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White/nonblack folks ruining black/AAVE slang and can never talk it

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Veridis Joe dropped this short video about white folks who have been able to appropriate and steal black fashion, trends, ways of life, music, struggles, but can never nail talking like a black person. Especially when it comes to slang. When white people start using the language, the shelf life is immediately reduced to near extinction within a month. They will run it into the ground. And then older folks will be confused about the rapid spread and misuse of the slang.
 
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These white streamers have been trying their hardest to make everything sound as lame and corny as possible
 
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the only people who can make slang work are people who already have a cool aura to them like hot people making shitty clothes look nice. normies trying to act cool is not cool. being cool should come naturally
 
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Pretty much every time a word like "rizz" or "bop" goes from something I encounter online occasionally to something I hear overused IRL it is white people, it is cringey and I'm rarely aware of its origins, Black/AAVE or otherwise. Not sure what a real solution is though because "talk like a normal person" is not something that would get through to the kind of people that adopt language like this in an effort to sound cool/relevant.
 
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There's a sign at Kwik Trip, a very midwestern line of convenience stores, advertising their new fried chicken with "this chicken has some serious rizz" and everybody has been cringing about it.

It's okay, Kwik Trip. You don't need to.
 
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Im just gonna use this thread to say it annoys me to no end when I see AAVE slang in the new york Times daily crossword puzzle referred to as "gen z slang"
 
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These white kids just come off like this, but with broccoli hair:
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Derbel McDillet

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For me it's the taking the terms and beating it to the ground. Followed by the condescending attitude some people toward that new slang while it's being forced by people who can't pull it off. And then if those terms are co-oped by right wing circles or "chuds", I now I have to hear from white people about how no one should use them.
 
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So thread title said white/ non black folks, but what if im half white and half black, do I somehow have a 50% chance of saying it a non white way?
Just always find stuff like this funny because ive been told my whole life i cant say X or Y because im too white or too black depending on who im talking to.
 
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Gay Bowser said:
There's a sign at Kwik Trip, a very midwestern line of convenience stores, advertising their new fried chicken with "this chicken has some serious rizz" and everybody has been cringing about it.

It's okay, Kwik Trip. You don't need to.
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lol This just reminded me of a time I saw a banner outside McDonald's about ten years ago with a Filet o Fish sandwich on it and text that said, "Fish on fleek."
 
Cipherr

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Man this video was amazing. I laughed so fucking hard at mock conversations. 😆

Edit: Yeah "Woke" got the worst of this though. Its surreal what happened with that word.
 
Era Uma Vez

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welcome to the internet being overunned by 14 year white kids trying to mimic their favorite black streamer/rapper/influencer.
 
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I don't understand this or maybe I'm nor looking it from the right angle.

If any group of people start saying slang and it catches on everyone is eventually going to start using it, then of course corporations are going to use it to market stuff.

As far as I know there is only one word completely banned.
 

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People, kids in particular, will mimic the media they and their social circles partake in. This is nothing new.
 
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There was a great interview with Sam Jackson years ago (maybe in print? Or some old Vanity Fair/GQ video?) where he said black people will always be the coolest people on the planet because they have humility. They are aware of themselves and don't have anything to lose essentially. Ever since I heard that interview, white kids stealing things from black culture has always felt so gross because there's no way these white kids have the same sense of struggle that formed this culture. And they don't have the ability to create slang on their own.

Like my son's white Canadian friend calling me "fam" and especially "cuh" on Xbox chat makes me bust out laughing AT him. 14 year old kid listens to Drake and Kendrick and immediately thinks that gives him an invite to the cookout.
 
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Have y'all tried just being lame? We're only stealing cause it's cool as fuck and we're jealous.

I'm definitely part of the problem, but it's an unconscious thing
 
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I swear I've been seeing "blud" all the time on Internet comments lately. Basically never saw it until a month ago, and now pretty much every Instagram post with comments has someone another person "blud", and I browse some of the whitest shit in all of Whitesville.
 
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Godfather said:
Have y'all tried just being lame? We're only stealing cause it's cool as fuck and we're jealous.

I'm definitely part of the problem, but it's an unconscious thing
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I'm definitely not immune to it. I mean, I grew up in a redneck town and gangster rap and later underground hip hop was a way for me to escape and differentiate myself from the redneck, white family members and their bland midwestern culture. Like, I use the term "dope" at least a dozen times a day, to this day.

Hrodulf said:
I swear I've been seeing "blud" all the time on Internet comments lately. Basically never saw it until a month ago, and now pretty much every Instagram post with comments has someone another person "blud", and I browse some of the whitest shit in all of Whitesville.
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Have you heard of "hood irony"? It's a form of meme that's literally white kids posting like they're old black men using the most basic old school gifs and African voices. It's racist as fuck and "blud" is basically a requirement in every video.

I think the surge of white kids saying "blud" is because of that.
 
Kamek

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I don't really know if it's a white thing necessarily. I'm from South Side Jamaica Queens - the white people here used slang effortlessly and I never batted my eyes twice at them. It's just how people talked.

I think it's more an authenticity thing?
 
Astral

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I actually kinda cringe every time I hear or see people say any variation of "it do be like that." It comes across as some white kid trying to be hood or some shit.
 
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Astral said:
I actually kinda cringe every time I hear or see people say any variation of "it do be like that." It comes across as some white kid trying to be hood or some shit.
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Yeah it's complicated. I'll usually give that one a pass because they're just quoting and old meme most of the time but like..

I'm very glad none of my white friends ever tried to figure out "finna".
 
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Yeah I've been noticing this more and more. "Finna" is a word I like never saw used online or heard from white people until maybe the last 5 years or so, but it's been used in hip hop since the 80s.
 
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Bio-Frost said:
So thread title said white/ non black folks, but what if im half white and half black, do I somehow have a 50% chance of saying it a non white way?
Just always find stuff like this funny because ive been told my whole life i cant say X or Y because im too white or too black depending on who im talking to.
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It could rub people the wrong way, sometimes it's just how it sounds coming from you. Theoretically, I can say the n word all I want, but I also recognize that it sounds awkward and forced coming from me so I don't.

But also from this perspective, I have a nephew with albinism. He is black. He probably should not say the n word when gets older. He theoretically can, but how do we think that's gonna play out?
 
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Nothing new, but you know slang is saturated and done when it becomes advertising. I've seen 3-4 rebrands/ad campains using "hit different" in the last 6 months. Starry, Knuckles the Hedgehog, etc.
 
Sleuth Semanticist

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yea this shit is annoying as hell. It used to feel like a gif, youtube, vine or a tweet would catch on and people would make references to it till they gradually faded from popularity, replaced by another reference. And yea those could get tiring fast too. But this phenomenon feels like that distilled to its most odious essence. Those 'meme' references tended to have pretty specific uses, nobody was just out there saying 'HE NEEDS HIS MILK' in everyday conversation like it meant something literal.

He hit the nail on the head with driving words into the ground. It's so much easier to shit out a year's worth of obnoxious internet references in a single sentence now that words themselves are more or less internet memes. New 'it' words seem to diffuse so quickly due to TikTok/short-form videos.
 
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Kamek said:
I don't really know if it's a white thing necessarily. I'm from South Side Jamaica Queens - the white people here used slang effortlessly and I never batted my eyes twice at them. It's just how people talked.

I think it's more an authenticity thing?
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I think people are drawn to language they find appealing.

I think half of it is completely innocent. It's one thing to try and mimic another culture as a form of mockery or to straight up steal it because it "sounds cool". But also, you can find yourself unintentionally speaking like another culture due to constant observation.

I'm a white ass German midwesterner but I've had customers on the phone think I'm Latino. Many of my closest friends were Mexican growing up and my best friend is Cuban, so I might have assimilated something.

Astral said:
I actually kinda cringe every time I hear or see people say any variation of "it do be like that." It comes across as some white kid trying to be hood or some shit.
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Oh Christ, there's Vtuber/underground rapper who says this all the fuckin time. She's from Texas and apparently a very middle class white family.

Then again, I'm not the first to point this out and she's been called out on appropriating black culture already.
 
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AAVE is peppered into my language. I touch on a lot of different social groups and interests, so my language is an absolute mutt of a thing.

The way to go about things with language imo is to just use what's been battle tested for a while to actually make sense, and not try too hard to sound like you're "with it". Show some respect, tbh. Trying to be cool at the cost of other shit will fucking ruin everything.
 
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Kamek said:
I don't really know if it's a white thing necessarily. I'm from South Side Jamaica Queens - the white people here used slang effortlessly and I never batted my eyes twice at them. It's just how people talked.

I think it's more an authenticity thing?
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That southern part of Queens played a large part in raising me. I know a lot of people I grew up with who were not Latino/Black/West Indian who can glide on through a conversations with it but you know, there's a time and place. If I'm linking up with them it's like we're 12 again.
 
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I sometimes catch myself typing modern slang only to delete it because I realize I'm the whitest person on the planet and 30+. Like, am I even allowed to type that? I can maybe get away with calling someone "bruh" but... who am I even kidding.

Astral said:
I actually kinda cringe every time I hear or see people say any variation of "it do be like that." It comes across as some white kid trying to be hood or some shit.
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See I actually say this a lot (to myself at least) but I'm genuinely not trying to be hood or something like that. I just listened people on YT say it (white people at that) and copied them.
 
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grumpybat said:
Nothing new, but you know slang is saturated and done when it becomes advertising. I've seen 3-4 rebrands/ad campains using "hit different" in the last 6 months. Starry, Knuckles the Hedgehog, etc.
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Yeah, that's usually the saturation point where we decide, "Yup, it's time to come up with a new word." Nothing kills slang more than when corporations start using it to sell products to the "youth demographic."

I'm in my mid 40's now, so I've reached a point where I generally have no idea what half of this shit is these days, and I still use "dope" to this day XD XD

I haven't reached the point where I've started calling folks "young blood" unironically yet, but I'm sure I'll get there, eventually lol
 
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