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Ukraine International Airlines jetliner was accidentally shot down by Iranian missiles (UP: corroborated by Canada, Iran admits to it)
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So this is what Trump was babbling about, questioning the explanation of mechanical failure. They must know more.
Ironically, this would actually be an overall negative for the White House since they ratcheted up tensions that led to this accident and I believe no Americans died in the crash.
I don't know that that's true, at least not here in the states. I think trump would use this as fuel to turn people against iran.
what "officials". i want to know who exactly is confident about what.
if iran says they didnt do it, unless we have unbiased views, nobody trust anything
if iran says they didnt do it, unless we have unbiased views, nobody trust anything
I'm surprised the government or the airport didn't shut down the airspace above the city. I remember watching one foreign correspondent reporting from Tehran that evening and thinking it was weird that commercial planes were flying in the sky behind him.
Why would we trust what US intelligence officials say when this country is on the cusp of war with Iran? It could very well have been shot down, but we should hear from agencies outside of the US and Iran. Neither country's intelligence can be trusted at this stage.
Western media is gonna use this to drum up the war propaganda and present the US as the good guys and iran as the bad guys. No one outside the internet bubble is gonna blame the US for this.
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Only sharing what credible news outlets are saying. I obviously can't independently confirm U.S. officials are being truthful.
Just like the ships that were sunk by Iran with little to no evidence? At this point I don't trust that they won't say whatever they want to justify Iran as the bad guys in this conflict.
When tensions are high, they shoot down planes similar in past. But what's the strategy here? Are they afraid it's carrying nukes? If spy plane, how much info can it gather that quickly where satellites wouldn't do better. Seems more rational to mobilize their own jet to meet up and confirm target.
As we learned in the run up to GWB's war with Iraq, these mainstream outlets have no credibility when the sabres start rattling.
Iran tends to be pretty strategic about its attacks. To what end does shooting down a Ukranian plane achieve?
If this were to be true, it's simply a gigantic horrible fuckup on Iran's part, probably due to automated systems without any manual interaction.
Trust the Trump administration and those working under them as far as I can trow them.
Gonna wait for some credible evidence or at least different countries reports.
Gonna wait for some credible evidence or at least different countries reports.
I was legit surprised when Trump didn't come right out and blame Iran from the start...I thought for sure he would.
Sorry state of affairs when no one trusts US intelligence. I thought that the timing was a little suspicious given that the 747 crashed at the exact same time that Iran fired all those missiles at US targets. I assume it's just sheer incompetence on the part of Iran's military because the majority of civilians who died in the crash were Iranian.
Would explain the video of the plane with a flash before a rapid descent. I thought the missiles had already finished firing though? If the plane was targeted specifically then I'm not sure why Iran would do that. Nothing to gain, bar the low chance of pissing off America's allies for 'causing' the deaths of their citizens by instigating this whole mess.
CBC News Alerts @CBCAlerts
BREAKING: U.S. officials have shared intelligence with Canada to back up the view that it's 'highly likely' tjat Ukrainian International Airlines Flight 752 was brought down by an Iranian missile, sources tell CBC News.
12:39 PM - Jan 9, 2020
BREAKING: U.S. officials have shared intelligence with Canada to back up the view that it's 'highly likely' tjat Ukrainian International Airlines Flight 752 was brought down by an Iranian missile, sources tell CBC News.
12:39 PM - Jan 9, 2020
Maybe because some military person who doesn't have civilian flight paths memorized panicked when they saw a low altitude blip on the radar?
I don't trust 'US officials' as far as I can toss them. I'll wait for trusted governments not run by orange morons to chime in.
Iran's air defenses would have been on high alert looking for retaliation. It's plausible that someone accidentally read the plane as an incoming threat.
They wouldn't do it on purpose. Anti-air systems are reactionary and fast by necessity, a false positive with the system believing there's very little time to act would lead to this kind of error.
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