International audiences like mediocre movies all the time though.It was just mediocre. Let's not lump all international audiences in as some monolith that only like spectacle. That's nonsense.
I hate this narrative.Success or not, Captain Marvel will show the world the numbers an actual great female led superhero movie can do.
haha sureSuccess or not, Captain Marvel will show the world the numbers an actual great female led superhero movie can do.
yeah but I still think WW deserved to hit 1b more than freaking AquamanPeople have to realise over half of Wonder Woman's grossing came domestically ($412M of $821M).
Internationally Wonder Woman did less than Homecoming, Ragnarok, Guardians Vol.2, Justice League and not much higher than Logan either last year. This year Infinity War, Black Panther, Venom, Deadpool 2, The Incredibles 2 and even Ant-Man and the Wasp made more overseas. Most of these aren't even close.
When all is said and done Aquaman's international total is going to be near double of Wonder Woman's.
Wonder Woman simply didn't capture audiences outside of North America. Personally I think the movie was good but overrated and very poor in parts too (e.g. final act). Can't say I'm surprised it didn't.
To be fair, MCU trailers have kind of sucked for years barring maybe the Black Panther teaser. Like they're being edited on autopilot.
You can probably count on one hand the amount of superhero movies where the romantic leads have good chemistry. Besides the ones you mentioned I guess there's also the first Captain America, the Amazing Spider-Man movies, Deadpool, and that might actually pretty much be it. RDJ and Gwyneth Paltrow have their moments too I suppose.There's not much of it, but I really liked the bond between Arthur and his dad, both performers sold that well.
Yeah Momo and Amber had zero chemistry, but that's the case with most comic flicks. WW has the best romantic tale in the genre, and I thought Chadwick and Lupita were both great together in BP.
TDK was the top performer both domestic and overseas the year it released. It'd be like an Avengers movie today basically in terms of gross. It's nothing like Wonder Woman in that respect. You've got someone questioning why Wonder Woman didn't over perform internationally like it did domestically and the answer to that is simple. The hype wasn't there like it was on the domestic side just because you had a female superhero. That leaves you with how the movie resonates and obviously while it did well, it wasn't good enough to break the top ten overseas. It's basically middle of the road. There's no point trying to compare it to Aquaman since Aquaman does what it set out to do better anyway and that's why its resonating so much better with audiences.International audiences like mediocre movies all the time though.
WW just overperformed domestically, like TDK. And if that comparison holds, then the overseas gross for the sequel will be higher than the domestic take.
You can probably count on one hand the amount of superhero movies where the romantic leads have good chemistry. Besides the ones you mentioned I guess there's also the first Captain America, the Amazing Spider-Man movies, Deadpool, and that might actually pretty much be it. RDJ and Gwyneth Paltrow have their moments too I suppose.
You can probably count on one hand the amount of superhero movies where the romantic leads have good chemistry. Besides the ones you mentioned I guess there's also the first Captain America, the Amazing Spider-Man movies, Deadpool, and that might actually pretty much be it. RDJ and Gwyneth Paltrow have their moments too I suppose.
You liking Aquaman more than WW isn't an explanation for why Aquaman is outperforming WW overseas. Obviously Aquaman is striking a chord with international audiences more than WW did, the money is proof of that! But the explanation for why isn't going to be just "because WW is mediocre" because obviously a lot of other mediocre or worse movies have performed just as well or better overseas. Like, I'm pretty sure the Transformers movies are total dogshit, and yet all of those sequels have outgrossed WW overseas.TDK was the top performer both domestic and overseas the year it released. It'd be like an Avengers movie today basically in terms of gross. It's nothing like Wonder Woman in that respect. You've got someone questioning why Wonder Woman didn't over perform internationally like it did domestically and the answer to that is simple. The hype wasn't there like it was on the domestic side just because you had a female superhero. That leaves you with how the movie resonates and obviously while it did well, it wasn't good enough to break the top ten overseas. It's basically middle of the road. There's no point trying to compare it to Aquaman since Aquaman does what it set out to do better anyway and that's why its resonating so much better with audiences.
I am among those people."Professor Marston and the wonder women " , about WW's creator , should have defiantly done better. I liked it quiet a bit, but no one else seem to have watched it .
"Professor Marston and the wonder women " , about WW's creator , should have defiantly done better. I liked it quiet a bit, but no one else seem to have watched it .
Think of Wonder Woman as a more successful Batman Begins.yeah but I still think WW deserved to hit 1b more than freaking Aquaman
Yeah that's a pretty accurate way of putting itAs good as they are individually, they have no real chemistry. Tony talks at Pepper and doesn't react to her much at all. It's in the character I suppose, but no, there's no chemistry.
Now that I think about it, you're not wrongI genuinely think Wade and Vanessa in the first Deadpool is the best superhero movie romance.
haha sure
yeah but I still think WW deserved to hit 1b more than freaking Aquaman
Crazy how Aquaman will be the first DC movie in this movieverse to hit 1B. I'm happy for it. Such a fun, beautiful looking movie.
James Wan and James Gunn will propel DC forward I hope.
"if you strip a movie down of all it's good parts, it's not a good movie!"
Forget the DCEU, Aquaman has a shot at being the highest grossing DC movie period.Crazy how Aquaman will be the first DC movie in this movieverse to hit 1B. I'm happy for it. Such a fun, beautiful looking movie.
James Wan and James Gunn will propel DC forward I hope.
I genuinely think Wade and Vanessa in the first Deadpool is the best superhero movie romance.
Forget the DCEU, Aquaman has a shot at being the highest grossing DC movie period.
She really has.Nicole Kidman is having a good run between the breakout success of Aquaman this year and Big Little Lies last year.
We live in a world where Wonder Woman and Aquaman(!) are more popular and perform better than Batman and Superman, and the entire freakin Justice League. I would never have thought that possible.
Aquaman was so laughably mediocre that I'm surprised it's going to become the #1 grossing DC film.
Yeah, the Paddington 2 stans in here got pretty annoying earlier this yearI could certainly do with less blatant cheerleading for certain brands/studios in these threads. Unfortunately, I can't say other box office discussions around the web are much different.
Why do you hate joy?Yeah, the Paddington 2 stans in here got pretty annoying earlier this year
See what I mean? @mods
Aquaman was so laughably mediocre that I'm surprised it's going to become the #1 grossing DC film.
Shows what you get when you make good movies for DC. Like the ceiling is incredibly higher than Marvel movies, they've just been botching it for years.We live in a world where Wonder Woman and Aquaman(!) are more popular and perform better than Batman and Superman, and the entire freakin Justice League. I would never have thought that possible.
I want a Green Lantern movie with all the crazy stuff. Have Mogo, all of the Lanterns: Larfleeze, Dex Starr, Saint Walker etc...Shows what you get when you make good movies for DC. Like the ceiling is incredibly higher than Marvel movies, they've just been botching it for years.
Mate you didn't have to bring back the oceans saltyness with you from the theaterAquaman was so laughably mediocre that I'm surprised it's going to become the #1 grossing DC film.
Success or not, Captain Marvel will show the world the numbers an actual great female led superhero movie can do.
How come this feel-good light hearted action advanture crowd pleasing film making money ? the world may never know .
Wonder Woman was so, so much better in virtually every way (except maybe visuals, but the CGI hair was super bad).Mate you didn't have to bring back the oceans saltyness with you from the theater
If i was dc ans warner bros id make a new plan to lead to a 2025 justice league movieWe live in a world where Wonder Woman and Aquaman(!) are more popular and perform better than Batman and Superman, and the entire freakin Justice League. I would never have thought that possible.