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Meows

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Someone earlier mentioned that they saw the weaponized hyperdrive as some sort of MAD thing that everyone knew could happen but chose not to do so because it was uncontrollable and would just destroy everything if every single person did it. I like that idea tbh.
 

KidKompromat

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She's Vietnamese but kk

She was fine, she had a crush on Finn, it wasn't a romance. Her character is inoffensive at worst.

She's viet sure. Looks Chinese. Still very much apart of hollywoods conscious effort to pander to China's box office. Not saying that's a bad thing, Asians in cinema are all good, but doesn't change the fact that she's bad at acting.
 

Drencrom

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Well to be fair even before she really knew him she's already infatuated with him with his status as a hero and everything, you know.

And also during the kiss, even Finn's face was like, WTF just happened, lol.

Just because the "romance" was weird even to the characters involved in the film doesn't make it any better or less out of place. The fact that the whole irrelevant Casino/Code Breaker subplot basically just amounted to them "bonding" makes it worse.

Contemplate murdering his nephew in his sleep and pout at the edge of the galaxy for the rest of his days I guess?

Yup...
 

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Yeh she was bad. And no I didn't realize she was American nor does it matter. I still think adding a Chinese lookin girl was to pander to Chinese box offices.
Please think about how what you just said makes no sense at all. And comes across as VERY racist.

Vietnamese and Chinese people do. not. look. the same.

You think Chinese people think Vietnamese people are the same as them???

No one in China is going to think Rose is Chinese. Your post is all kinds of racist dude. You really should think about what you are saying.
 
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It was also there for Finn to affirm his commitment to the rebellion. And to show us the kind of person Rose is, because hey she's a character too. And to give us the payoff of the slave kid at the end. Not irrelevant at all.

Well, the movie made a point that the slave kid was inspired by Luke's stand off against the FO though, and not by anything Finn and Rose did, so I suppose even if he never met Finn and Rose there the outcome would be largely the same excepting he didn't have a ring? Hahaha.
 

LionPride

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Man I only know a few Vietnamese peeps but uh....they don't look Chinese

And thinkin that Chinese people are gonna not be able to tell different ethnecities...

que?
 
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Well, the movie made a point that the slave kid was inspired by Luke's stand off against the FO though, and not by anything Finn and Rose did, so I suppose even if he never met Finn and Rose there the outcome would be largely the same excepting he didn't have a ring? Hahaha.

Yep they didn't set the Fathiers free, showing those kids their first real-world example of an act of rebellion.
 

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And I'm taking a gentle shot at Hollywoods pandering to China while I'm at it.
Your "gentle shot" is blatant racism though. She is not Chinese. No one in China is going to look at her and think she is Chinese. Her casting is NOT pandering to China because adding someone who is Vietnamese is not Chinese.

It's like saying casting an Irish man in a movie is a move to pander to "the French". It's absurd.
 
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Well, the movie made a point that the slave kid was inspired by Luke's stand off against the FO though, and not by anything Finn and Rose did, so I suppose even if he never met Finn and Rose there the outcome would be largely the same excepting he didn't have a ring? Hahaha.

The scene existed to introduce the slave kid instead of just having some kid that we never saw before show up in the end.
 

Garjon

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I saw it today and I really liked it. They finally turned Luke into a character and not some goody-two shoes golden boy. Outside of some contrivances that I'll let slide because it's a Star Wars film, the only sequence I didn't like was the casino part. It seemed like it existed purely to get some character/relationship development in and its message was a bit overstated. There was a payoff towards the end, I suppose but it doesn't really redeem it. The choreography of the Elite Guard battle was a bit rubbish too; super-trained fighters who suddenly lose the will to fight at random moments.

Mark Hamill blew me away with his acting too, I was not expecting that from him.
 
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Yep they didn't set the Fathiers free, showing those kids their first real-world example of an act of rebellion.

Well I suppose the kid would be feeling gratified by that, sure.

Also, what do you think about the scene of those animals rampaging through town in the context of her dramatic line in the end about "not destroying what we hate but saving what we love". I feel like her saying that destroying the whole city is "worth it" is in direct contrast with that, I feel like it's an act that can be described as "destroying what we hate", how it'd worth it to do such act. What do you think?
 

KidKompromat

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Please think about how what you just said makes no sense at all. And comes across as VERY racist.

Vietnamese and Chinese people do. not. look. the same.

You think Chinese people think Vietnamese people are the same as them???

No one in China is going to think Rose is Chinese. Your post is all kinds of racist dude. You really should think about what you are saying.


Here's a plot twist for you. I'm Asian. I grew up around Asians. I have a lot of Asian friends (viet, Chinese, Filipino, Cambodian). I dated a viet girl. I dated a Chinese girl. Filipino. And she looked Chinese to me. And at dinner with all my Chinese cousins they thought she was Chinese too.

Era gotta back the fuck up. Not everything is a race issue.

She's a bad actress. And Hollywood is very obviously trying to pander to Chinese box offices these days. Almost every blockbuster has an Asian element in it and there's a reason for that.
 

Jiggy

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Kelly Marie Tran was a complete unknown before she joined this movie. Nobody cast her because they think she's going to bring in big box office dollars in China. If you want that you cast Vin Diesel. Who, by the way, isn't Chinese either.
 

KidKompromat

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Your "gentle shot" is blatant racism though. She is not Chinese. No one in China is going to look at her and think she is Chinese. Her casting is NOT pandering to China because adding someone who is Vietnamese is not Chinese.

It's like saying casting an Irish man in a movie is a move to pander to "the French". It's absurd.

No it's not. Hollywood wants Asians in their movies. This should be obvious if you've watched any blockbusters of that last few years.

And she's a bad actress. Chinese or not, pandering or not, she's bad, why can't I make that point?
 

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Here's a plot twist for you. I'm Asian. I grew up around Asians. I have a lot of Asian friends (viet, Chinese, Filipino, Cambodian). I dated a viet girl. I dated a Chinese girl. Filipino. And she looked Chinese to me. And at dinner with all my Chinese cousins they thought she was Chinese too.

Era gotta back the fuck up. Not everything is a race issue.

She's a bad actress. And Hollywood is very obviously trying to pander to Chinese box offices these days. Almost every blockbuster has an Asian element in it and there's a reason for that.
If they wanted to "pander to Chinese boxoffice" they would you know cast someone from China or who was Chinese! The actress who played Rose is neither.

You are the one making this about race. You made it about race when you insisted she was only cast to pander to Chinese box office by casting an asian.
 

hurroocane

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Finally saw the movie and now I wanted to start reading the spoiler threads and this is thread THREE?? What the hell.

I guess I'm in the "TLJ is a good movie" camp.

Quick question - was the kid at the end force sensitive? It looked like he force-grabbed his broom but the scene was kinda dark and I'm not sure if I saw that correctly
 

LionPride

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You know typically Chinese or Chinese-American actors are cast in these movies to pander to...ya know...China
 
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Lol every Asian looks the same.

Although to be fair I suppose for the generic American every Asian people might as well be Chinese, lol.

And there is truth in movies casting Asian actors in order to pander to the Asian public, regardless of how uncomfortable it might seem. It's just fact of life.
 

KidKompromat

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CHINESE PEOPLE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHINESE AND VIETNAMESE.

Please please please stop and think about what you are saying. It is really offensive and racist.
Im Chinese. She looks like she could be Chinese.

But even if I wasn't Chinese, I still don't see where the racism comes in. Would it be racist if I thought a blonde German looked Irish?

Did I EVER say all Asians look alike or is that what the racism alarmists are trying to project onto me to make a social justice point.
 

LionPride

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Finally saw the movie and now I wanted to start reading the spoiler threads and this is thread THREE?? What the hell.

I guess I'm in the "TLJ is a good movie" camp.

Quick question - was the kid at the end force sensitive? It looked like he force-grabbed his broom but the scene was kinda dark and I'm not sure if I saw that correctly
Yeah he force grabbed the broom
 

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Kelly Marie Tran was a complete unknown before she joined this movie. Nobody cast her because they think she's going to bring in big box office dollars in China. If you want that you cast Vin Diesel. Who, by the way, isn't Chinese either.
Bingo. She does nothing to "pander" to China. She isn't Chinese, she isn't from China, she is a complete unknown.

Claiming she was cast to pander to China is racist, period.
No it's not. Hollywood wants Asians in their movies. This should be obvious if you've watched any blockbusters of that last few years.

And she's a bad actress. Chinese or not, pandering or not, she's bad, why can't I make that point?
You aren't making the point she is a bad actress, you insisted she was only cast to pander to China. Which is a complete falsehood. As pointed to to you already.
 

Kin5290

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She's viet sure. Looks Chinese. Still very much apart of hollywoods conscious effort to pander to China's box office. Not saying that's a bad thing, Asians in cinema are all good, but doesn't change the fact that she's bad at acting.
Holy casual racism, Batman.

I mean, jeez, you had your chance to back down.
 

bionic77

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I saw it for the 2nd time today and it is so much better the second time. The movie is so fucking dense it is hard to catch it all the first go around.

I am really starting to love the story and the character progressions of the major characters from the Force Awakens.

The 3rd movie could really be something special if they can pull it off.
 
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Finally saw the movie and now I wanted to start reading the spoiler threads and this is thread THREE?? What the hell.

I guess I'm in the "TLJ is a good movie" camp.

Quick question - was the kid at the end force sensitive? It looked like he force-grabbed his broom but the scene was kinda dark and I'm not sure if I saw that correctly

He might be the hero of Johnson's next trilogy, hahaha.

I kiinda wish the next hero for the next main trilogy is just usual guy/girl with no force powers whatsoever, that would be interesting. Although the possibility would be near zero, maybe.