Windows 11 vs. Windows 10. For gaming, worth it?
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If you have an HDR display, there are two advantages:
1. The OS now handles SDR content much better in HDR mode. For the most case, SDR apps no longer look washed out in HDR mode, although I have found some that still don't work correctly - specifically Steam. But it's good enough that it is now feasible to leave HDR enabled all the time, rather than having to switch it on and off any time you play an HDR game.
2. There is an Auto HDR option that will attempt to do HDR conversion on SDR games, similar to the one on Xbox. It's not as good as native HDR support, and doesn't really work with everything, but it can be fun to play around with.
There are also some downsides. I have had some stability issues with Nvidia's drivers that were not present for me on W10. The driver has crashed a couple when doing things like enabling / disabling Gsync or changing refresh rate. It may be related to the fact that I have multiple monitors, with one of them being HDMI 2.1.
1. The OS now handles SDR content much better in HDR mode. For the most case, SDR apps no longer look washed out in HDR mode, although I have found some that still don't work correctly - specifically Steam. But it's good enough that it is now feasible to leave HDR enabled all the time, rather than having to switch it on and off any time you play an HDR game.
2. There is an Auto HDR option that will attempt to do HDR conversion on SDR games, similar to the one on Xbox. It's not as good as native HDR support, and doesn't really work with everything, but it can be fun to play around with.
There are also some downsides. I have had some stability issues with Nvidia's drivers that were not present for me on W10. The driver has crashed a couple when doing things like enabling / disabling Gsync or changing refresh rate. It may be related to the fact that I have multiple monitors, with one of them being HDMI 2.1.
I've been using windows 11 for months and I would not recommend upgrading right now. The only reason I continue using it is that I don't want to spend an hour clean installing Windows 10. Regardless of its "official" release status Windows 11 is still a half baked beta OS and has a number of usability issues unrelated to gaming.
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Windows 11 has a couple of annoying interface quirks, but aside from that is about the same as Windows 10. There is not any strong reason to go one over the other. If you have a stable Windows 10 rig you can stick with it, if you are building a new rig you might go Windows 11 just to future proof.
Look there's really only 3 compelling reasons to not use 11:
* Not being able to drag things into the taskbar really annoys you that bad.
* You really care about a temporary loss in your NVME Random Write performance.
* You don't meet all the requirements.
Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean people are making shit up either.
There's a well known issue with NVME Random Writes that is destroying NVME Random Write performance by up to 50% right now.
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* Not being able to drag things into the taskbar really annoys you that bad.
* You really care about a temporary loss in your NVME Random Write performance.
* You don't meet all the requirements.
Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean people are making shit up either.
There's a well known issue with NVME Random Writes that is destroying NVME Random Write performance by up to 50% right now.
Windows 11 crippling NVMe SSD speeds according to multiple user reports
Windows 11 could be causing some performance problems for NVMe SSDs according to user feedback and reports online. The issues vary from reduced random writes to increased access times, among others.
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I wish I had known about this before upgrading. Idk why MS does this with every Windows release. Sooner or later they have to backtrack and implement the features that they took out.
I upgraded 2 out of 3 of my gaming machines to 11 and noticed no issues. So far, the only thing that has been annoying me is the notification menu and the news widget thing. And the battery/volume control being grouped together.
It's Windows 10 otherwise
It's Windows 10 otherwise
I think the bug fix is outLook there's really only 3 compelling reasons to not use 11:
* Not being able to drag things into the taskbar really annoys you that bad.
* You really care about a temporary loss in your NVME Random Write performance.
* You don't meet all the requirements.
Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean people are making shit up either.
There's a well known issue with NVME Random Writes that is destroying NVME Random Write performance by up to 50% right now.
Windows 11 crippling NVMe SSD speeds according to multiple user reports
Windows 11 could be causing some performance problems for NVMe SSDs according to user feedback and reports online. The issues vary from reduced random writes to increased access times, among others.
Reddit - Dive into anything
Still broken for some of us even on latest update.
It is fixed for some others.
Right now, it's Auto HDR and I believe the new Intel chips perform slightly better on Win11 compared to Win10. Other than that, might as well wait a few more months for polish to be applied before upgrading. I suppose that's a good thing: zero urgency.
Obviously, if you're making a new build, it'll make more sense to use Win11, to save the hassle (and potential bugs) of upgrading later.
Obviously, if you're making a new build, it'll make more sense to use Win11, to save the hassle (and potential bugs) of upgrading later.
Zero performance advantage unless you want Auto HDR and have a compatible HDR display.
Too much stuff is missing so I'm waiting for another year before I update to it (native small taskbar, never combine taskbar buttons, etc).
Too much stuff is missing so I'm waiting for another year before I update to it (native small taskbar, never combine taskbar buttons, etc).
Man i am still waiting a bit with 11 but the improved hdr sure sounds nice, i am a big fan of hdr on consoles, i might upgrade early next year.
There's just no compelling reaason to rush to Windows 11 specifically "for gaming" as the proposed catalyst.
If DirectStorage had been day one and exclusive that would've been a different story, but it's still not out and MIcrosoft walked back the W11 exclusivity bit.
If DirectStorage had been day one and exclusive that would've been a different story, but it's still not out and MIcrosoft walked back the W11 exclusivity bit.
I've been running Windows 11 for a while now. It seems to be just as solid as 10 now, after the initial issues with Ryzen. Auto HDR is cool if you have a HDR display. IMO it's safe to upgrade if your PC supports it.
Windows 11 broke Game Pass for me everytime I tried installing it. Bugs exist.
Went back to 10, and it's working fine now.
Why are you so aggressively defending an OS? It's buggy for a lot of people and generally most people recommend not upgrading yet. Good for you if you haven't experienced a bug yet, but claiming others are lying is just bizzare.
Tried both, same issues. App got worse over time in both instances.
I think my point was pretty clear, dude. Windows 11 might not be a smooth transition for everyone.
the point AnAdventureInGaming is trying to convey is that the jank in Game Pass is not exclusive to Windows 11.
I believe Halo Infinite uses Direct Storage, and that's kind of bananas to watch (if you don't have a next gen console). Load times are sub 5 seconds for the open world.
Beyond that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Beyond that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes but I believe demhax's experience is that his gamepass problems are worst on windows 11.
It sucks that gamepass is be such a crapshoot for a lot of people. Ive never had a problem in this W11 install, but i had my headaches on W10. I just wish gamepass would just be something you signed up on Steam.
I reluctantly upgraded to Win 11 because I bought Intel 12th gen CPU a while back. Having full CPU support is nice but losing almost all taskbar customization isn't nice. I'd say stay away from Win 11 for now, unless your hardware needs it for best functionality right now.
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Indeed, Game Pass on Steam would be awesome. I miss Auto HDR. I am just using SpecialK now to add HDR to games manually.
I'm pretty sure Halo doesn't use Direct Storage. Even if it did that feature is available in Windows 10 as well.
