Wait, so are you down for abolishing private property if it was possible without a coup? Or are you pro-private property? You haven't made it clear what your actual disagreement with OP's values are.
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A warm celebration of America's flag.
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I was born a citizen of both countries, not that anyone has to defend citizenship of a country
Well many of us were pretty much brained washed as children by the education system, having to pledge our allegiance daily to a piece of cloth. To be fair.
User threadbanned: derailing with off-topic commentary over a series of posts
Pretty clearly communism is not (communist regimes in actuality have varied from being anti-nationalist to pretty much nationalist themselves), but the OP and a large amount of the posters in here are communists and it just confused me what their actual strategy is. Like, what is sphagnum plan to eliminate private ownership of capital without a military coup? And if the idea is a military coup... You probably want to be more nationalist than this.
Question: How many flags did Marx burn during his lifetime?
I was being sarcastic and I'm not a communist, but what does this have to do with the topic of this thread?
I would follow the Prophet Joseph Smith's divinely revealed plan for the United Order of Enoch in accordance with the Law of Consecration, duh.
This is anti-nationalist signalling (which I don't really have feelings on either way) from an OP and other posters that want to overthrow the US government.
And it just confuses me as you need a military coup to overthrow the US government. This topic represents a broader trend of people whose philosophies are only achievable with a military coup attacking the US military (with fascists doing it a lot currently)
See, this is why you're so lame to argue with. You want to state nothing about what you actually believe should happen politically/militarily so no one on here hates you.
My father lived several years under a US-backed dictatorship in Argentina that covertly murdered thousands of people.
The same nation later suffered a horrific economic collapse after US markets pressured it to make concessions for US investors, only to get completely fucked when those investments moved to Brazil.
I can't speak for my dad. He moved to the United States decades ago and loves the country and is happy that me and my siblings got to live most of our lives here. But I can say that maybe, just maybe, you can fuck off if you're going to make these kinds of posts.
Every page is a whole new adventure. Can't wait to see what the next one brings.
One can identify as, say a Communist, but at the same time not have a plan to make America Communist...
I mean, I doubt many of them on era if any of them expect to see America as, say, Socialist, in their life time. They just really don't agree with Capitalism and wish things were different, mostly.
Like it really seems like you are trying hard for a "gotcha" here but there isn't any contradiction except in your mind. Worse is that you are attempting to derail the thread by making this about communism when it has nothing to do with that other than your apparent grievances with the OP.
Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity, to
and a bunch of those people just grew into adulthood never questioning it lol
lmao
Maybe people can actually visit the OT and talk to the people there.
Or just look at the damn poll.
Do you think I owe you a debate? It's a thread about flag burning and you want to come in like Ben Shapiro.
Honestly did not expect this thread to blow up, I'm shocked it's still up tbh.
you know for something you don't have feelings on you sure do go on about it a bunch
My post is a critique of the entire mission of trying to abolish ownership of capital in the United States without military support as I find the entire theory that you could abolish private ownership of capital in the United States without a military coup to be laughable.
I "shadowbox" the 20 posters on Era who are communist/anarchist because I find those philosophies really bad and this site bans monarchists/libertarians/fascists/primativists/basically anyone with a philosophy as bad as anarchy/communism other than anarchists/communists.
Seriously. I think a person can be liberal or progressive as fuck in all other ways, but because of conditioning, they feel they are being personally attacked if harm is done to the flag or their patriotism is questioned or even if others say they don't love this country. I mean, they PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE to the flag!
It was very effective.
I often go online and pretend to be European.
Do you not see how you're derailing the thread here, you're just randomly bringing up the OP's and other poster's political backgrounds as some kind of "gotcha". There's a whole OT to talk about socialism, but given how disingenuous you're being here, it makes too much sense that you stay away from a discussion that requires a little effort to engage with, instead taking potshots in a completely unrelated thread.
every few pages we get this take from someone who hasn't read the thread and then heeere we go again again
ok but can you do that in a thread where that's the topic
I don't care about anti-nationalist signalling, I do care about communism as a philosophy which I dislike. I find the anti-nationalist strategy of most communists (as well as libertarians, fascists, anarchists etc) to be very poor as their philosophy requires a military coup.
That would be the intent.
Never underestimate a person's willingness to make themselves look foolish in order to try and accomplish some oblique objective.
as we all know, europe is full of commies
so this meme is a brilliant allegory of leftist infighting enthusiastically cheered on by the american capitalist pigs
Maybe someone with more forum experience can weigh in here, but this sounds like off-topic beef that has now derailed the thread.
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