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Avengers: Endgame |Spoiler OT| Let's go get this son of a bitch
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Why did alternate reality Nebula get killed by one shot? She survived a rocket launcher in Guardians 1. Thought it was convenient how many of the Avengers survived the bombardment at the Avengers HQ.
Film was great overall, a few suprises like Fat Thor and clever Hulk :D and Thanos simply getting his head cut off at the beginning. Also was a nice suprise to see Jarvis from the TV series, wasn't expecting so much closure to the Agent Carter TV series.
Film was great overall, a few suprises like Fat Thor and clever Hulk :D and Thanos simply getting his head cut off at the beginning. Also was a nice suprise to see Jarvis from the TV series, wasn't expecting so much closure to the Agent Carter TV series.
So what we are back to is, that returning the stones is so that the alternate timelines won't be doomed?
I've seen this thread go back and forth between those two theories like crazy all day lol.
PS: I've never seen any of the mentioned films in the movie. Never seen Die Hard or Back to the Future. I've seen Terminator 1 though.
People are trying to apply the rules of time travel from various other movies despite them giving a sizeable list of movies and saying it doesn't work like any of them.
There is nothing in this movie that suggests genuine branches to the timeline are created by anything except removing the Infinity Stones.
At most I could buy that substantial differences like Thanos's untimely death create their own branch. (I don't think it's really implied or necessary for there to be a whole separate ongoing universe without Thanos in it, but I could buy it.)
But the idea that every single visit to the past creates an alternate timeline is definitely not stated and goes way beyond the reach of what the movie is implying when the rules are explained.
I liked Nat's:
"I get emails from a racoon."
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"Of course he's a racoon, he eats garbage."
You mean Nebula? I'm assuming future Nebula would know her own weak points and how to kill herself better than anyone.
Game of Thrones didn't invent incest. It's very trendy right now, going by pornhub search metrics.
Yes, Infinity War, sorry typo.
As for Ragnarok, Hela showed that the Gauntlet in there was fake. Loki could have been doing a double take since he knew he had it. It didn't show him taking it.
Didn't the Asgardians chasing Rocket call him a rabbit as well, or did I mishear?
Yeah, Paul Rudd really flexed his range there IMO. He was awesome throughout the whole movie, but that was just a really raw emotional moment that's different from what he's usually tasked with and he nailed it.
Or...Fury just never introduced himself to Peter in the funeral. Feige and everyone involved have said multiple times FFH is after this film.
Ok just got out of my second showing.
Still not sure how Cap going back in time didn't at the very least create a new timeline. Also unclear on if he traveled back to the "present" on his own, or if he just lived his life until that point. The latter shouldn't work under the rules established by the movie. If it's the former, that means he either left Peggy before she died, or at one point there were two Caps alive for several years. And definitely in a splintered timeline.
Still not sure how Cap going back in time didn't at the very least create a new timeline. Also unclear on if he traveled back to the "present" on his own, or if he just lived his life until that point. The latter shouldn't work under the rules established by the movie. If it's the former, that means he either left Peggy before she died, or at one point there were two Caps alive for several years. And definitely in a splintered timeline.
Thats the sort of writing I can't stand. When it's convenient for a character to die they just let it happen regardless of how it happens.
Returning Mjolnir suggested to me that any changes that weren't self-correcting would cause a branch.
Nebula was killing herself. She would know where to shoot to put herself down.
But he didn't.
That Loki that escaped is another Loki entirely.
Just like how Nebula could kill the 2014 Nebula and she still exists fine.
I don't buy it for a second when Ant man takes a ballistic missle to the face. It's contrived writing.
Nah, the Loki that escaped with the Space Stone is from an alternate timeline.
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That hit me harder than the later, bigger moments because their bond in both Ant-man movies is so believable. Which is why I love Ant-man being an integral part of the movie
I left the cinema thinking he lived in the present timeline until the present day, because he appears sitting on the bench in civilian clothes. That seems like a simple visual signifier that he didn't appear the same way he just disappeared.
If I think too much about this shit I get irritated though. Hate time travel!!!
Ant-Man shrunk himself down to absorb that impact, which tracks with the logic of his powers.
Just, you know, follow along
Yeah-as a dad I was sitting there right next to my daughter watching and it hit me hard. Imagine losing those years and not seeing you child grew up-and she thought you were dead the entire time.
This timeline conversation will go on here like water circling down a toilet bowl.
Good luck, soldiers.
Good luck, soldiers.
fuck that loser. I'd slap another taco out of his hand for being wack af.
He clearly didn't shrink immediately. It's always funny to me when people like you can't understand when people like me don't enjoy the thing you did and you immediately jump to insults in order to protect your own thought process. We all have different opinions on how particular events play out and if they were written well or not.
I was referring more to a video game character reference that worked so well.
Its the most emotional scene of the movie, Paul Rudd is way too under rated.
There is no doubt in my mind something got fucked and they will have to answer for it. I'm not clear what can come of Loki disappearing with the Tesseract or maybe it's something else OR maybe it's an entity that has been alerted to all of this time manipulation and disrupting the natural order. Who the hell knows but I do think something bad will happen because of what they did.
Maybe everything is fine from this film but maybe Ant-Man and his people keep messing around with the quantum realm and something comes of that.
I'm not insulting you. And you're being kind of weirdly aggressive tbh.
I'm just saying that there are pretty easy explanations to what you are saying and you're dismissing them pretty half-heartedly. It's fine if you don't like something, but saying it doesn't make sense when they establish the logic ahead of time for it to make sense is not "not enjoying the thing", it's just misunderstanding it.
Loki escaping will he explained, I assume. Snapped Thanos is apart of the current timeline now. Basically, in our timeline, Thanos dies twice.
Oh man I forgot about the taco scene, I died laughing
If movies really follow the ways of the comics, we'll get a retcon how a trained rat was sent in by [insert character here]
They definitely spun some whack timelines out of thier shenanigans, even if they aren't doomed. Like the timeline knocked out Quill is in suddenly no longer has Thanos, his army, Gamorra, or Nebula.
The best is how desperate Scott gets hoping Cassie isn't in the list. One of the best Marvel characters and makes me happy how well integrated him and his characters are in the universe as someone who always liked Ant-Man a lot.
Quoting this so I can easily find it. Going back to this you posted, to try and understand it.
So when the Avengers went back to 2012, that already created a branching timeline, and so they steal the infinity stones off that alternate timeline?
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