Leffen is a good boyIs every prominent Smash player a nonce or what? Fucking hell.
Leffen is a good boyIs every prominent Smash player a nonce or what? Fucking hell.
Ya know if all Katie wants is a genuine apology for what happened... Zero got off lucky. This is a situation where nobody's calling for the end of Zero's career and all they want is just a genuine acknowledgement that he himself messed up. I'm personally all for people growing as individuals but the fact that he won't apologize really makes me question if he's truly grown from that time period
Shouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
Worst post of the day winner.Shouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
They'll just ignore the competitive community more now then they did in the past, they now have a good reason to not be involved in any of this. Any hope for Nintendo to support the smash community has been thrown out the window.I wonder how Nintendo and Sakurai feel, especially considering some higher ups and Sakurai have gone to the E3 Smash tourneys and likely met a few of these people. :/ This is so disturbing...I can't even imagine...
Jesus.
Unfortunately. It's clear a tiny amount of people don't care about the actual issues and just want to insult a particular game they're not fond of. Which is awfully disgusting
Hence why I say lucky because sexual assault of a 15 year old is indeed a horrible fucking thing and in all cases would deserve to destroy someone's career.dude no
if he did this shit then he should be done. full stop.
What a wonderful takeaway from all this. Top tier insight.Shouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
What a trash post.Shouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
Shouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
Think you meant to post this on your twitterShouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
It's crazy that for years guys like Hbox, leffen, and Salem have been viewed as the bad guys of smash when all this shit was going down. Only thing leffen is guilty of is trash talkingA friend told me that he was harassing some kids some time ago, but he hasnt showed me proof, and he also REALLY hates Leffen so I dont know if I could trust him
Hence why I say lucky because sexual assault of a 15 year old is indeed a horrible fucking thing and in all cases would deserve to destroy someone's career.
Update 7/2, 9:09pm PT
Nintendo has issued a statement to IGN regarding the allegations that have arisen in the fighting game community, and in the Super Smash Bros. community.
"At Nintendo, we are deeply disturbed by the allegations raised against certain members of the competitive gaming community. They are absolutely impermissible. We want to make it clear that we condemn all acts of violence, harassment, and exploitation against anyone and that we stand with the victims."
Just report and move on. Don't give it any more attention than that.
Are you really gonna turn this into a Melee vs. other Smash games thing?I would note that this has all been the Brawl/Smash 4/Ultimate community. I'm not aware of anything like this surfacing in the Melee community
They'll just ignore the competitive community more now then they did in the past, they now have a good reason to not be involved in any of this. Any hope for Nintendo to support the smash community has been thrown out the window.
A friend told me that he was harassing some kids some time ago, but he hasnt showed me proof, and he also REALLY hates Leffen so I dont know if I could trust him
What a truly awful takeShouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
Yeah it's not like the grown up fighting games don't have their current problems going on. With the head Evo guy being a pedophile and admitting to it.Shouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
Yes it has. Don't start this. Westballz has been accused of multiple things in the past twelve hours including trying to go on dates with minors, groping Mang0's wife, etc. This is a disgusting fucking thing to say. Don't make it a game vs. game thing.I would note that this has all been the Brawl/Smash 4/Ultimate community. I'm not aware of anything like this surfacing in the Melee community
Hello. I'm not the most familiar with the Smash community, but I would like to ask why these people lived together in this "sky's house."
If this was explained, please feel free to point out where so I can read.
This is terrible. In some of these stories, people mention a "sky house". What's that? I tried to google it, but found no answer. was it a real house where some smash players lived all together?
It sucks but 19+ million other people purchased the game.I wonder how Nintendo and Sakurai feel, especially considering some higher ups and Sakurai have gone to the E3 Smash tourneys and likely met a few of these people. :/ This is so disturbing...I can't even imagine...
Jesus.
Fucking really ? Gonna make this kind of post when we're talking about accusations of sexual abuse and pedophilia ? Get a fucking grip.Shouldn't have tried to force a baby game into a competitive fighter, could have avoided all this.
I'm going to guess that they're talking about YouTuber Sky Williams who threw parties and shit at his house.This is terrible. In some of these stories, people mention a "sky house". What's that? I tried to google it, but found no answer. was it a real house where some smash players lived all together?
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the FBI has eyes on this all now or very soon. This is widespread.
Its a house own by a smash player Sky. Sky was an influential figurehead in both the Smash 4 and Utlimate community. He also had the benefit of having a nice house that is close to many regionals. So he would often host parties or allow competitors to stay at his house.
That makes sense. So that's why there are so many people that knew about this stuff. It makes it so much disgusting.I'm going to guess that they're talking about YouTuber Sky Williams who threw parties and shit at his house.
Leffen's only really guilty of being kind of a dick amd taking trash talking waaaaay too far, but that was ages ago and he's grown a lot since then.A friend told me that he was harassing some kids some time ago, but he hasnt showed me proof, and he also REALLY hates Leffen so I dont know if I could trust him
Nintendo was already separate from the competitive community to a degree that many competitive players considered a fault. All of these events are just proving that Nintendo was right to never get that involved.If Nintendo is smart they will go beyond condemning these individuals and explicitly separate themselves from any of these competitive scenes and actively urge their customers to stay away. Their brand can't afford to be tied in with a pedophile den. They can't stop their games from being played competitively (right?), but they can issue warnings to protect their underage customers.
This is just wrong btw. Melee players SleepyK, DJ Nintendo, & The Moon have all been implicated, new info came out about MacD, and stories about Westballz and others appear to be coming up later today. While there are bound to be less stories in general about the Melee community, as it is smaller and trends significantly older, there are still plenty of examples of misconduct.I would note that this has all been the Brawl/Smash 4/Ultimate community. I'm not aware of anything like this surfacing in the Melee community
Yo where the fuck are the parents/guardians at during these events? As a parent, no way I'm letting my child around adults without me or my wife present. This shit is sick!
Teens go to stuff like concerts on their own all the time, come on now... I know you don't intend to deflect but this detail is really beside the point.
Chudat, Westballz The Moon, D1 etc.I would note that this has all been the Brawl/Smash 4/Ultimate community. I'm not aware of anything like this surfacing in the Melee community
I would note that this has all been the Brawl/Smash 4/Ultimate community. I'm not aware of anything like this surfacing in the Melee community
Nintendo was already separate from the competitive community to a degree that many competitive players considered a fault. All of these events are just proving that Nintendo was right to never get that involved.
i don't think it's necessarily the case that there are fewer abusers. There's just a lot of info coming out now. There is absolutely a lot centered around the 2015-2018 Smash 4 scene right now, which may have just been bigger or trended younger, but I doubt we don't see allegations come out in other fighting games sooner than laterWhy does this seem to be so prevalent in the smash community compared to other fighting games? What's so different with the high profile people in the smash community?
I wonder how Nintendo and Sakurai feel, especially considering some higher ups and Sakurai have gone to the E3 Smash tourneys and likely met a few of these people. :/ This is so disturbing...I can't even imagine...
Jesus.