Single life trump would be pretty wild. Would he just embrace it and have a stream of pornstars and playmates coming through the doors? Clean up after he's bounced would be intense.
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Rudy Giuliani admits Trump reimbursed Cohen 130K for Stormy deal. Update: Trying to walk it back.
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so what exactly does this mean for trump and cohen? what are the consequences of this? anything?
I dunno, apparently the whole quote isn't on YouTube anymore. I guess you're right. He only admitted to walking in on women around the ages of 18-20, while there are allegations he walked in on teenagers too.
^LMAO @ the Onion. I guess when reality is blurring the lines with satire so much, you really have to pull no punches hahaha.
Other than proving (AGAIN!) that the Imbecile-in-Chief is a liar, it means that the possibility exists that the money illegally came from the Imbecile's campaign funds. Note that I said "possibility" - if the money came from the Imbecile's personal funds, then there's no criminal matter.
Only trump would stiff his lawyer 28 cents for a pornstar cover up payment
Well, supposedly Stormy has physical evidence (dvd?) that it happened. Something I'm sure the sexual assault accusers didn't.
Also, many of the 16+ accusers were paid off...via court settlements.
If true, yea there is no out for Trump cause the FBI has that info now. If true, not sure why Rudy/Trump are even bothering to spin the Stormy stuff at this point.
Well the positives of many other hush payments is that they can argue Stormy was just another in a long history of this...so it has nothing to do with the campaign.
At this point, no one cares Trump had sex with all these women (or even forced abortions). So might as well own up to it all (as Rudy is doing for him) to deflect from other criminal charges.
Actually if they can prove that silencing Stormy was beneficial for the campaign, then he would have to report the 130k as a campaign contribution even if they were from his personal funds, which he did not .
I was imagining a scenario today, where Trump was saying 'I wasn't lying when I said I didn't pay him back, because I didn't pay him back all $130,000.'
It's a decent strategy (and I say "decent" cause it's really the only one they have left at this point, so might as well go all in)
Everyone knows trump lies, so Giuliani's comments doesn't threaten that about trump lol
Everyone knows trump has extramarital affairs outside of marriage, so Giuliani's comments doesn't threaten that either.
What this does is make Cohen look like a liar, and puts out there that Trump gives Cohen money every month to take care of these private matters Trump doesn't want public. Trump gives Cohen a monthly retainer to take care of these things and leave Trump out of the specifics.
The strategy is, to assert the Stormy payment didn't come directly from campaign funds, that indeed it was personal Cohen funds, and Trump eventually paid it back through retainer payments.
Also, to explain that this is a general setup for all types of things that even happened before the the campaign, the Stormy payment cannot be considered campaign related since there is precedent of this kind of thing happening many times before.
These Giuliani comments certainly aren't helpful for Stormy's civil case against Cohen (that's why Avenatti is so giddy)...but it will help Trump down the road. That's all Guiliani/trump want to donwith all this.
It may end up being a poot strategy when all is said and done, but it's certainly not a stupid strategy to attempt right now considering the FBI raid on Cohen and the special counsel stuff going on.
Well yea, the PR strategy goes through whirlwinds of changes that's for sure lol
But again, everyone accepts Trump as a liar so it's not necessarily disadvantageous.
lol I have to believe Mueller has a lot of dirt on Giuliani at this point (Comey as well was investigating him before he got fired)...so a Guliani flip could very well be a possibility (although I'm betting Giuliani is more of a "big fish")
The DOJ couldn't prove that John Edwards using actual donations to silence his extra marital affair during the campaign was a violation...so I really doubt they would even begin to try and take this route with Trump.
The only hope is that the FBI can actually find evidence that Cohen funneled campaign money to Stormy and that trump knew about it at the time.
Are the monthly retainers the only money Trump pays to Cohen? Because it's a really dumb idea to tie an employee's pay to the money he doesn't give to your random mistresses. That's probably why Cohen colludes with the other attorney over the settlements, in yet another crime Trump has implicated himself.
That's not what legal analysts are saying. Rudy caused big problems legally.
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Fuck Sarah Sanders and her ugly mug. Bitch needs to jump off a bridge
Yea as I mentioned earlier in the thread, this line of reasoning certainly brings the Broidy client thing into a different focus.
Cohen couldn't possibly cover with his own funds the $1.6 million that it took to cover up that affair and forced abortion...would take 4 years for trump retainers to pay that back lol...so in comes a Trump doner to pay that money and make it seem like he was covering his own affair.
In all these cases, it's Cohen taking steps to distance Trump from the payments and the details of it.
Rudy caused a lot of conversations about possibilities, yes.
Comey and his interviews/memos have legal analysts saying it's causing himself big legal problems too...I doubt it will end up being so, tbh. Despite it being cable news/twitter fodder.
Trumps big legal problems will be a BUNCH of things...I doubt the money paid to Stormy will be a big piece of that. So all of Rudy's comments about it won't end up being bad for trump (unless Rudy was lying and the FBI can prove the money paid to Stormy was funneled from campaign funds)
If anything, Rudy's comments cause a bunch of problems for Cohen in his civil court case with Stormy.
Trump/Cohen legal problems will come from the FBI investigation...nothing concerning what Rudy said the past couple of days.
Trump has always privileged ass-licking over expertise. It is his way to make sure his perfect view of himself isn't compromised by nasty facts. It is amusing that even now, with the legal pressure increasing, he still doesn't see a need to change his methods.
Practically confirmed. Trump hasn't said it happened, but according to Stormys attorney, they have proof of said affair.
Are they seriously playing the "Cohen did this on his own out of loyalty to Trump" card? He fell on his sword for his master, made the payment out of his own pocket then felt he was owed something back?
It's so good that he keeps pushing and pushing and with the one previous thing on the previous page, Flood had no idea about the payment. I wonder if he may back out then. Everything is falling down on them and it's glorious :).
Also, in the article, I had no idea that DT hired a lawyer named Chuck Harder... had a bit of a giggle.
The NBC screw-up was one of the few media "victories" for Team Trump and here we go, it won't last a week because they talk so much of their own nonsense. Trump loves snatching defeat from victory. These guys act like a bunch of New York Post readers complaining on the morning LIRR ride into Penn, honestly.
As anyone with a scintilla of sense knows, just because Trump fails to admit to an act or, heck, outright denies an act, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kendalltag...-them-changing?utm_term=.wiGKxK7W1#.naaqLqQBR
This piece of orange grime intentionally walked into a room where it would be overwhelmingly expected that minors would be changing/undressing.
Gee willickers! I was wondering what I was paying 100s of thousands of dollars for but I never thought to ask before I payed it.
trump on now
rudy's a good guy, but hes new. doesnt know the facts. will have a statement to correct himself.
LULZ
rudy's a good guy, but hes new. doesnt know the facts. will have a statement to correct himself.
LULZ
Cohen is going to flip. It's amazing Cohen might actually have been Trump's most competent lawyer.