The thing is Infinity War would likely take up a chunk of that market.
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Wkd Box Office - 5•4-6•18 - Thanos throws competition Overboard, stays BO champ ($112M 2nd wkd)
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Expected more of IWs second weekend, but damn it's climbing up fast with its OW numbers and not even out in China. Really interested in its final number at the end of the run, maybe 2.2 bil?
You would think that, but kids get parents to let them watch most of this
My dad had me and my bro watch Terminator 2 with us, like we were still young. I think I was 11 or 12 baby bro 5 or 6.
Parents just see Deadpool as raunchy superhero, shit they buy so many of the action figures for them
Because one works as a standalone movie while other requires you to watch more than 1 dozen movies just to have some sort of emotional attachment to the characters whose lives are on stake.
You didn't say anything about standalone or whatever. You said it didn't have anything on IW.
I gave you two things it did have on it.
Are oscars given on the basis of RT and MC score?
We are talking about BP being nominated for Oscars and I am saying there is no category it deserves to be nominated for, same for IW. Maybe they can try for visuals for IW and Costume for BP but other than that, both are same quality wise.
Oscars are given out for a number of reasons, some of which includes critical acclaim.
In your subjective opinion, they are equals but in terms of objective social impact and commentary, IW isn't close.
It's laughable to say otherwise.
One of the things I love about BP is that they took a potentially extremely controversial elephant in the room with the source material, and decided to make it the entire point of the whole movie.
That's some balls of vibranium
That's some balls of vibranium
First ten minutes were okay and I was thinking to myself "huh maybe critics were a bit too harsh."
Then Oprah showed up.
Fuck me.
Naw bro, IW and BP are equals...actually, no, BP has nothing on IW and is certainly not deserving of Oscar talk.
Why do you people keep setting yourselves up for disappointment?
I mean, that's still a pretty phenomenal number. It was never gonna have a hold as impressive as BP's (let alone TFA).
It's like, the thing to do for a lot of Marvel fans, lol.
Oh, and beat Harry Potter on the worldwide list but it'll do that on the way to $700 mil.
Social impact? IW has got it covered really well. The movie is popular in different circles but it will have more impact than BP.
I just don't see how someone can say that BP deserves Oscar nominations with a straight face. It had terrible visuals, average predictable story, methodical acting and it was a comic book movie through the end with even a goofy final fight scene. It is nowhere close to something like The Dark Knight and that movie never got Oscars wins (aside from well deserved Joker win), so why should Black Panther be considered here?
I would love to hear your reasoning aside from merely pointing out its RT and MC score.
Neither Infinity War nor Black Panther deserve an Oscar in any main category. The CGI on Thanos does deserve an Oscar for visual effects, it is incredible.
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I was gonna respond to this post. I wanted to. Then I read the bolded.
The poster conflates "social impact" with being popular in different circles. Sigh...
Then, the poster calls this film, a film with an "average predictable story".
SLAYVEN, what the fuck am I even supposed to do with this? What kind of reasonable conversation can be had when THIS is the starting point for this guy?
You are right, I might have made a mistake here. I don't deny the cultural impact BP has, and I didn't really had the intentions to do so.
The rest of the criticism towards the movie stands for me though. It is a good movie but IMHO, it is also overrated even with its flaws. With that, I have said whatever I wanted to say on this subject.
IW > BP for me. Neither need the Oscars for more visibility. They are already popular enough. They should just focus on movies that deserve it instead.
I wouldn't be surprised if Black Panther gets a Best Score nom.
Yeah, superhero movies haven't quite hit the Oscar level like RotK did for fantasy (and really, all of LotR).
I don't think they ever will. Just like the comics, their nature is to be serialized and allow for unlimited sequels to be made. The emotional stakes will always be limited by this model.
A Wrinkle in Time was embarrassingly terrible, you would imagine that if you had a movie that was entirely reliant on three kids, you would get kids who could act.
Amazed at Overboard, I honestly wasn't even thinking it would hit a million it's opening weekend let alone over 10.
Amazed at Overboard, I honestly wasn't even thinking it would hit a million it's opening weekend let alone over 10.
Honestly a lot of the adult acting was equally stilted. It was weird.
When your best actor is Zach Galafanakis, time to worry.
I enjoyed IW and I consider it in my Top 3 MCU movies but the person who said it will be MCU's RotK is wrong. It is not. It is not even on the same level as The Dark Knight.
RotK was just something else. I consider the movie perfect in every way. It had the best visual effects, set and costume design, great direction by Peter (his best work), amazing acting by main and supporting cast, and a satisfying emotional pay off at end.
LOTR is easily my favorite trilogy in movies. It is a pity that The Godfather never managed to complete its trilogy in the same way. Godfather will remain the best Duology forever, I guess.
RotK was just something else. I consider the movie perfect in every way. It had the best visual effects, set and costume design, great direction by Peter (his best work), amazing acting by main and supporting cast, and a satisfying emotional pay off at end.
LOTR is easily my favorite trilogy in movies. It is a pity that The Godfather never managed to complete its trilogy in the same way. Godfather will remain the best Duology forever, I guess.
It was Bla. He doesn't know anything but being wrong.
He's like a less hot-takey Strafer.
But there's still another Avengers movie to come to close out the arc. Then the awards will come.
What's bullshit is that Ant Man and the Wasp hits the UK an entire month later then the US. I want my Captain Marvel setup.
I generally agree with this sentiment but it's clear that something has to change soon. They're out of touch with audiences and it will only get worse and worse until change happens. There is absolutely a valid argument that a film like Black Panther deserves to be one of freaking 10 best picture nominees. A win? Unlikely. But it's time to start recognizing audience-pleasing blockbusters if they're well made films.
And when it happens, pretentious film dorks will be upset. Oh well.
No stakes though.
I am obviously poking fun at the "no steaks" people.
i feel your pain brother
every single midnight showing, every single thursday 6pm showing, every single tuesday 10am showing... and this is how i get rewarded feige?!
Best original song All the Stars, best costumes
Infinity War for visual effects
That's about it. Though I'm getting pretty certain that Black Panther will also be nominated for best picture as well.
Black Panther will be nominated for Best Picture, yes. 80+ Metacritic, huge cultural phenomenon, not an insignificant chance of being the biggest domestic hit of 2018, socially important in a way the large majority of moneymakers aren't, support from the right people in Hollywood.
Are you also counting the mid-week gross in those weekend drop numbers?
BP was still doing close to $400k a day during last week. that's $1.6M Mon-Thurs + the Weekend Gross of $3.1M (est)
If it does around $300k a day all this upcoming week x4 days, that's $1.2M + your $2.4M for next weekend, that's already more than half of what's needed to get to the $700M goal.
so unless my math is way off, looks more like 2 (maybe 2.5) weeks away.
I mean, the Oscars are already kinda dumb, so whatever
But "ratings are down so we should just plop Oscars on whatever made money this year" would be so stupid. Might as well just say fuck it and go full Spike VGAs at that point if we really are gonna care only about ratings.
I fully expect at least a nomination for VFX and possibly sound mixing but nothing more than that. BP better get a costume design and best original song. BP might also deserve a production design nom but imo IW draws from too many different design influences to get it.
As of 2014, Oscar voters are 91% white, 76% male, with an average age of 63. That's what needs changing, first and foremost.
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There's a middle ground between what the Oscars are now and the Spike VGAs. You know that.
Hell, not even a middle ground. Just nominating more movies that audiences actually give a crap about.
I would be shocked if any MCU movie ever gets anything at the Oscars above a nomination for Best Score, Best Visual Effects or Best Costume Design. These movies are fun and some of them are great, but Oscar-compatible? Nah.
They're incredibly competent films and even the less solid ones are still a fun way to waste two hours, but they don't really do anything unique with the medium. Lord of the Rings got Oscars because it was a landmark in visual effects and film production - it essentially set the tone for big-budget filmmaking and defined the process by which studios make movies nowadays. And even then, it was Return of the King claiming the lion's share of those Oscars (at least, the important ones - Fellowship and Towers only got recognized for minor awards), primarily as a means of rewarding that production team retroactively for all their hard work over the course of the three films.
The MCU movies are just so standardized and so frequent now that any individual film doesn't really stand out enough for the Academy to make that kind of case for it. Instead, I think they should give Kevin Feige some kind of award for his work in creating the franchise. That's probably the best way to really handle it, because these movies aren't unique, distinctive or artistically-crafted enough to justify a Best Picture nom, but the MCU's impact on film as a whole I think should absolutely be recognized.
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