Nations exist in one of two states:
1. Have nukes or have formal treaties with nuclear powers protecting them
2. Everyone else
Ukraine fell into category 2.
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Nations exist in one of two states:
1. Have nukes or have formal treaties with nuclear powers protecting them
2. Everyone else
Ukraine fell into category 2.
Russia is a nuclear state so if west retaliates then its a full on nuke war
It will definitely be expensive in the west as well. Not just because of gas prices, but all the thousands of companies that has Russia as a main market. But that is the price we will have to pay, we can't let dictators invade other sovereign nations and our allies and just give them a slap on the wrist.
Allowing Putin to do this without the strongest consequences will upset the world balance in a mayor way and probably lead to more war and broken alliances down the line.
Agreed. Hell, USSTRATCOM has General Officers aboard airborne command and control assets 24/7 (the ABNCP program, or LOOKING GLASS, flying E-6Bs). That's standard procedure.
Likely high number of civilian casualties as well. Putin doesn't give a fuck all about collateral damage
Several Russians as well I assume. Russian Blood on Putin's hands for his ego trip
Whatever sanctions the US imposes on Russia need to be imposed on Belarus as well. They are co-opting this strike
The dude been murdering others to remain in power for twenty years.
It's not smart NOW sure, but do you really think Ukraine will be Putin's only stop? Who's to say he won't try?
It's not a dumb question. Putin will turn this conflict in a nuclear showdown if the rest of the world interfered.
Nuclear war would send humans to the brink of extinction. It's not worth it.
There were some videos of outgoing MLRS from Kharkiv (as they took incoming) so a good chance there are Russian casualties as well.
i think there will be- the puppet leader of Belarus has probably just completely fucked his countries economy to please Putin
I legitimately don't know what to say.
I said multiple times in this thread that I did not expect it to go much further Beyond eastern Ukraine at the most extreme but I never dreamed that Belarus would join in on the madness. It's just a level of escalation that I wasn't expecting despite the obvious I guess.
I am not a very religious person but as soon as I post this I am going to take a few minutes and pray to anybody that happens to be listening for the people of Ukraine.
Immense fog of war going on right now so really hard to know what the hell is exactly happening.
Just adding on it's fucking dumb if you want to stand up what you believe in, but with politics it is what it is unfortunately.
I would hope and assume Ukraine is receiving the very best in back-channel aid via the west, both in terms of supply and coordination with western intelligence.
I 1000 percent trust Ukraine reports than anything coming out of Russia that's for sure.
It is much closer to his actual beliefs than the bizarre argument that he doesn't want NATO on his doorstep, therefore he's going to invade Ukraine and put NATO on his doorstep. He is also obviously emboldening NATO countries when there had been talk in recent years of NATO being an unnecessary relic of the past, which, of course was silly, but no one is thinking that today.
Putin has always used the "threat of NATO" as an excuse for his own aggression. The fact that NATO did not step in to stop what he's doing in Ukraine is proof that he's full of shit.
Who gives a fuck? Wishing somebody that's going to kill people by the thousands if not millions to die, doesn't make a person bad. Especially by the act of wishing upon it.
Fuck you Putin.
Fuck Putin and fuck everyone who supports that vile piece of shit.
Stay safe Ukraine. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Stay safe Ukraine. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
This is really the EU's time to shine as an economic power bloc. They can deal Russia a devastating blow.
Putin all but threatened nuclear war if anyone tried to intervene. No one's risking that.
Just want to add that besides sanctions, I guarantee the West is going to be sending weapons in via Polish and Romania border for quite some time. We did it in Afghanistan, and Russia did it to the US in several of their wars. There just won't be a direct engagement.
Hell in Vietnam and Korea, Russian soldiers were actually active in some roles. Did the wars escalate beyond them? No.
Hell in Vietnam and Korea, Russian soldiers were actually active in some roles. Did the wars escalate beyond them? No.
We condemn in the strongest possible terms Russia's unprecedented military aggression against Ukraine. By its unprovoked and unjustified military actions, Russia is grossly violating international law and undermining European and global security and stability.
We call on Russia to immediately cease the hostilities, withdraw its military from Ukraine and fully respect Ukraine's territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence. Such use of force and coercion has no place in the 21st century.
President Michel of the European Council has urgently convened an extraordinary meeting of the European Council. The EU leaders will meet later today to discuss the crisis and further restrictive measures that will impose massive and severe consequences on Russia for its action, in close coordination with our transatlantic partners. President von der Leyen will outline a further sanctions package being finalised by the European Commission and which the Council will swiftly adopt.
We deplore the loss of life and humanitarian suffering. The EU and its Member States are ready to urgently provide humanitarian emergency response We call on Russia and Russia-backed armed formations to respect international humanitarian law.
The EU stands firmly by Ukraine and its people as they face this unparalleled crisis. The EU will provide further political, financial and humanitarian assistance.
We are coordinating our response with our international partners, including NATO and G7 whose leaders will meet today.
For a dictator like Putin? Nah you're not a bad person at all.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".
It is in the Black Sea now watching the Russian fleet most likely. You can watch it fly big oval donuts right now if you like!
There is supposedly a NATO drone up too but I forget its call sign.
I fully agree but you still got the people here that will give you a finger wag for it.
But fuck them also.
As a German let me say this:
Justifying genocide of Ukrainians just because SOME of their great grand parents sided with the Nazis is fucking disgusting. You should be absolutely ashamed to write something this tasteless and inhumane in this thread.
You should be banned permanently.
NATO has spent the last seventy years wargaming against hypothetical Russian movement. Ukraine can probably hold on for quite some time if they avoid envelopment.