Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel |OT| Nightmare Troubadour

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Everyone making annoying mill decks to burn you in the new Tryout and meanwhile I just played my Pendulums as usual XD.

On a different matter, according to leaks, it seems that Majespecter and Ty-Phon are coming next, and I honestly had forgotten that Majespecter got new support. Not that it's particularly relevant, mind you, but I guess I can use it for Dracoslayer.

Flabbergasted that Konami is really thinking on unleashing full power Yubel without/at the same time as Voiceless Voice.

Voiceless will arrive dead, we could have had such a fun format with it at full power at the same time as fire started its dominance but noooooo.

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I was under the impression that Voiceless Voice was still a meta contender, even if it's match up against Yubel was bad.

Although I do think they should have brought it earlier, especially considering the reign of Snake Eyes.

Hopefully it's release is not that far away and Konami will refrain from releasing Fiendsmith for a long time.

 

[OhSatan]

Everyone making annoying mill decks to burn you in the new Tryout and meanwhile I just played my Pendulums as usual XD.

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I just murdered them with Rescue ACE, most surrendered lol.

I was under the impression that Voiceless Voice was still a meta contender, even if it's match up against Yubel was bad.

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Yeah they do because Snake Eyes is still top dog but they have no chance against anything else.

I don't know how a bo1 will change their matchups tho.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

So, 6k gems.

Got 1 Zeus, 2 Ty-Phon, 3 Centur-Ion Legatia (!), 1 Centur-Ion Auxilia, 2 Yubel The Loving Defender, 2 Nightmare Throne and 2 Iron Thunder

Not that great, honestly.

Between Centur-Ion and Yubel, I was planning on building whichever needed the less UR cards... so I guess that'd be Yubel?

I honestly expected it to be more expensive, but it's not that bad.

On a different matter, it seems the prediction that the Mulcharmy monsters would be a series of "watered down" versions of Maxx C turned out to be true. If the full set doesn't cause Maxx C to eventually be banned, I don't know what will.

 

[OhSatan]

I went 5K deep and had to craft 3 Thrones but I pulled a lot of Urs so eh I will call it a wash.

To anyone doubting on the Waifu tax poor Centur-Ion they got murdered.

so I guess that'd be Yubel?

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yeah the cheapest is
3 Thrones
2 Phantom
1 Loving

+ Super Poly if you go that way.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

I went 5K deep and had to craft 3 Thrones but I pulled a lot of Urs so eh I will call it a wash.

To anyone doubting on the Waifu tax poor Centur-Ion they got murdered.


yeah the cheapest is
3 Thrones
2 Phantom
1 Loving

+ Super Poly if you go that way.

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I think the Waifu tax was obvious since at least Mikanko. XP

A shame because I do find Centur-Ion's gimmick interesting.

Anyway, with the Duel Pass, some of the cards I dismantled and the copy of Bonfire that got banned, I think I have enough materials to build a first version of Yubel. Might add the Unchained engine later once I get more gems.

I already had Super Poly, however, so... =D

 

[OhSatan]

I will not dust my Air Lifter, They served me well.

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Pure Yubel has sooooo much grind but oh damn does it is a difficult deck to pilot a lot of interactions.

 

[night814]

Got enough of the yubel stuff where I can craft the rest if I need to, gonna run a discount version and see if I like it or hang on to it what i have till fiendsmith arrives

 

[OhSatan]

Why the hell did they leave Maxx C legal for the XYZ cup?

I dusted off my MagistuSisters deck for this, The bans are a little hurtful but it's the best I have before going Rescue lol.

on the ladder side, the meta with all the antiYubel stuff has been pretty sweet a lot of variety like some of the events, wonder how long before people realize they can keep playing Snake-Eyes.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

The XYZ cup puzzles me on principle. I would have expected them to do a Synchro/Fusion event or something like that in order to promote the new cards, but instead they're doing this (although I guess that at least explains the Xyz selection pack).

Yubel is fun to play even if I don't quite know yet what I'm doing half the time XD. Kinda feels like Mikanko on steroids, given how your win condition is about reflecting all the battle damage to your opponent with your 0 ATK monsters.

Speaking of Snake Eyes, I was wondering what I could even play in the XYZ cup. Was thinking of cobbling something together with Spright, but then checking online I saw someone talking about Lirylusc Snake Eyes...

It's honestly terrifying how well those archetypes synergize even in the absence of Links. And yes, I realize I'm part of the problem by contributing to the Fire reign of terror even in a place where you wouldn't have expected to see it.

 

[OhSatan]

Well the extra July pack is real, so the rumour that it will be all the missing one offs probably is real also.

Wonder if they fast track some random OCG cards.

Dragoon Believe!!!

 

[Emperor_El]

The Ghoti support better be in there.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Switched to Fire Kings over the weekend for the XYZ Cup. I got tired of the prevalence of non-Xyz decks like Labrynth, Mikanko, and especially Horus, so when in Rome...

As to the new selection pack, I'm genuinely curious about what else it might include. It's honestly nice to see them release cards early, I just wish that trend hadn't started with Snake Eyes.

 

[OhSatan]

I went rescue since the Magistusisters used a fusion lol

Today I murdered a shark enjoyer with Rescue, I think I created a villain =(

 

[Zombegoast]

Cards to be unbanned

Heavy Storm and Snatch Steal

Cards left untouched

D Shifter, Fenrir, Unicorn, Arise Heart, Jowgen and Fossil Dyna

 

[OhSatan]

Cowards, give us Heavy Storm at 3!!!

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

So, what I get from this extra selection pack is that I might just save my gems for the next one and just craft Heavy Storm (and maybe Dragon Magia Master for whenever the new Blue Eyes support comes).

Cards to be unbanned

Heavy Storm and Snatch Steal

Cards left untouched

D Shifter, Fenrir, Unicorn, Arise Heart, Jowgen and Fossil Dyna

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To be fair, it seems to be specifically a "bonus" ban list due to the release of the extra selection pack, not the usual monthly ban list.

Of course, that's besides the point that I agree all that stuff you list there should go away and then some.

 

[OhSatan]

Gimmick Puppet Nightmare (3 ⇒ 0)

who hurt the MD devs? lol

Actually I do find it interesting because the post nationals analysis is mostly saying Puppet lock is a nothingburger in the competitive scene but here with all the data it maybe a problem here.

 

[Zombegoast]

Gimmick Puppet Nightmare (3 ⇒ 0)

who hurt the MD devs? lol

Actually I do find it interesting because the post nationals analysis is mostly saying Puppet lock is a nothingburger in the competitive scene but here with all the data it maybe a problem here.

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Replace puppet with Jowgen and with Verte still legal, it's a tiny engine that anyone can play

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

And just yesterday I was hoping the monthly ban list would be better than the bonus one. Nice of Konami for proving me wrong so quickly.

Full list:

Cards to be Unlimited:
Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier (2 ⇒ 3)
Infernity Launcher (2 ⇒ 3)
Divine Arsenal AA-ZEUS - Sky Thunder (2 ⇒ 3)
Sekka's Light (2 ⇒ 3)
Superheavy Samurai Wagon (2 ⇒ 3)

Cards to be Forbidden:
Ido the Supreme Magical Force (3 ⇒ 0)
Gimmick Puppet Nightmare (3 ⇒ 0)

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Ok, I once said that they should at the very least ban Gimmick Puppet Nightmare and Ido, as they were the two most common targets for the lock involving Albion the Sanctifire Dragon.

However, that was when the card was new. Now, we are so far removed from it's release that frankly, if you're finally going to address the damned lock, then just outright ban Albion itself or put an errata on it.

A half measure is just not acceptable anymore.

As to the rest of the list, I once would have balked at the idea of freeing Zeus, but the Xyz Cup has definitely proven to me that the card is just not as oppressive as it used to be.

 

[B-Dubs]

Gimmick Puppet Nightmare is definitely the card that should be banned there because it's the problem card here. Sanctifire isn't really an issue if GPN doesn't exist and GPN will continue to be an issue going forward and will limit card design as a result. Banning it makes the most sense because it solves any future issues.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Gimmick Puppet Nightmare is definitely the card that should be banned there because it's the problem card here. Sanctifire isn't really an issue if GPN doesn't exist and GPN will continue to be an issue going forward and will limit card design as a result. Banning it makes the most sense because it solves any future issues.

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Honestly, even assuming that any future card could allow the Gimmick Puppet Nightmare lock, thus meriting its ban, Albion is still a problem because it still has like six other valid targets with the same effect of preventing the opponent from special summoning.

Now that Ido and GPN are gone, people will start running stuff like Jogwen (itself meriting a ban because of how many stun decks are running around using it) or Ra's disciple.

However, Albion shouldn't really be that hard to fix. Just make an errata adding a clause to the effect that let's you summon two monsters from the Graveyard: 'but negate their effects unless their name is "Fallen of Albaz" or "Ecclesia the Virtuous"'.

 

[B-Dubs]

Honestly, even assuming that any future card could allow the Gimmick Puppet Nightmare lock, thus meriting its ban, Albion is still a problem because it still has like six other valid targets with the same effect of preventing the opponent from special summoning.

Now that Ido and GPN are gone, people will start running stuff like Jogwen (itself meriting a ban because of how many stun decks are running around using it) or Ra's disciple.

However, Albion shouldn't really be that hard to fix. Just make an errata adding a clause to the effect that let's you summon two monsters from the Graveyard: 'but negate their effects unless their name is "Fallen of Albaz" or "Ecclesia the Virtuous"'.

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If we're being real, most of those lock cards should be banned anyway. I don't disagree that an errata would fix albion, but those other cards are still an issue going forward.

 

[OhSatan]

Honestly, even assuming that any future card could allow the Gimmick Puppet Nightmare lock, thus meriting its ban, Albion is still a problem because it still has like six other valid targets with the same effect of preventing the opponent from special summoning.

Now that Ido and GPN are gone, people will start running stuff like Jogwen (itself meriting a ban because of how many stun decks are running around using it) or Ra's disciple.

However, Albion shouldn't really be that hard to fix. Just make an errata adding a clause to the effect that let's you summon two monsters from the Graveyard: 'but negate their effects unless their name is "Fallen of Albaz" or "Ecclesia the Virtuous"'.

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkxsvyuyHDM

Lock doesn't really lock without those two really.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

If we're being real, most of those lock cards should be banned anyway. I don't disagree that an errata would fix albion, but those other cards are still an issue going forward.

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Yeah, most floodgate monsters like that tend to be annoying and toxic as hell, but Konami very rarely does mass banning.

At the very least I hope they eventually ban Jogwen and the Barrier statues.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkxsvyuyHDM

Lock doesn't really lock without those two really.

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Eh, I don't think his argument is very convincing.

Grandguignol can use either a Dark OR Light monster as material along with Cartesia, so if the primary method for putting Gimmick Puppet Nightmare in the graveyard was through that fusion, then the same still applies to the likes of Jogwen and Ra's disciple for whoever was running the Gimmick Puppet/Albion lock already.

That's besides the fact that Branded players prioritize putting Lubellion in the Graveyard, which they can do in a myriad of ways.

Edit: Wait, re-reading the effect of Grandguignol and rewatching the video, I misunderstood the part about how it's effect to send a level 6 Light or Dark monster from the deck to the Graveyard was the most reliable method to send Gimmick Puppet Nightmare or Ido. So, the most reliable way of doing the lock now is just Branded Fusion.

So, he has a point that the Albion lock will see far less play now. I still wouldn't discount a few people doing it however, considering how Branded has a myriad of extenders.

 

[OhSatan]

2K excess gems on the pack, only 1 UR, Bingo Machine ok I guess? (had none)

Crafted Heavy Storm, depending on when the august pack drops I may need to do another pull, hope it doesn't bite me in the ass...

Heavy Storm animation is probably the most unimaginative they have done but Oh Damn Magia goes HARD, it looks beautiful, they went all in.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Wait, they put the Toy Box engine in the bonus pack... and made Toy Box itself Ultra Rare?!

URRRGGGHHH!!!

 

[Zombegoast]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkxsvyuyHDM

Lock doesn't really lock without those two really.

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I can say that their banlist is being handled by AI and not actual people.

The whole point of a banlist is to decrease the power level of a deck that's dominant and yet Branded is #1 in ranking and banning Puppet and Ido doesn't do anything when Vice does the exact same thing

Now with Horus out, rank has been insufferable because of the whole "cost" of discarding rainbow and search their field spell and being part of a stun deck that can protect their cards if you think you can play through summon limit while having 4 monsters on the field

Konami should be banning these cards but let stun decks do whatever they want

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Next selection pack comes with Raidraptor, Ice Barrier and Voiceless Voice. Kind of a weird thematic combination, but at least Voiceless Voice is finally coming.

I can say that their banlist is being handled by AI and not actual people.

The whole point of a banlist is to decrease the power level of a deck that's dominant and yet Branded is #1 in ranking and banning Puppet and Ido doesn't do anything when Vice does the exact same thing

Now with Horus out, rank has been insufferable because of the whole "cost" of discarding rainbow and search their field spell and being part of a stun deck that can protect their cards if you think you can play through summon limit while having 4 monsters on the field

Konami should be banning these cards but let stun decks do whatever they want

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I mean, while I agree that stun decks are insufferable and Konami should ban most floodgates, I have to ask: where is Branded being ranked number one?

Right now the most dominant decks are Snake Eyes and Yubel. The later is too new to ban, while I can only hope the former finally gets some massive hits next month after the World Championship.

 

[OhSatan]

I would kill to know why they are sending Voiceless to die like this.

We could have had the best format of the 3 but they do this.

Extra funny if they release the missing Memento cards.

 

[Zombegoast]

Next selection pack comes with Raidraptor, Ice Barrier and Voiceless Voice. Kind of a weird thematic combination, but at least Voiceless Voice is finally coming.



I mean, while I agree that stun decks are insufferable and Konami should ban most floodgates, I have to ask: where is Branded being ranked number one?

Right now the most dominant decks are Snake Eyes and Yubel. The later is too new to ban, while I can only hope the former finally gets some massive hits next month after the World Championship.

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[Great Martinez Jr.]

Season 31 Top 10 Rating Deck Lists | Master Duel Meta

It's the end of Master Duel's first Rating Duel Season - here's what the best players in the game played!

www.masterduelmeta.com

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Ok, I honestly forgot that feature was a thing.

And checking the two deck lists that ranked there, neither one even uses the Albion lock, so the ban list becomes even more mystifying.

 

[OhSatan]

Someone at Konami Digital just sent VV to die.

Some meta decks get a better UR treatment, even for a nostalgia deck this is criminal.
Probably a preview of the Exodia deck.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Some of the recent QoL changes in the new version are good, but I'm not quite sure about how they rearranged the main menu screen.

I just really wish they gave us more replay slots (I would even pay for them, Konami!) or some option to easily post them to YouTube.

Someone at Konami Digital just sent VV to die.

Some meta decks get a better UR treatment, even for a nostalgia deck this is criminal.
Probably a preview of the Exodia deck.

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...Wait, how many UR cards you need to run Voiceless Voice? *Checks MD Meta" ...That many?!

Yeah, someone on the development team definitely had it out for this deck. Jesus!

 

[OhSatan]

Just got a Royal IO, we cool game, we cool...

...Wait, how many UR cards you need to run Voiceless Voice? *Checks MD Meta" ...That many?!

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Yup VV is the rare deck were the core and options are so good that you want to see them.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Ok, 6k gems on Wings of the Guardian:
3 Mirror Mage of the Ice Barrier
1 Lancea
1 Raidraptor Bloom Vulture
2 Rising Rebellion Raptor
1 Enigmaster Packbit
1 Diviner of the Herald
1 Lo
2 Saffira

Not that bad, but not that great either. It will take a lot of time to build Voiceless Voice but I guess I can try Ice Barrier?

(Talking seriously, I remember hearing that Mirror Mage could work as support for Spright, but I really can't see any synergy beyond it being level 2).

As an aside, I also spent before 2k on the Masters Saga (to see if I could get Toy Box):
1 Blue-Eyes Spirit Dragon
1 Dragon Master Magia (of all things)
1 Ace Spades Speculation
2 Crackdown

I guess I can dust three of those cards to craft something.

 

[OhSatan]

Who knew Water & Wind had the most toxic cards combined.

This event is hell.

 

[Cruxist]

This event is pretty bad. I have Floow deck that I built back when they came out, made a few adjustments and am running it. All these damn ice barrier decks take 5 minute turns, and then as soon as I throw a single bird down, they quit. Stop wasting my time!

 

[night814]

Yeah it sucks lol. I did the regular missions but really don't feel like grinding a ton of games to get all the medals. I'll play some more when the second mission(s) appear but woof

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

Decided to take advantage of the three Mirror Mages I got, so I made my own Ice Barrier deck for the event.

Really feels like an event that's extremely lopsided in favor of whoever goes first, between decks that put stuff like Stealth Kragen as a floodgate, Paleozoic in general and it's pseudo FTK variant in particular, and of course Ice Barrier itself.

I can't say I have been fan of it, although I guess I can commend them for the gem missions being a bit more interesting than usual.

 

[Gearkeeper 8A]

I love this event, gishki has very good matchups against most decks, and no maxx c or ash to stop my plays.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

So, what passes for the next ban list:

Cards to be Unlimited
Saryuja Skull Dread (1 ⇒ 3)
Bystial Druiswurm (1 ⇒ 3)

Cards to be Limited
White Dragon Wyverburster (0 ⇒ 1)

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Utterly disappointing but I'm not surprised at this point. It's clear they are not going to do anything more serious about Snake Eyes until its lore finally ends.

And I guess their big idea to rein in Yubel was letting more Bystials live. And then decided to throw Dragon Link a bone while they were at that?

As an aside, next selection pack includes Ragnaraika, Aroma, Genex, Ancient Gear and Lightsworn. Almost feels like they just threw together a lot of the cards that were pending release.

Nothing that interests me there, so I guess I'll do a few more pulls to see if I can build Voiceless Voice.

 

[Gearkeeper 8A]

Love me ancient gears the first deck i made, and still use it on paper. The only think i dont like is that they arr too URs heavy and i want to make a voiceless deck too.

 

[OhSatan]

I will not talk about how my Lightsworn pulls went, Instead I will tell that all the other URs paid for my new Lightsworn cards.

I have never pulled so much URs ever.
Also Konami making the new Lightsworn cards reasonable rarity, what is this.


Had my first D-Link opponent, Damn it Konami!!! We were at peace!!!!

 

[Regiruler]

Well balanced pack offset by a joke of a banlist.

Also, the new music for stage 1 is wonderful.

 

[The Silver]

My earth machine deck is so damn combo heavy I've lost a few times due to timing myself out lmao, I miss the old timer😭.

 

[TeddyShardik]

Hey guys. I haven't been playing the card game for like, what, 10+ years. I got in at the beginning and followed along but I just lost interest at some point when the game got too fast for me.

I was very proud of my Nephthys deck a really long time ago, and then I discovered the Six Samurai.
I was basically the basement KING with that.
Really liked that deck.

Is there any way I can get to that basic deck again, pre-syncro, pre xyz, pre pendulum bullshit?
I'm looking over all the structure decks on offer and none really seem like what I'm looking for.

I'd really appreciate some help on where to start.

 

[Great Martinez Jr.]

So, the OCG ban list just came out and it seems that the Mulcharmy are indeed going to lead to Maxx C's eventual demise. So, good riddance for that, even if Fuwaross is probably only marginally less annoying.

It also seems like Beatrice is going to be banned in every format eventually. I wonder if MD might do so preventively before Fiendsmith arrives.

They're also hitting Fiendsmith, Snake Eyes, Yubel and Tenpai Dragon more extensively this time, not that it might matter much because Rayzeol and Malice were already on route to become the next top dogs.

On the plus side, Dragoon is finally getting freed from his prison on the OCG, so hopefully we'll also see him freed in MD.

Hey guys. I haven't been playing the card game for like, what, 10+ years. I got in at the beginning and followed along but I just lost interest at some point when the game got too fast for me.

I was very proud of my Nephthys deck a really long time ago, and then I discovered the Six Samurai.
I was basically the basement KING with that.
Really liked that deck.

Is there any way I can get to that basic deck again, pre-syncro, pre xyz, pre pendulum bullshit?
I'm looking over all the structure decks on offer and none really seem like what I'm looking for.

I'd really appreciate some help on where to start.

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Unfortunately, the overall pace and design of Yu-Gi-Oh has changed a lot and it doesn't seem like Konami will ever slow things down again.

That being said, while it can be hard and frustrating, it's not impossible to adapt to the modern game even if you're an old school player. I had stopped playing Yu-Gi-Oh since around the beginning of the Synchro era, came back because of Master Duel and while it was extremely overwhelming at first, I eventually learned how to deal with the modern game.

There are several tutorials on YouTube that can help you to learn how to play new archetypes as well as what staple cards to get. The web page Master Duel Meta is also a good resource, as it has plenty of in-depth guides. I remember even seeing one guide there to introduce old school players to the modern game.

And if all of that fails... Well, maybe you can search some groups online that exclusively play with older card pools and/or order formats.

In any case, just try to be patient and keep a cool head. The game can be extremely frustrating these days, but it can also be surprisingly rewarding once you get the hang of it.

 

[TeddyShardik]

So, the OCG ban list just came out and it seems that the Mulcharmy are indeed going to lead to Maxx C's eventual demise. So, good riddance for that, even if Fuwaross is probably only marginally less annoying.

It also seems like Beatrice is going to be banned in every format eventually. I wonder if MD might do so preventively before Fiendsmith arrives.

They're also hitting Fiendsmith, Snake Eyes, Yubel and Tenpai Dragon more extensively this time, not that it might matter much because Rayzeol and Malice were already on route to become the next top dogs.

On the plus side, Dragoon is finally getting freed from his prison on the OCG, so hopefully we'll also see him freed in MD.



Unfortunately, the overall pace and design of Yu-Gi-Oh has changed a lot and it doesn't seem like Konami will ever slow things down again.

That being said, while it can be hard and frustrating, it's not impossible to adapt to the modern game even if you're an old school player. I had stopped playing Yu-Gi-Oh since around the beginning of the Synchro era, came back because of Master Duel and while it was extremely overwhelming at first, I eventually learned how to deal with the modern game.

There are several tutorials on YouTube that can help you to learn how to play new archetypes as well as what staple cards to get. The web page Master Duel Meta is also a good resource, as it has plenty of in-depth guides. I remember even seeing one guide there to introduce old school players to the modern game.

And if all of that fails... Well, maybe you can search some groups online that exclusively play with older card pools and/or order formats.

In any case, just try to be patient and keep a cool head. The game can be extremely frustrating these days, but it can also be surprisingly rewarding once you get the hang of it.

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I can adjust to the speed, as long as I don't have to buy the cards that allow it. :P

My question was a little more pointed.
Like, "How the fuck do I get Six Samurai out of all these sets?"
I don't see anything involving samurai in structure decks, or even packs.
Not even one focused on Warriors. It's just Syncro, pendulum and other nonsense.

 

[Emperor_El]

I can adjust to the speed, as long as I don't have to buy the cards that allow it. :P

My question was a little more pointed.
Like, "How the fuck do I get Six Samurai out of all these sets?"
I don't see anything involving samurai in structure decks, or even packs.
Not even one focused on Warriors. It's just Syncro, pendulum and other nonsense.

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Craft one of the SR Six Samurai cards and it'll unlock the pack that they're in for 24 hours.

 

[OhSatan]

I can adjust to the speed, as long as I don't have to buy the cards that allow it. :P

My question was a little more pointed.
Like, "How the fuck do I get Six Samurai out of all these sets?"
I don't see anything involving samurai in structure decks, or even packs.
Not even one focused on Warriors. It's just Syncro, pendulum and other nonsense.

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