his base, or there'll be endless infighting where he maintains integrity and blames the lack of anything being accomplished on Republicans and his base remains happy. It's really hard to be a revolutionary from within the system.
Bernie says it like it is but he's the complete opposite of Drumpf. He wants to change and fix so many America broken systems and some very ambitious plans about the future. No other candidate does that in a similiar fashion. Also Bernie's records are extremely impressive and is giving him extra credibility about himself. From all the candidates he's the best without a doubt. But how things work in the US (a system where a Hillary Clinton lost despite having 2.87 million because of a completely unfair, broken and outdated voting system) I see another trainwreck coming because states where votes count more than others gonna vote Donald again while more populate, educated places will vote more diverse than ever.
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There was a poll where everyone selected their favorite candidate and Bernie won overwhelmingly. It's you who has selective memory.
When? I guess so, because I'm not remembering this during that time.
It's probably easiest if you just link it.
Yes, please vote for Bernie. Or Warren, that would also be ok. The most important thing is that the democrats then restore democracy in the US. Make voting possible for everybody. Reverse all the stupid gerrymandering the GOP did over the last decades. Hell, get rid of the damn electoral college.
If they're not able to do that and republicans will have the presidency in another 4 or 8 years it's the final nail in the coffin and I'll lose all hope in the US.
If they're not able to do that and republicans will have the presidency in another 4 or 8 years it's the final nail in the coffin and I'll lose all hope in the US.
I regardless of who's nominated the majority of the world will not see the difference. The US's foreign policy is more complicated than just who the president is. You have to deal with the military industrial complex, the GOP, and the intelligence agencies all pushing for more aggression. Sanders would probably be better than the others, but I think people will be disappointed when it's mostly business as usual were he to win.
Is this you trying to imply that Bernie's socialism is going to turn the US into Venezuela?
What are the Bernie people's beef with Warren?
That was my interpretation, and as such it deserves no response
That was my interpretation, and as such it deserves no response
Not really. During the last midterms he was on the first page of their website.
While a lot of the initial public response (including here at Era) fell for the headlines and wondered if Trump's "peace" proposal was doing something positive or good, Warren called it out for what it was within minutes of its release: a sham and a move for annexation.
User warned: Inflammatory generalizations over a series of posts
Bullshit.
Am Dutch, and do understand policy versus 'yelling dreams at clouds'.
Elizabeth Warren had the most extensive answer on the military presence in the middle east, Bernie is basically just left Quackery made into male form. He'd be a great VP or someone to position on Housing or Education, but he needs to stay the hell away from the actual presidency.
The only people who want Sanders to be president are either fools dreaming of 'free money' and Russians mobsters. Because Trump WILL beat him, easily. You guys seem to think 'Jewish man' versus 'Literally Hitler' is going to work? He's going to slaughter the man! He already had a hearth attack ffs, that's just easy prey for a predator like Trump. It. Will. Never. Work. And we'll all be stuck with four more years or god knows how many of GOP dictatorship.
"best for the international community", my ass.
If it takes Biden to get the USA back on track to anything normal, I will happily see President Biden until AOC can take over in 2024. But no more of this Republican bullshit just because the American voter is an idiot. This election isn't a wishlist, it's an ultimatum. Either you end this wannabe-dictatorship here and now, or there won't be a second chance.
Am Dutch, and do understand policy versus 'yelling dreams at clouds'.
Elizabeth Warren had the most extensive answer on the military presence in the middle east, Bernie is basically just left Quackery made into male form. He'd be a great VP or someone to position on Housing or Education, but he needs to stay the hell away from the actual presidency.
The only people who want Sanders to be president are either fools dreaming of 'free money' and Russians mobsters. Because Trump WILL beat him, easily. You guys seem to think 'Jewish man' versus 'Literally Hitler' is going to work? He's going to slaughter the man! He already had a hearth attack ffs, that's just easy prey for a predator like Trump. It. Will. Never. Work. And we'll all be stuck with four more years or god knows how many of GOP dictatorship.
"best for the international community", my ass.
If it takes Biden to get the USA back on track to anything normal, I will happily see President Biden until AOC can take over in 2024. But no more of this Republican bullshit just because the American voter is an idiot. This election isn't a wishlist, it's an ultimatum. Either you end this wannabe-dictatorship here and now, or there won't be a second chance.
South American here.
Bernie seems the only candidate that actually sounds different and adressing the core problems of society in regards to his home policies. As for international, the fact that he's the only one tackling the difficult topic of Israel shows a lot. A LOT.
As a Chilean more specific, his policies make me feel more safe thinking that we can change core problems in our country and not being sanctioned to hell by the US.
I still have my grain of salt though. I hope he doesn't end bombing the middle east like every single US President since decades
Bernie seems the only candidate that actually sounds different and adressing the core problems of society in regards to his home policies. As for international, the fact that he's the only one tackling the difficult topic of Israel shows a lot. A LOT.
As a Chilean more specific, his policies make me feel more safe thinking that we can change core problems in our country and not being sanctioned to hell by the US.
I still have my grain of salt though. I hope he doesn't end bombing the middle east like every single US President since decades
Quite easily.
Some of his notions about trade are outdated but when it comes to conflict he shits on the rest of the Democratic party at huge heights.
Some of his notions about trade are outdated but when it comes to conflict he shits on the rest of the Democratic party at huge heights.
Wow ok I'm impressed. I guess when you're that rich you don't care about doing what the special interests groups desire.
Elizabeth Warren, rich... That's a new one
Also, every gop president is rich, and they love caving to special interests. Not sure what wealth has to do with it
Are you talking about Mike Bloomberg and the fact that he almost-praised Trump's "peace" scam?
Swede here. Yes, you'd be an idiot to not vote for Bernie. I don't expect him to ger nominated though, the average american is still so goddamn scared of any policy that might not fuck them up their own ass.
International politics if anything here is what interests me the most his domestic policies wont affect me, and maybe, just maybe, 4 years of bernie would lead to less of their international interventions and many other international politics, ergo: making the world a worse place for essentially everyone.
International politics if anything here is what interests me the most his domestic policies wont affect me, and maybe, just maybe, 4 years of bernie would lead to less of their international interventions and many other international politics, ergo: making the world a worse place for essentially everyone.
Having an ineffective leader that can't get shit done? Yeah.
Ever heard of Carter? His presidency lead to Reagan. Imagine what kind of Republican president Bernie will lead to.
idk. I lack information about their policies and I'm very misinformed about the country social context.
Considering the us political system, I would go for the shitty tactical voting that the system seems to favor and vote for the candidate that has a bigger chance to win against trump, whoever that is.
Considering the us political system, I would go for the shitty tactical voting that the system seems to favor and vote for the candidate that has a bigger chance to win against trump, whoever that is.
there is a fucking Neo nazi as a president right now.
spare us this pathetic fear mongering.
And Obama lead to Trump, so what kind of republican is Biden going to lead to?
Given that the UK seems to be mini-America on a time delay of a few years, and that I believe Sanders would kill off any idea of a Tory wet dream US trade deal and push us back towards Europe - yes, I'd rather hope he does get the vote. But I can't say I'm hopeful, the world is on a fast downward spiral.
Yes but knowing the US, we're told that the US is in debt and we can't afford basic shit like healthcare, housing and education.
And we have to spend it all on military to protect our freedom from countries across two big oceans.
And we have to spend it all on military to protect our freedom from countries across two big oceans.
Shhh! The average American voter hates the opinions of the rest of the world. Bernie's numbers are going to drop now.
Goddamn is this the most disingenuous, terrible argument I've seen on here in a while, well done.
we need to stop worrying so much about how some people might think about politicians and just support those who have the best policies.