Talk to TheMoon but if you need aproval I know you are good sport and you will do your best, also if you want support let me know!
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Just double confirm with Moon and should be all good. If you need any assistance or like to collab on any art or related on the Persona 3 one (my favorite Persona game <3) give me a shout :)
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Oh wait so it's just "likely" 2018? That's not how you sold it in the PM :D
I don't wanna research all y'alls game dates. Are all of tehse actually announced as 2018?
The more the merrier - I'll welcome your contributions! :)
Spring 2018 for mine, actually. Didn't remember it had been that specific.
Haha, it's definitely going to be out in less than a year as I said (it's a port of an older game and the constant teasing prior). If it doesn't come out in a post year then I shall change my avatar or eat my hat! But if it's indeed legit after a year from now then I am happy for this to be void.
Catherine's damn too awesome of a game I am passionate about to not get my hands on and give the OT a damn good job :P
Uhm... I don't know about bending the rules because the passion of someone for certain games, likely unfair for others, plus OTs are not vanity, they are for building up community, also there's no actual evidence that says "50% done" not that I have seen it.
I think it should remain unclaimed until further notice.
EDIT. I just saw indeed the 50% complete, however the release date is not confirmed for 2018
I think it should remain unclaimed until further notice.
EDIT. I just saw indeed the 50% complete, however the release date is not confirmed for 2018
It has to be specific, if it's a year from your claim, you can't since it can be delayed etc, spring 2018 is totally fine tho
I wouldn't say this was claimed for vanity reasons by any means or the definition there considering this is made purely for the community - hence this topic - and already made the posts to shout to some of the peeps to join and collab with this already so currently on default to get the ball rolling there. I am pretty excited to see where this online gaming features this will bring (but this is better discussed in the thread of this already) and getting the information across well and related. Got to make sure to get all the best points across with what this game is.
But this is definitely going to be out in less than a year with the progress already. A little preemptive out of excitement but if Moon is happy with this and future basis to be more careful I'm happy to continue with how the default is done seeing with the former and check up! Can't see anyone being hurt out of this with what's been done :)
But this is definitely going to be out in less than a year with the progress already. A little preemptive out of excitement but if Moon is happy with this and future basis to be more careful I'm happy to continue with how the default is done seeing with the former and check up! Can't see anyone being hurt out of this with what's been done :)
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By vanity I mean claiming you by special rules because you want it, maybe others want it too, and they can claim it by normal rules like everyone does.
I don't know, it can be released next year, the thing is when, if it's fall you are far out then.
And I believe it hurts when someone decides to claim, let's say "final fantasy 7 remake"
They can't, because the rules say not until a good release date.
"But you did with this guy"
Then what?
I do believe that the game will be released next year as well, the thing is when, and I don't know how to feel when I have to time my claims and wait if anyone can get special claims because they like the game a lot, seems unfair.
I don't know, it can be released next year, the thing is when, if it's fall you are far out then.
And I believe it hurts when someone decides to claim, let's say "final fantasy 7 remake"
They can't, because the rules say not until a good release date.
"But you did with this guy"
Then what?
I do believe that the game will be released next year as well, the thing is when, and I don't know how to feel when I have to time my claims and wait if anyone can get special claims because they like the game a lot, seems unfair.
I have no horses in this race but I'm fairly certain it'll be out before December 19, 2018 so he's within the boundaries to claim it imo
Sure, yet not a release date.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ either rules need a rework or this is stepping outside.
EDIT: First paragraph of the OT OT
- Not OK: It's E3 2005 and you want to claim a new game announced for "2006"
- OK: It's E3 2005 and you want to claim a new game announced for Q1 2006
There's just the "it's half done" but not a margin or a release window :/
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But it's not a guarantee, right?
I'd at least wait until the live stream and see if a more sold date is given.
If we do not follow rules, we're no better than the animals we once were.
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Guys guys guys.
Lay of the land.
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There's no point in being "first" anyway. As I said multiple times, and I believe I put it in the OP as well, this is not "race" where the first one gets the prize and the other are wiiubehindrainywindow.jpg - as soon as someone else wants to collab, you gotta collab anyway. No matter if you claimed first or someone else claimed first and you then say "hey I wanted to..." - that's how this whole thing has always worked. So there's really no rush.
So no, the Catherine claim is a no-go as of now. That might change with the livestream next week if they nail it down.
I'll finally try to get the OP rewrite done over the holiday break, hopefully making some things clearer and stuff.
edit: full disclosure - I just put myself down a few days ago for that Sushi Striker 3DS game that got announced this year at E3 for "2018." With this scenario, it had a clear 2018 date from the get-go and there's 0 chances of a delay due to the nature of the game and platform.
Lay of the land.
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So I just looked into this. There's no date announced. As I mentioned in one of the other PM responses, we don't do guesstimate dates. It, at the very least, needs a year. Not "I feel it in my bones" but from the horse's mouth. Otherwise we might as well claim like it's the wild west again.
There's no point in being "first" anyway. As I said multiple times, and I believe I put it in the OP as well, this is not "race" where the first one gets the prize and the other are wiiubehindrainywindow.jpg - as soon as someone else wants to collab, you gotta collab anyway. No matter if you claimed first or someone else claimed first and you then say "hey I wanted to..." - that's how this whole thing has always worked. So there's really no rush.
So no, the Catherine claim is a no-go as of now. That might change with the livestream next week if they nail it down.
I'll finally try to get the OP rewrite done over the holiday break, hopefully making some things clearer and stuff.
edit: full disclosure - I just put myself down a few days ago for that Sushi Striker 3DS game that got announced this year at E3 for "2018." With this scenario, it had a clear 2018 date from the get-go and there's 0 chances of a delay due to the nature of the game and platform.
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Thanks for the clarification Moon. I'm happy to have it back to default to keep order here as what a kerfuffle this stirred haha! My bad folks :P At least hopefully wont be long until the actual date is revealed to go forward from there!
cj_iwakura would you like to do the OT since you did the OT on the previous site? More than happy for you to take this because of your work already done prior before with the community with this game :)
cj_iwakura would you like to do the OT since you did the OT on the previous site? More than happy for you to take this because of your work already done prior before with the community with this game :)
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Starting now, I've added a new requirement to the OP and updated the formatting to reflect it:
Provide a source for the release date. No educated guesstimates or speculation. As official as possible, please.
Provide a source for the release date. No educated guesstimates or speculation. As official as possible, please.
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[b]TITLE[/b] by [url=LINK TO YOUR RESETERA PROFILE]USERNAME[/URL] ([url=LINK TO YOUR CLAIMS POST]TODAY'S DATE[/url])
[URL=LINK TO OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE SOURCE no speculation]RELEASE DATE[/URL]
What we will do is put my name down when the date comes and whatever you feel you like I will go with and what is best for the community (can change the by thread). We'll discuss by PM from there :)
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remember: the person posting the thread should put the claim in (or update me if it changes!), as that is whose profile page I will be checking once the post date comes to see if it's been posted.
Same problem as Catherine, no real date, in fact, it was pushed back in October.
And again, calling dibs on Catherine OT is pretty much agains this whole paragraph
Wait until the official release date to plan anything and dont flood the OT
Thanks dude
I've already checked with Moon on this and been approved and goes with the rules and everyone is happy with Catherine for when the the date comes (even the original dude who did the OT back on the old prior site) so I don't see what your issue is?
EDIT: Moon can you please confirm or happy to bring in a Mod/Admin to check all this?
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Please just remember the bit about this not being a race. You don't need to push it with claiming a bunch of "2018" games now. It's fine to wait until there is a more concrete date or a month or even a quarter. Nobody can take anything away from anyone anyway.^^
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Slightly revised:
Playing with the idea of turning the 1-year-out rule into a 6-months-out rule or something like that as well.
SOME BRIEF GUIDELINES ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO CLAIM HERE:
Playing with the idea of turning the 1-year-out rule into a 6-months-out rule or something like that as well.
SOME BRIEF GUIDELINES ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO CLAIM HERE:
- You're making a commitment to work on it.
- You'll update us if you change your mind. (Or when a release date changes)
- If you choose to make a thread on someone else's behalf you are solely responsible for it.
- Posting an OT is taking on a responsibility to maintain it, too. Don't just post one, cash in the praise, then dash. Keep it updated if other posters bring up valuable info to collect and share. Make sure things are accurate.
- If somebody has already claimed an OT that you also wanted to work on, collaborate with each other. Claiming an OT is not a race to be first to exclude others. Collaboration is mandatory if multiple people want to work on an OT! This is not first come first served! Claiming is about preventing two people wasting their time making dueling threads, it's not about excluding others.
- Be reasonable - claims are to only be made for games/etc officially announced as releasing within the next twelve months (aka the 1-year-out rule). No TBA or "coming soon" type stuff. No educated guesstimates or speculation. Provide a source for the release date. As official as possible, please.
Those rules are great to update.
How does the idea of existing long running game series that have good communities on here already, with any future title announcements they must first ask within said ad related community topics with the thumbs up from said people and acknowledged before posting here and claiming? That way the communities can be involved with the process and collaboration and have the right mind set than any person who doesn't generally get involved or are active in this area or regular threads of related series/title. I do think the idea of someone wishing to do OTs without alerting or approval to said areas is not the right way of doing things.
Example of this:
Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night by purseowner (19/12/17)
Release: 2018
Gaming Community: Persona ERA (approved by member 1, member 2, member 3)
Collab members: User 1, User 2
This would be a more clearer/healthy way of long titles and series that many of us here are very passionate and love about and give the right voices and effort to those who are active in participating and are acknowledged with approval and nice transparency.
How does the idea of existing long running game series that have good communities on here already, with any future title announcements they must first ask within said ad related community topics with the thumbs up from said people and acknowledged before posting here and claiming? That way the communities can be involved with the process and collaboration and have the right mind set than any person who doesn't generally get involved or are active in this area or regular threads of related series/title. I do think the idea of someone wishing to do OTs without alerting or approval to said areas is not the right way of doing things.
Example of this:
Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night by purseowner (19/12/17)
Release: 2018
Gaming Community: Persona ERA (approved by member 1, member 2, member 3)
Collab members: User 1, User 2
This would be a more clearer/healthy way of long titles and series that many of us here are very passionate and love about and give the right voices and effort to those who are active in participating and are acknowledged with approval and nice transparency.
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That sounds a bit too convoluted/involved to me. Plus more importantly, "approval" conditions would bring exclusion back into this in a big way. Which is what I just tried to make clear in the revised guidelines was not a thing. A community can't just go "nah, I don't approve of X doing the OT" and what then? Think of it this way, nobody would ever let me do an OT again because people hate my titles and my obnoxious yelling about reading the OPs. :) Seriously, though, the communities with their inner circles and all that can always get involved anyway. They just need to step up and say "Hey, I want to collab on this" and boom, there ya go. As soon as more than one person want to work on an OT, the collaboration is on unless someone decides to drop out again.
Fair play man. I can see your point when you put it that way and having simple with someone putting their name down and then others replying to collab and going from there will lead to the same destination as well. The whole community side and that is something of a hard complex one though.
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you do it or you go here https://www.resetera.com/threads/so...dopt-a-user-program-video-games-edition.2891/
this thread is not a request bar. :)
("read OP" isn't part of the thread's title for fun, btw!)
This is exclusion part 2.
OTs are for the community by the community, being part of a community should not be "approved" by any other member.
Like, me, a total random who is in a community just because I say NO to the good will of an user.
Come on.
None, what's yours?
Anyhow, chill, you were off the limits of the OT policy and got revised, if you have any problems outside of that, your call, keep this civil if you can.
Catherine: Full Body by Luulubuu (22/12/2017)
RELEASE DATE:Next Winter
RELEASE DATE:Next Winter
I would rather make it 6 months, so you can avoid the whole "201X" thing or the "I'm pretty sure"s if you have a 6 month margin you are
- Probably focused on making it
- Aware of the date, will not forget about it
- if something changes, you have plenty of window to move
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Claimed already, but if you want to collab hit me up in the PM, also you are missing the evidence link
I claimed prior before and collaborating with the previous existing OT. I don't wish to collab with you due to personal concerns and you know what you was doing here when I expressed clearly on everything prior. Will keep this civil and PM Sweet Nicole on this one.
Wait, did you had like a preorder or something or a pre claim? Is that allowed somehow? If you have then of course, its yours, but does the rules reflect on this?
User has been warned: brings offsite drama into the thread in an attempt to villify another user.
Sadly Luu knows what she was doing here and with my personal opinions of her off this site due to bullying and harassment. This is why I can't collaborate with her and got to escalate this out of concern and it's a shame this is why,
EDIT: I have messaged Zhuge and Sweet Nicole to get this addressed.
Same, since public stuff is now a thing and I have to discuss this too.
she knows what she was doing: respecting the rules. she respects them so much that she even offered to colab, despite your supposedly saying she has problems with you.
and really, "luu knows my personal opinions of her", and you actually spins this on victim blaming?
it's not a matter of being first. it's a matter of doing the whole process of "getting" an OT right.
I accept blame for the rules not done being correct and that is my fault and own up to it. My passion and excitement for this project got the better of me and wanting to do this but personal conflict and all that got the better judgement.
I shouldn't have mentioned any personal involvement or conflict so I will apologies for this. I am in the wrong in regards to jump with rules and getting heated/too excited for this.
Out of respect of everything I will stand down on the Catherine OT and wish everyone well to collab here :)
I shouldn't have mentioned any personal involvement or conflict so I will apologies for this. I am in the wrong in regards to jump with rules and getting heated/too excited for this.
Out of respect of everything I will stand down on the Catherine OT and wish everyone well to collab here :)
Yes< I believe OT's should be made with care and passion as bad OT's can deter visitors. Luu has made some pretty fancy OT's if I do say so myself.
The Gold edition is a good one so I know it will be done good. She followed all the rules correctly and my own selfish desire for doing the OT and saying upfront and wanting to involve other people got the better of me. I apologies on that and I am in the wrong not following procedure correctly. Too much wasted energy when should be focused on talking about the game instead and can do in there.
All the best on the OT Luu and sorry for being too worked up with it. Will keep all this on point and rules followed.
ResetEra is NOT another battlefield for your offsite feuds. Bums me out to see users behaving this way to each other.
Back to the topic.
Back to the topic.
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Not just based on this recent confusion and back-and-forth, the OT claim window will move to a six-month-window from now on. This will avoid sooo many problems for all parties: delay chaos, hype claims, bans, keeping track of release date announcements ("year" to "quarter" to "month" to "delay" to "actual date"), people forgetting, overly long list, people losing interest, including newer members, and probably a bunch more. Goes for everything tied to release dates. As usual, random community threads don't even really need to be claimed but those who still do it can do so whenever as dates are a non-issue there.
Everyone is free to take personal notes on what OTs they would want to claim so they don't forget. Besides, it's not like anyone starts working on them a year out lol.
Everyone is free to take personal notes on what OTs they would want to claim so they don't forget. Besides, it's not like anyone starts working on them a year out lol.
Sounds good, with all the right arguments!
Does it include Catherine? ;)
edit: does it applies to import threads too?