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The Krakoa Era of X-Men |OT| Mutant Massacre (Open Spoilers after issues drop)
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The thing is the no precog rule Honestly applies to Destiny. Or to put it another way, the person that Moira is afraid of his destiny.
And the truth of the matter is she's only afraid of Destiny because she thinks Destiny is going to kill her again. Destiny told her how many lives she would have and she's technically on the last of those. Not including the potential for one more life.
But Destiny already told her she Bears her no ill will. Unless she is not helping the mutant cause.
So that makes me think... Moria isn't on our side.
And the truth of the matter is she's only afraid of Destiny because she thinks Destiny is going to kill her again. Destiny told her how many lives she would have and she's technically on the last of those. Not including the potential for one more life.
But Destiny already told her she Bears her no ill will. Unless she is not helping the mutant cause.
So that makes me think... Moria isn't on our side.
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Told you guys this was going to go somewhere!
(Probably still a ruse to fuck Shaw, but still)
Wasn't the condition Destiny gave her for the last life that she'd die before gaining her powers eventually?
Why are leaping ahead to #11? I know it says May 2020, but what's happening in between?
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so where in the timeline is F4/X-Men? because she's clearly alive there...I had assumed it was after she was brought back and we just hadn't seen it yet....
unless this is all a ploy for Shaw and they're playing like she's gone but she's really back in hiding plotting some shit
Yeah this was also my take away from that conversation.
Watch Charles and Moira planning to have Krakoa ascend into a digitized black hole super civilization in the final Dawn of X event or some insane shit like that.
Yeah, no way Marvel doesn't milk "THE DEATH OF KATE PRYDE" marketing for months before.
She said she wouldd have 10 lives maybe 11 if she made the right choice at the end.
She pointed out if she died with no mutant gene active that would be it as well. Well, there is still a weaponized mutant cure out there.
Yeah, I think most of Mystique's clothing/costume is just an affectation on her part.
I also thought it wa a neat little jewel she wore, not aesthetic flesh she molds herself lol
I appreciated that today's issue of X-Men really drove home how the Council is several layers of fuckery stacked atop one another. Charles, Erik, and Mystique may as well keep a big chart with a running tally of slimy statements they each make.
I am also a bit impressed that even Beast's journal entries make me go "Oh, Hank, you pompous ass!"
I am also a bit impressed that even Beast's journal entries make me go "Oh, Hank, you pompous ass!"
Apoc & Exodus pulled rank in Excalibur, too - shit is fucked very consistently
Oh, definitely. I anticipate plenty more "Council stuff, I don't need to explain shit" justifications getting under other mutants' skins in the issues to come.
I thought all that psy link stuff in the assault on Mother Mold was not only for communication but to keep the team connected to Cerebro for backuping.
But X-men #6 says otherwise, they were bring back from the lastest backup before leaving.
So they don't remember the assault?
But X-men #6 says otherwise, they were bring back from the lastest backup before leaving.
So they don't remember the assault?
This. I thought the same thing. Unless they lied to everyone? Or lied to Mystique only?
To be fair they all died pretty horribly..... plus while we know they do backups, do they skip deaths? There is a lot of potential for fuckery if Mutants don't remember say 2 hours before their death.
My guess is they backed up Mystique from the old backup so they could continue to string her along
This is my thinking, Mystique is the last person they would want being able to predict their next move.
Do as much as you can to confuse and disorient her while you can would be priority #1.
I honestly would be surprised if thed don't have multiple backups at several points in time just so they can restore from a manegable one in case they need it, which they surely will when talking about Mystique or Sinister... or Magneto... or Apocalypse... or Xavier, or anyone really.
I like Mystique a lot as a character but I don't root for her, but I just know I will enjoy when hypocrites Mags and Xavier get what's coming to them
I like Mystique a lot as a character but I don't root for her, but I just know I will enjoy when hypocrites Mags and Xavier get what's coming to them
You know a shapeshifter is a hard thing to kill. I would love if they ended up with two of her..... if anyone could mess everything up it would be two Mystiques with a grudge.
I definitely think they revived an earlier copy on purpose. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep killing her and reviving that old backup just to keep her from getting too angry over Irene not coming back. When it comes to Moira stuff, I think any and all rules or morality is off the table for Xavier and Magneto.
Yeah they were not being back up "live"...plus that's why post-resurrection Scott ask if the mission worked...since he witnessed Nightcrawler and Wolverine take out the last mooring and sending Mother mold into the sun, before he died...he wouldn't need to ask if he was being uploaded in real-time
Considering they had Cerebro on one end and an Omega-level telepath (Jean) on the other, I assume their telepathic radio waves were meeting somewhere in the middle rather than Cerebro actually reaching each individual mutant.
So the line was sufficient for communication but not for backups, and we know from X-Force that Jean wasn't familiar with the backup process anyway.
I don't know if telepathic communication has the concept of bandwidth, but since Hickman is leaning into the cloud computing angle for the backup process, I would venture that they wanted to keep other processes out of the communication channel to keep it clean.
So the line was sufficient for communication but not for backups, and we know from X-Force that Jean wasn't familiar with the backup process anyway.
I don't know if telepathic communication has the concept of bandwidth, but since Hickman is leaning into the cloud computing angle for the backup process, I would venture that they wanted to keep other processes out of the communication channel to keep it clean.
New Mutants preview is great: https://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2020/02/13/exclusive-marvel-preview-new-mutants-7/
Hey I just realized remember in the Apocalypse time line where most Mutant we're living in space except for Apocalypse and the Horsemen. Is New Mutants laying the ground work for something similar?
It seems so. I thought the Shi'ar sector/station was the same name as the place the mutants were living in the previous timeline.
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT NOTIFICATION:
The Marvel's Voices one-shot coming out this Wednesday is going to feature a story by Vita Ayala and Bernard Chang (the same creative team as the upcoming Children of the Atom book), starring Forge and Shuri in what looks to essentially be Wacky Races: Marvel Edition!
The Marvel's Voices one-shot coming out this Wednesday is going to feature a story by Vita Ayala and Bernard Chang (the same creative team as the upcoming Children of the Atom book), starring Forge and Shuri in what looks to essentially be Wacky Races: Marvel Edition!
Sorry, I got my titles mixed up. I meant Battle of Atom. I'm interested in previous X-Men events. I finished Age of Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix recently, and I'm interested in reading a more recent event.
BotA caught my eye. Is it any good? XvA and IvX were other choices but I looked up some reviews and they weren't too favorable.
Sunk cost fallacy, maybe?
Perhaps they didn't want to cancel an announced launch title even after they got a look at the first couple of issues in the pipeline.
The pitch probably evolved a techno-God, exploring Revanche's backstory and giving loner characters like Laura and Cable a team style book.
The techno God thing goes well into the story Hickman was setting up.
Exploring the new Psylocke works good for establishing a new status quo.
And taking on Lura, Cable and others who didn't have an official team book would help keep those characters into the forefront.
The problem is the actual execution of all that plus Bryan Hill's desire to suddenly move on to other projects left a disjointed experience that just never came into focus.
By issue 3 it was obvious that Bryan Hill wasn't interested in the idea anymore and then it was all about getting enough issues out to make a trade.
Yeah, it's a pretty cool run. Hope Carrey manages to write an X-Men series down the line.
I've also caught on the the Gillen run and that was pretty cool too, although you have to suffer Greg Land's art.