Who Hates Kenobi More? Vader or Maul

[Z-Beat]

We're a few days from Kenobi so I thought this might be interesting

On one hand you have Vader who probably blames Kenobi for the death of Padme as much as he blames himself, and also might be slightly miffed about cutting off 75% of his limbs and leaving him to burn to death

Then you have Maul, who lost his legs, career, and his sanity, and ended up spending the next, what, 40 years hunting him?

Who do you think hates him more?

 

[ILikeFeet]

Maul, easily

Vader, deep down, never hated Obi Wan

 

[Hella]

Vader has too much self-loathing. Maul is 100% pure, blind hatred.

 

[julia crawford]

kenobiah? who is kenobiah?

 

[OtakuCoder]

Maul mellowed out in the end.

 

[Godfather]

Maul is a pure ball of rage

 

[Bishop89]

Vader never really hated him. He was just going full super saiyan Sith and was blinded.

 

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Maul, easily.

 

[yap]

gonna go for the guy who stalked obi--wan for nearly 5 decades

 

[spookyduzt]

Vader hated himself.

Maul hated KENOOOOOOBI!!

 

[Pandaman]

Maul. He made revenge his life. Vader knew Kenobi was alive the whole time and hunting him was a hobby at best for him.

 

[Verelios]

Maul. When Vader met Obi-Wan again he put him down and didn't think much about it beyond leaving spiteful remarks. Maul would have ragdolled his corpse and danced over it.

 

[ILikeFeet]

Maul mellowed out in the end.

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Maul mellowed out when he finally saw the bigger picture. but even then his hatred still drove him to seek out kenobi for a sense of finality

 

[KeyBladerXIII]

Maul mellowed out in the end.

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Maul absolutely did not mellow out in the end, he was borderline delusional and hysteric when he tracked him to Tatooine and then lept full force with his lightsaber to kill him. His last question to Obi Wan seems mellow but only because it was his last seconds when he was finally physically and emotionally spent.

 

[Smokeymicpot]

Maul. Dude would have cut off Obi-wans legs. Put them on his body and danced all over him.

 

[Shelbyville Milhouse]

I know people say the star wars cartoon show is supposed to be serious but that is an hilariously goofy looking gif

Actually, now that I think about it: both of them are

 

[Vashetti]

Then you have Maul, who lost his legs, career, and his sanity, and ended up spending the next, what, 40 years hunting him?

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gonna go for the guy who stalked obi--wan for nearly 5 decades

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Where are you guys getting these figures from? It was no where near that length of time.

 

[Deleted member 10560]

I'd say Vader but Old Ben is the poster child on "should've gone for the head".

 

[HamSandwich]

Absolutely Maul. Dude literally kept himself alive after being sliced in half because he hated Kenobi lol.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

It's Maul. Vader's hate is not as pure.

 

[egg]

If you've seen Clone Wars, it's Maul easily. Mauls hatred for Obi-Wan literally kept him alive.

I know people say the star wars cartoon show is supposed to be serious but that is an hilariously goofy looking gif

Actually, now that I think about it: both of them are

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That's not Clone Wars. This is Maul in Clone Wars.

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Absolutely Maul. Dude literally kept himself alive after being sliced in half because he hated Kenobi lol.

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YES EXACTLY LOL

 

[DarthMasta]

You need to have the memes with sound for it to make sense. It's Maul.

 

[404LinkNotFound]

From what i know Vader didnt spend every living second of his life post-burning trying to find obiwan again despite it being very likely Obiwan didnt die during the purge. He was busy hating himself.

Maul tho? basically did everything to get back at Kenobi after losing his legs. Maniulating governments, invasions, using people, creating criminal gangs, just to find Obiwan

 

[The Living Tribunal]

It's Maul and it's not even close.

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Definitely Vader.

A lot more emotional baggage there, especially after Anakin got the idea in his head that Obi-Wan and Padme were fraternizing shortly before the duel on Mustafar.

Maul is just your atypical broken ego revenge story. Obi-Wan humiliated him by beating him in a fair fight and it stung him deep. Not much complexity to that.

 

[Aly]

Being salty about Obiwan literally kept Maul alive.

 

[Retromess]

Me, because that show is pointless and shouldn't exist.

Eh probably Maul. His entire reason for being, post Phantom Menace, was revenge against Kenobi and then revenge against the Sith.

IN THAT ORDER. Kill Kenobi, then dismantle the Sith establishment.

 

[Trey]

Absolutely Maul. Dude literally kept himself alive after being sliced in half because he hated Kenobi lol.

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i was going to say, didn't his pure unending hate for Kenobi literally keep him alive with dark side force bullshit. could've swore it was similar to Darth Sion from kotor2

 

[egg]

Maul is just your atypical broken ego revenge story. Obi-Wan humiliated him by beating him in a fair fight and it stung him deep. Not much complexity to that.

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This is untrue, especially for what happens in Clone Wars.

 

[Hella]

i was going to say, didn't his pure unending hate for Kenobi literally keep him alive with dark side force bullshit. could've swore it was similar to Darth Sion from kotor2

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I think they said the same for Vader after his defeat in Episode 3, but maybe they walked that back.

Definitely Vader.

A lot more emotional baggage there, especially after Anakin got the idea in his head that Obi-Wan and Padme were fraternizing shortly before the duel on Mustafar.

Maul is just your atypical broken ego revenge story. Obi-Wan humiliated him by beating him in a fair fight and it stung him deep. Not much complexity to that.

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Maul is categorically broken and betrayed by Sith philosophy, and is basically the mirror image of the journey Obi-Wan has during the trilogies. Defeated, broken people rise to surpass their limits, but Maul is trapped by rage while Obi-wan is temprered by wisdom. The final battle between them has Maul repeating his old tricks, which Obi-wan has long surpassed.

It's a actually really well done, underscoring the true power of Jedi teaching.

 

[giancarlo123x]

Like others have said, maul literally lived because of pure hatred and revenge to kenobi

 

[Z-Beat]

Where are you guys getting these figures from? It was no where near that length of time.

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13 years between episode 1 and 3 and 19 years between 3 and 4. Maul got got closer to 4 iirc

 

[Hella]

13 years between episode 1 and 3 and 19 years between 3 and 4. Maul got got closer to 4 iirc

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The official timeline has it at exactly 30 years between A Phantom Menace and his death on Tattooine. (unless the wiki is lying to me)

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Mail spent ~55 years hating and then ultimately attempting to get revenge. Goddamn

 

[Z-Beat]

Absolutely Maul. Dude literally kept himself alive after being sliced in half because he hated Kenobi lol.

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Isn't that how Anakin survived being chopped up and burned alive for so long?

 

[Dragon Puncher]

Kenobi fucked up Maul and cut him in half. The only thing that kept him alive was pure hatred for his enemy. Then when he finally came back, Kenobi ruined his plans on multiple occasions again. He was like Maul's nemesis.

Vader just got fucked by Kenobi once and then kinda just let him stay hidden. If he truly hated him he would have searched for him more.

 

[butalala]

I know people say the star wars cartoon show is supposed to be serious but that is an hilariously goofy looking gif

Actually, now that I think about it: both of them are

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It's star wars, of course it's goofy

 

[GuessMyUserName]

Not even a question really, Maul is just generally much more filled with malice than Vader is and he explicitly targets that hatred at Obi-Wan for years.

It says a lot that the Anakin gif is from... literally the very moment Kenobi defeats him.

 

[Gunny T Highway]

 

[egg]

Isn't that how Anakin survived being chopped up and burned alive for so long?

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Kinda but no. Maul's hatred and desire was so strong that he mentally lost his mind and was consumed by the darkness in it for what 10-12 years. He was unstable and literally a torso walking around with scraps of metal as a body. Ani laid on a lava beach for 20 minutes and was picked up and given a new body. Maul was abandoned and broken, Anakin was rebuilt.

 

[Fisty]

Vader hated Obi-Wan like a little brother hates an asshole big brother

Maul hated Obi-Wan like a guy that chopped him in half

 

[DrScruffleton]

Definitely Maul. Vader had a leadership role and was in charge with what I assume a pampered life.

Maul was literally in trash with spider legs stewing in hate.

 

[hikarutilmitt]

Much as it seems like Maul, I feel like Vader/Anakin hates him more because he felt like a brother and mentor betrayed him along with the rest of the Jedi. He got a bit Zen about it by the time ANH rolls around to where he's just casually "yeah you're gonna die" about him, but hes's got to be harboring a whole lot of hate against him.

Kinda funny that both of them were amputated by Obi-wan. Star Wars universe loves to lop off limbs for the sake of it, though. Family-friendly violence my ass.

 

[Fisty]

Definitely Maul. Vader had a leadership role and was in charge with what I assume a pampered life.

Maul was literally in trash with spider legs stewing in hate.

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Vader I believe in canon was perpetually in pain and miserable while being constantly trolled by Palpatine, but yeah he did have contact with others and had something to occupy his time unlike Maul. The solitude would probably be worse imo

 

[Heynongman!]

Darth Maul literally survived on his hatred of Obi. Vader hates himself too much.

 

[DanSensei]

Maul survived TPM? I heard he was in shoes, but I assumed they took place before the prequels.

 

[Fj0823]

Maul started laughing like crazy over learning that Obi was not only alive, but in a position where he could kill him and everything he holds dear.

Maul conquered a planet just to kill Obi-Wan's girlfriend in front of him.

He literally survived being cut in half by fueling the dark side with his hatred for Obi.

Vader deep down is ashamed of failing Obi-Wan

 

[Sabercrusader]

Yeah.

One dedicated his entire life to tracking down and attempting to kill Kenobi.

The other got in an (admittedly), pretty heated altercation with him that I think ultimately he blames himself for more than anything.

 

[Calvin Leonard]

Vader was miserable, but content with who he was. Obi-Wan was just another Jedi waiting to be killed.

Maul was tracking Obi-Wan until his last day... literally

 

[Z-Beat]

Maul survived TPM? I heard he was in shoes, but I assumed they took place before the prequels.

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He got new shoes after they replaced his legs