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Star Wars: The Last Jedi |OT3| The War is Just Beginning (Unmarked Spoilers)
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Hell even worse, first it was Finn, THEN it was Han, then it was Luke, then Ben.
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actually seeing as how we the audience can tell the exact moment that Luke knows his plan worked and everyone is ultimately going to get out of there the thinking is he had to keep up the facade to kylo because that whole bit is before that moment. once Luke knows his plan worked he has that exchange with Kylo and lets himself get cut.
Wait, how's the weird? He dodged because he wanted Kylo to think he was really there. If he doesn't die, Kylo finds out he's not really there and the jig is up.
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Like, it actually becomes NOT weird after finding out he isn't really there. At first you might be wondering, "this is odd, why isn't he fighting back" and then it's all made clear by the end. Adding clarity is not odd.
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This user was warned for: A series of trolling and disingenuous comments, not done in good faith.
Aww what likeable "flaws."
Guys - I said it was bad fight choreography. Cheesy as hell. Plot-wise I understand the whole stalling for time etc. thing.
I need a gif of Kylo screaming no.
How are these not flaws? They literally lead directly to her nearly getting herself killed in both films:
It's not any more illegal than a gif of the bluray version you haven't paid for.
One thing that really bums me out about the new Star Wars movies is how phoned in all the music is.
Nothing from The Last Jedi's score stuck out as memorable to me. In fact, I would actually say that it's pretty bad. The dumb musical stingers and constant reuse of Star Wars music from the original trilogy is lame as hell. Say what you want about the prequel trilogy, but at least the music in those movies was a nice departure from the first three movies. The new trilogy's music simply feels half-hearted. It's just as bad as modern marvel movies and their lackluster scores.
Nothing from The Last Jedi's score stuck out as memorable to me. In fact, I would actually say that it's pretty bad. The dumb musical stingers and constant reuse of Star Wars music from the original trilogy is lame as hell. Say what you want about the prequel trilogy, but at least the music in those movies was a nice departure from the first three movies. The new trilogy's music simply feels half-hearted. It's just as bad as modern marvel movies and their lackluster scores.
Do military operations generally end with the mutineer being gleefully put in charge?
There's definitely the perfect scene in TLJ for that. Just need some leaks to make it.
One of the members of the mutiny was Billie Lourd's character, who IIRC is Chief Navigator.
If she doesn't know the details of the mission then who the hell does?
I didn't really notice in my first listen but the Canto Bight music is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ue_5T4fMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ue_5T4fMk
Hahaha.
For all the deaths and possible doom for the entire Resistance that he has caused, Poe sure does come off lightly in this movie.
Lol is this for real? The film tells you like 20 times, and I think Kylo says it himself at least twice.
He says something like "Your greatest weakness is holding onto the past/searching for your family everywhere. In Han Solo, now in Luke"
And he tells her "You're still holding on.. let go!" at the end of the film.
Ah yes, I see now. They're all clear up front.
Is it possible for Bragg to make ONE post that's in good faith? Lets see if it is.
We're 3 OTs in without a single one but I believe in him.
Not very trusting? Wut?
In TFA she basically swallowed the entire idea of Finn being a Resistance fighter wholesale without even questioning him whatsoever, how come that's not "very trusting"? Hahaha.
Heck you might even argue that she's too trusting, especially since she even went on to Snoke's ship deliberately because she's banking on the possibility that Kylo would turn good. Heck Snoke even counted on that naivety of hers.
Rey's theme is good. It's actually one of the few pieces of music that I like from the new movies.
Everything else you listed sounds like Star Wars...and that's pretty much it. It's trying to sound like the old movies without actually feeling original or interesting.
No. There's only 400 people and their whole high command was destroyed. He's demoted to captain but he's still a captain.
John Williams...hates porgs? This is a possibility even I had not seen but now that I think about it...my god.
Which is funny since those are things Luke has done.
Luke almost single-handedly destroyed the first Death Star and for all intents and purposes brought down Vader and the Emperor.
Agree with most of your statements and strongly disagree with the contention that Rey is a Mary Sue, but I think you have that backwards. She trusts too much.
Trusts her parents to come back even though deep down she knows they won't.
Trusts that Finn is part of the resistance simply based on his statement.
Trusts that Luke will come back to fight the first order when he consistently says he won't.
Trusts that Kylo will turn to the light despite her actual experience as well as Luke's advice says he won't
Do you have any examples of her NOT being trusting when she should have been?
Navigator seems like the most important person to inform of the plan.
Do you think a mutiny is ever justified? Or do you think that the movie is trying to teach us to always trust authority?
No. Luke wants to go with Obi-Wan but refuses the call to adventure just like Rey because his uncle and aunt need him. He only goes when he sees they were killed by stormtroopers.
I am trying to recall scenes that makes you think this about her, can you elaborate? Probably the one where she ran away from Maz in TFA?
If anything she's just wayyy too trusting to people, a flat out naive, which I can safely say that the movies even made a point several times in many important scenes (Finn deciding to tell her that he's not a Resistance fighter, Snoke gleefully pointing out how naive she was believing Kylo would turn good, etc etc)
Not really. This is over 3 decades later and his grandfather is literally a deity.
Luke actually took down an AT AT by himself back in ESB.
No it doesn't prove anything. I find her faults kind of hard to see and two people telling me what those faults are yet being total opposite kind of leans in my favor a bit I guess.
You both agree with confidence. I guess? But she seems to quickly embolden whenever needed. That's also a bit at odds with being "hard headed" no?
Abandonment issues, sure.
Also can you clarify what my stance is? Is this more of you fishing for sexism or is it something else I'm not hip to?
If there isn't a Yub Nub equivalent for the Porgs in IX, I vote we start a sternly worded petition.
Well the new Rebellion is going to need a new base of operations and allies to teach them the ways of the green milk and oversize spear fishing ;)