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So how are we feeling about 2023 (RE:4) Leon?
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He looks fine. I'm not thrilled with it but I also recognize that they are going to make a series of bad decisions with this remake anyway, so I don't hold it against them.
Yeah,
I love everything except for that distinctive boyish charm thing he's got going. It worked in RE2 since he was supposed to be the gun-shy rookie cop thrust into an insane situation but RE4 Leon was always ready to kick ass and chew bubblegum and he wore it on his face. I wish he looked a bit gruffer and mature facially and less prettied up but hey, if that's my biggest complaint, they're doing something right.
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I love everything except for that distinctive boyish charm thing he's got going. It worked in RE2 since he was supposed to be the gun-shy rookie cop thrust into an insane situation but RE4 Leon was always ready to kick ass and chew bubblegum and he wore it on his face. I wish he looked a bit gruffer and mature facially and less prettied up but hey, if that's my biggest complaint, they're doing something right.
So you don't want him to be RE4 Leon?
His jacket looks weird, his pants look weird. Straight up. Seems like a minor nitpick but his clothes looking so baggy kind of put me off his character design. I have a bomber jacket similar to Leon's and that collar he has is so fucking absurdly large compared to even the most generous styles in reality.
Not really. RE4 is a great game, but it was the point in which the protagonists went from being just normal people thrown into extraordinary circumstances into Michael Bay on adderall ubermench. It's a welcomed return for me.
Crossing my fingers that gangster leon and knight ashely are unlockable costumes in the game. Just imagine how good they will look in the RE Engine.
It's a must.
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I like the new jacket a lot more.
GIMME DAT RAYTRACED KNIGHT COSTUME!Crossing my fingers that gangster leon and knight ashely are unlockable costumes in the game. Just imagine how good they will look in the RE Engine.
Leon was always a pretty boy. It's his main defining physical characteristic. He looks great to me, and it makes sense they'd use the REmake 2 model as the base for REmake 4. Anybody that thought they'd do it any differently was fooling themselves.
No no. We need cocky Leon, only way RE4s ridiculous story works.
Which is...perfect.
I think Remake 2 Leon is the best example of an update to an already existing character design in the history of video games.
RE4 Leon looks like an update to that, with a coherent "lack of sleep associated with your weird demanding job" layer on top.
That is like, exactly what a post Raccoon City survivor should look like. Man had to deal with zombies, a giant alligator, a tyrant, and the act of falling in love only to get betrayed all in the same night. That'll induce some major PTSD and he appropriately looks incredibly stressed.
I think it looks amazing. And as other have said, the fact that he look so… tired, haggard, haunted makes sense after what he lived through in Raccoon City. He look older and wearier. Almost traumatised – which he should be! Also goes without saying a way higher fidelity than before.
I also found his eyes kind of creepy and unsettling in RE4 which I don't know was actually intentional. I'm glad that's been changed.
Also I think they're going for a very different tone and style with the RE4 Remake. The original game is scary at the start, but it's wacky and silly and completely tonally inconsistent. I know a lot of people loved that, and the original is still there for you. But I think they're trying to lean into making RE4R a genuinely scary survival horror game like RE2R and RE3R.
That means Leon needs to be different – he is more experienced after raccoon city, but I don't think he's running from boulders, roundhouse-kicking zombies and firing RPGs at zombie soldiers. I think we're going to get a very different game here – a genuine re-imagining, far more extensively so than we even got with RE2R. I think his design and 'feel' has been changed to reflect that. I think they want Leon to be a much more grounded and human character – not a Michael Bay action hero.
I think that's really interesting too. I mean everyone loves RE4 – and I do too, have since I was like 12 and played it on the Wii. But everyone knows it's both possibly the best game in the series and the point at which the series started to totally fall apart. And Leon being an action hero badass wise-quipping, bizarrely funny 'villains', and all the other stuff were a big part of that. I think the team at Capcom see these remakes as a change to rejuvinate the entire franchise and take it in a new direction. I think RE4R has to be genuinely reimagined for it to make sense today. It wouldn't be enough to just update the graphics and controls/action; but given that the silliness of the original was half the problem going forwards in that series, it makes more sense to update that. Sorry for the ramble.
I also found his eyes kind of creepy and unsettling in RE4 which I don't know was actually intentional. I'm glad that's been changed.
Also I think they're going for a very different tone and style with the RE4 Remake. The original game is scary at the start, but it's wacky and silly and completely tonally inconsistent. I know a lot of people loved that, and the original is still there for you. But I think they're trying to lean into making RE4R a genuinely scary survival horror game like RE2R and RE3R.
That means Leon needs to be different – he is more experienced after raccoon city, but I don't think he's running from boulders, roundhouse-kicking zombies and firing RPGs at zombie soldiers. I think we're going to get a very different game here – a genuine re-imagining, far more extensively so than we even got with RE2R. I think his design and 'feel' has been changed to reflect that. I think they want Leon to be a much more grounded and human character – not a Michael Bay action hero.
I think that's really interesting too. I mean everyone loves RE4 – and I do too, have since I was like 12 and played it on the Wii. But everyone knows it's both possibly the best game in the series and the point at which the series started to totally fall apart. And Leon being an action hero badass wise-quipping, bizarrely funny 'villains', and all the other stuff were a big part of that. I think the team at Capcom see these remakes as a change to rejuvinate the entire franchise and take it in a new direction. I think RE4R has to be genuinely reimagined for it to make sense today. It wouldn't be enough to just update the graphics and controls/action; but given that the silliness of the original was half the problem going forwards in that series, it makes more sense to update that. Sorry for the ramble.
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Its definitely a compression thing. We will see higher res comparisons down the road.
He probably has even more detail (or at the very least, about the same as Remake 2)
The remake looks to be much more subdued in its ridiculousness.