Pop culture is a fucking monster. No way that rock music will ever top it. I don't think it even tries. The music is too out there unless it's fucking nickelback or some bullshit on there.
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Why is it still acceptable to refer to woman as b****** in hip hop music?
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What I'm saying is that you'd have to dig deep to find a rapper in the mainstream that isn't misogynistic whereas if you went through mainstream rock bands you'd have to dig deep to find misogynistic ones.
They are not as big as Drake nor do rock music in Maroon 5's case
Now you're switching goalposts. Culture isn't defined by what's popular on the charts. It's far wider reaching.
The thing about "bitch" is this, like "gay" before it: there are many uses of the term which do not in any way directly refer to women, but the entire reason the word exists in the usage it does is because it has association with women, and you're essentially using the word to say "you are acting like a woman, and that is a bad thing."
You don't need to believe anyone. Like I said, just keep doing you.
Fair enough. I'll say that the rock aesthetic is still one that is being chased by some of the more up-and-coming hip-hop acts like Lil Uzi Vert or Trippie Redd. It's also likely that some other, much larger acts incorporate some of its elements. Irrelevant is a pretty blanket term anyways. It's gonna have some ties.
That being said, the sentiment of that poster I think does still matter. Rock, in its more traditional forms aren't in the mainstream, and haven't really mattered for a while. To be honest I don't even remember the context of this in the thread (I think it was that hip-hop is dominant in mainstream American culture, and thus the use of the word there matters more than it does in rock; Also hip-hop simply does incorporate the word a bit more)
then we're just gonna go down a rabbit hole of what is and isn't rock music.
Chance
Jermaine
Drake
Shit I got a couple more depending on what you call misogynistic
Yeah, I wouldn't consider that rock. They're more on the pop side
It's nothing like that. What an awful comparison.
Ignoring the stupid comparison, are you saying that bitch is a word that no one should use anymore? That's what it sounds like.
Society will stop saying bitch, while music, movies and TV shows continue to?
Yeah, okay...
Drake has gotten better but like... Marvin's Room?
I'll give you Chance. Don't know Jermaine.
see: my previous post about rock music gatekeeping.
I mean, I guess if you say that's not rock music thats cool. People gatekeep all the time in hip hop saying "this ain't REAL hip hop". Not here to argue, Pop-rock is a genre, and they fall in that category
lol This thread.
Forgot Drake murdered every other hip-hop artist and is now the only one in the game.
Forgot Drake murdered every other hip-hop artist and is now the only one in the game.
Drake is a whiny ass motherfucker who has made songs about how women owe him sex, however Imma just use the last two years
Which include Nice for What aka the Bad Bitch anthem if the summer
Rock has tons of genres under the umbrella of "rock".
Here are some examples:
- Death metal
- Metal core
- Sludge metal
- Heavy metal
- Thrash metal
Would it be fair to say that Maroon 5 sounds more top 40 and would complement a R&B or hip hip song rather than Gojira?
The Beatles sound more closer to Maroon 5 than what you posted so where do we go from here?
Refer to him being such a Nice Guy so I decided to use his last two years
Which is lacking in misogony
I grew up on good hip hop, to me Kendrick is not even top 50, sorry
hard to make it out in that shitty video to be fair, on netflix its clearly:
Lady: "Do Mr.Rogers!"
Random asshole: "Shut up bitch!"
and Eddie drops the mic and loses it :p
But a rapper with a ghost writer? What the fuck happened? I swore I wouldn't tell, but most of y'all sharing bars like you got the bottom bunk in a two man cell
I love hip hop too but bitch is honestly a tame example. Sometimes I'm listening to new stuff and I'm just like "Damn really?" Anyway it leaves me wondering if anything like #metoo will ever effect the music industry.
Came out three years ago I thought
Accurate
me and my girl frequently call him and Ed Sheeran the Nice Guys
I mean if we ignore the man's entire discography before More Life sure, he's cut down on the misogyny a lot. But I wouldn't really say he's left all that shit in the past. He's just less obnoxious about it now.
Bitch is the same as the word nigga, the context defines whether its being used positively or negatively
Also white people should reserve their cultural judgement until after theyve resolved their own misogyny and racism
Also white people should reserve their cultural judgement until after theyve resolved their own misogyny and racism
Y'all in here forgetting Bro Country exists
This might be an interesting read for some of you as well
This might be an interesting read for some of you as well
Hmmmm
So non-black people can use n****r as long as it's used positively?
That's just plain whataboutism.
Bitch please.
Migos dominates that shit and nobody over the age of 24 knows who the fuck they are.
At least it seems to have gotten better since gangsta rap in the 90s. I remember thinking this was the most misogynistic song I ever heard before.
I love metal and it's a genre of rock. Not sure what you're trying to say?
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