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The Flash’ Disappoints With $55 Million Debut, Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Flops With $29.5 Million in Battle of Box Office Lightweights
- Thread starter Bor Gullet
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The Fantastic Four were the foundation of the Marvel Universe as we know it. No way they fuck this up.
Poster #1: "I didn't see any marketing for <Movie> whatsoever!"
Poster #1 in another thread: "I never watch TV anymore and I always have uBlock Origin running in my browser"
Poster #2: "$200 million budgets for Pixar movies is crazy!"
Poster #2 in another thread: "Disney laid off over a hundred Pixar staff just to outsource animation overseas? Fuck those greedy corporate assholes. Hope everyone lands on their feet."
Poster #1 in another thread: "I never watch TV anymore and I always have uBlock Origin running in my browser"
Poster #2: "$200 million budgets for Pixar movies is crazy!"
Poster #2 in another thread: "Disney laid off over a hundred Pixar staff just to outsource animation overseas? Fuck those greedy corporate assholes. Hope everyone lands on their feet."
Dood you gotta stop sifting through my post history. It's rood.
I think it's too early to be calling Wish a bomb, Disney's Musicals tend to be big money earners and Encanto still holds the record for an Original IP debut in animation, and that's with it also being announced to be on Disney Plus on Christmas Day as it was releasing in cinema. And Wish has a similar Thanksgiving Weekend slot to Encanto. I imagine Disneys Marketing will include one of the bigger songs of the film, if that breaks out like the Encanto soundtrack did, it'll should see success.
But it is the case original IP has been struggling, after Encanto the next best debut for Original IP in animation has been... Elemental. Huh. Yeah that sorta puts into perspective how much Original IP is struggling at the moment.
And if Wish can't do it, the next original IP after that is Illuminations Migration which... well, reading the Wiki it's sounds like a generic road trip film setup with ducks and a lot of Celebrity Voice Acting, so that really could go either way depending on how good Illumination marketing campaign goes. No established IP for that one to fall back on though so that'll have to rely on the Illumination name alone.
But it is the case original IP has been struggling, after Encanto the next best debut for Original IP in animation has been... Elemental. Huh. Yeah that sorta puts into perspective how much Original IP is struggling at the moment.
And if Wish can't do it, the next original IP after that is Illuminations Migration which... well, reading the Wiki it's sounds like a generic road trip film setup with ducks and a lot of Celebrity Voice Acting, so that really could go either way depending on how good Illumination marketing campaign goes. No established IP for that one to fall back on though so that'll have to rely on the Illumination name alone.
Main reason they keep most of the animation local rather than outsourcing overseas.
uhhh is there a Flash OT?
haha was considering checking it out tonight but curious on the impressions
haha was considering checking it out tonight but curious on the impressions
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i'm torn. i'm weirdly in the mood for some trash since its $5 tuesdays
I for one would love to see Jesus square off against Bill the Butcher.
The Flash spoiler thread - let's go nuts.
Movie's out today in Europe at least, just home from it. THERAPY DOG IS THE BEST DOG. For me it was the best credits roll sequence in Marvel or DC movie history. And that's about the best thing the movie's got going for it, tbh.
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Well if you're in the mood go for it. I didn't like it but at least I wasn't bored.
It's directed by Benjamin Renner who also directed Ernest and Celestine so I'm hoping that bodes well for it's quality compared to Illumination's usual output.
Benjamin Renner the only reason I haven't fully written it off yet to be honest. Which means the characters might not be terrible, the plot setup is pretty basic though.
Saw it earlier too, had a lot of fun as well. I was literally the only person in the screen. This was at 2pm on a day where town was packed and plenty of kids had finished school already. Can't say I was upset I was alone in the screen, made it even better tbh haha.
Well, you know what they say, "Great characters can save a bad plot but a great plot can't save bad characters".
Some of the animation looks rough but I just watched the official trailer a user posted and it actually looks really interesting!
That seems to be the pattern. This and Strange World hasn't been getting a bigger marketing push, leading to low sales. It's no secret Disney's marketing is all put into established IPs like Star Wars.
Elemental will end up making more than Flash in the states.
That Monday number is horrendous. Its going to sink so fast
That Monday number is horrendous. Its going to sink so fast
Sorry that Guardians 3 did so well, I remember you actively rooting for it to fail.
As long as they're good, people will go. As long as they're Ant Man 3, Shazam 2, or The Flash, people…. Won't go lol.
Migration probably has a budget of like $80 million. I doubt there's a chance of it bombing hard.
Has illumination even had a bomb?
Hop maybe? I don't think it's a bomb since it made $184m off a $63m budget but it's by far their worst performing film and their worst reviewed critically. They haven't attempted Live Action Hybrids since because of it (Which is probably for the best)
Secret Life Of Pets also had a massive drop from it's first film ($885m) to it's second ($430m) but it only had a budget of $80m so again can't really call that a bomb.
There's a reason why NIntendo went with them for the Mario film, they were easily the safest choice in making money in Hollywood at the moment. Even if Critially they've never really stood out. Landing consistently in that 50s-60s range on Rotten Tomatoes is somewhat impressive though. Consistant mediocrity.
Illumination plays it very safe.
They struck gold with Minions and half of their top 10 films have them in it. 3 films are based on established ip (Grinch, Lorax, Mario). Sing and SLOP have been their biggest hits outside of those (SLOP 2 was a big disappointment).
Replace Ezra with Tom Cruise
good idea, replace one bad person with another
OP
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Never mind being done with WB, Ezra's Hollywood career is over right? Can't see any studios wanting to deal with them. They might have to head to Europe or do small indie movies since there will always be productions willing to work with creeps.
I hope we get Wally West someday, even if it's a DCU canon tv show or a team movie.
I hope we get Wally West someday, even if it's a DCU canon tv show or a team movie.
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I don't know how I got here… something to do with Spider-Man.
