Forget about Joe.
Generic Dem will win. Pretty much anyone who wins the Primary will win the election.
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An Awkward Kiss Changed How I Saw Joe Biden - The #metoo moment we've all seen coming
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Generic Dem will win. Pretty much anyone who wins the Primary will win the election.
To be honest that is the first time I heard about this candidate. I had to look up who he was.
Trump is a straight, "rich", old white dude. He can get away with shit in this country as far as most Republicans and many centrists are concerned.
Pete's sexuality will unfairly sink him for a lot of bigoted assholes. He won't have any chance with them no matter what he does. It's an uphill battle and it's horseshit that it even is one in the first place.
I'd push for him but I do worry about his chances because this country is shitty as fuck on how it views the capabilities of LGBT people.
That's kinda the thing with Biden. He's not the perfect candidate at all, buuuut if you're talking Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin as the key states the Dems must have to beat Trump ... he's probably the strongest candidate they have in those three states. Unfortunately the electoral college has to be taken into account, not just the overall vote. I'm sure in a popular vote, Biden, Bernie, and probably even Beto and maybe Harris could beat Trump, but that's not how elections are won.
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It's weird that he acts this way in public but nobody has come forward to accuse him of doing gross shit in private. Maybe he gets off on doing it in plain sight.
Great we welcome trump in 2020, as like somehow, Biden winning the primaries wouldve stopped trump considering this mess wouldve came out anyway.
Dudes a deadweight with one of the worst democratic voting records out of all the candidates, and it's better to sink him now until it was too late.
Dudes a deadweight with one of the worst democratic voting records out of all the candidates, and it's better to sink him now until it was too late.
That's not how it work. Genric "whatever" almost always polls better than the incumbent.
I mean. I'm not supporting the notion of Biden because he'd be the best for the electoral college. But "won the states we needed to"?
We won districts, not states.
I think the doom and gloom is silly but your reply doesn't make sense.
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Or maybe he's just too handsy. Doesn't have to mean he's a sexual predator.
Imagine an ad with snippets of all of these videos running constantly on national TV. Biden isn't winning any elections. There's plenty of other great Dem candidates that can beat Trump.
I think things are bound to swing back rather sharply after Trump, but not yet enough to elect a gay man.
I learned two things.
1. Biden is a fucking creep. I wish I had known more about this long ago but he shouldn't be anywhere children or in a position of power.
2. RAM (guy from tweet thread) seemed like he was doing a good thing for the right reason. While I'm glad he organized all of these instances together to put a spotlight on disgusting behavior, he's also denying Trump's track record with women and defending Gavin McInnes. Fuck this dude.
1. Biden is a fucking creep. I wish I had known more about this long ago but he shouldn't be anywhere children or in a position of power.
2. RAM (guy from tweet thread) seemed like he was doing a good thing for the right reason. While I'm glad he organized all of these instances together to put a spotlight on disgusting behavior, he's also denying Trump's track record with women and defending Gavin McInnes. Fuck this dude.
He's from Turning Point USA.
A far-right wing group. Not at all surprised he would attack Democrats for Biden's creepiness but deny that shit within his own party. He's even trying to @ Donald on Twitter to get this trending more.
Basically what Psychoward said:
MI, WI and whatnot.
I mean. I'm not supporting the notion of Biden because he'd be the best for the electoral college. But "won the states we needed to"?
Statewide we won. They ran up the GOP vote in Red states. Florida is the only real shocker.
His behavior has always been really disgusting, and it always surprised me not just how blatant it was, but how unchallenged it went. Extremely uncomfortable to watch. Being "handsy" is not an excuse.
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That's the conclusion that me and my wife came to. I think the outrage over this is over the top.
His response to it should be to apologize. If someone is uncomfortable by you being handsy it is still wrong. He goes the line because he doesnt grab them in places people immediately think is creepy but unwanted touching is never ok no matter what and it shouldnt be on women to have to tell men this.
That's just 'cause the established old guard of "the status quo is wonderful" Dems haven't seen fit to coalesce behind another candidate yet
My hope is that this sinks Diamond Joe so the someone else they move to in opposition to the Sanders extremists is... someone else.
From the accuser. This is "outrage" to you?
He should definitely apologize. He is a overly touchy guy but the sexual predator stuff is pushing it. People will just spam the cringey gifs though and that's all that will matter during the primary.
The defence of 'being handsy' is fucking disgusting and those of you using it to justify someone committing sexual assault and being an obvious perv to women and children should be ashamed of yourselves.
How can you be this dishonest. It's getting old. Cut it out.
I'll just quote Dream
Ignored? Jesus christ you're being pathetic. We've gone over this before.
Bernie did not ignore things. He literally did not know these things because he didn't have a structure that would bring this to his attention or solve the problem. That was Bernie's fault. There's a difference between structuring your entire work environment (campaign) to stamping this kind of behavior out and Bernie simply hearing and ignoring the issue. Bernie admitted his fault and changed the way the structure of his campaign work environment works. Each employee has a mandatory sexual assault course, and there is now an independent entity that any employee can report to so that women are comfortable speaking up and getting those people in more powerful positions, or peers punished.
Get a freaking grip. It's upsetting that you're purposely lying about it to sway voters, but I guess this type of crap isn't beneath you.
I mean. I'm not supporting the notion of Biden because he'd be the best for the electoral college. But "won the states we needed to"?
Dems won statewide races for governor in both Wisconsin and Michigan. So yes, we did win those states in 2018. Doesn't mean there isn't still work to be done (both states had particularly bad Republican governors), but if the statewide races in 2018 are predictive of 2020, we'll win enough states to get the presidency.
I feel vindicated, power to the women that have lived through this awful shit.
Bye, Biden. I will literally take any other dem over you, fuck off to obscurity and never return.
Bye, Biden. I will literally take any other dem over you, fuck off to obscurity and never return.
Turning Point USA is what I point to when people tell me, "No, we [as in conservatives] only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants." It's been clear for a long time that immigration in general was the end goal.
It was beneath his notice, that's ignoring them. It was Bernie's fault, but you don't seem that concerned about blaming him for fucking up here. This didn't happen in the 90's (which would still be terrible) it occurred in 2016.
That is not ignoring it. Ignoring it would mean he was notified of the behavior and did nothing. That is not what happened is my understanding. He didn't know of it so couldn't have personally done anything.
His fault was not having a proper structure in place to solve these issues by punishing the individual, or a structure that would bring this up to him so that he could personally solve the issue. That was his fault, which I'm not denying. That's different from the implication that "ignoring" brings.
How is that any better? He's not bothered looking for himself and no-one's rushing to tell him what's going on, either. That's a massive communication break down.
It was barely a concern when it came to structuring his campaign, that's how much a priority it was for him. His excuse was because he was "too busy" to think about it, which is bullshit.
Exactly. It's a structural problem with his campaign. His excuse wasn't that he was too busy in that he was notified, but scoffed at it as he was busy, it's that his campaign grew too fast. The too busy portion was a clip that cut off what came before it.
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I don't have a problem with people criticizing him for that structural problem, but to practically equate it to what Biden did is dishonest.
Interestingly, if Biden doesnt run then that gives Sanders a significant boost. I really wonder what would happen then.
It'd divide the not-Bernie vote even further. Originally, I was expecting it to come down to Bernie vs Biden with Kamala/Beto taking votes from Biden, hopefully giving Bernie the edge. But if Biden doesn't run then Beto and Kamala cannibalize each other.
Joe certainly has some creepy moments, but Trump is on tape literally talking about sexually assaulting women. The bar has been lowered so far that it probably isn't even going to be a factor.
Also for what it's worth, Joe won't put on the kid gloves with Trump. If it ever got brought up he'd straight snatch him for Stormy.
Also for what it's worth, Joe won't put on the kid gloves with Trump. If it ever got brought up he'd straight snatch him for Stormy.
There's a massive difference between
a) knowing about an issue which can be fixed, but for whatever reason deciding to not fix it.
b) not being aware of an issue which can be fixed, and therefore not able to fix it.
The first one is dramatically worse than the second because it shows there's a decision made to not correct a problem. To fix the first issue, one has to believe that the candidate has changed their pattern of behavior. To fix the second issue, one has to believe that the candidate has fixed a systemic issue.
It's harder to believe someone has changed their pattern of behavior(see Biden's groping, or Tulsi Gabbard's anti LGBT past.)
