KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
17,085
I compiled a list of all the starters and the order they placed in.

  1. Greninja 140,559
  2. Charizard 93,968
  3. Bulbasaur 56,015
  4. Rowlett 52,367
  5. Pikachu 48,060
  6. Eevee 47,762
  7. Decidueye 44,011
  8. Sceptile 38,724
  9. Blaziken 38,307
  10. Mudkip 36,920
  11. Typhlosion 35,184
  12. Piplup 34,680
  13. Infernape 33,267
  14. Incineroar 29,925
  15. Cyndaquil 28,332
  16. Cinderace 26,892
  17. Swampert 26,540
  18. Primarina 25,953
  19. Totodile 22,526
  20. Serperior 22,269
  21. Oshawott 21,990
  22. Empoleon 21,773
  23. Intelleon 20,697
  24. Torterra 20,632
  25. Scorbunny 20,058
  26. Chikorita 18,521
  27. Squirtle 18,476
  28. Feraligatr 18,425
  29. Sobble 17,155
  30. Snivy 17,020
  31. Blastoise 16,795
  32. Charmander 14,049
  33. Litten 14,005
  34. Fennekin 13,508
  35. Grookey 13,478
  36. Torchic 12,568
  37. Samurott 11,444
  38. Delphox 10,889
  39. Turtwig 10,865
  40. Braixen 10,807
  41. Grovyle 10,746
  42. Venasuar 10,454
  43. Quilava 10,032
  44. Treecko 9,339
  45. Rillaboom 8,625
  46. Popplio 7,542
  47. Froakie 6,293

    N/A Every other starter.
Some notes:
- Pikachu and Eevee are on the list because of the original yellow and the Let's Go games, but because they cannot evolve in the game, their evolutions are not listed (Otherwise the eeveelutions will be in the higher placements on the list.
- Cyndaquil, Treecko and Fennekin had all stages make it into the top 30 of their region.
- Tepig and Chespin are the only starters that had none of their stages in the top 30 of their region.
 

crimsonECHIDNA

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,610
Gatorland
I really wonder if Pokemon like Lucario and Greninja are popular due to their push in the public eye in things like the anime and Smash Brothers, or if they got into the anime and Smash Brothers due to their popularity thus cementing it. I never really like either of them much, they always just felt like forced mascots instead of genuinely popular like Gengar and Mimikyu.

Thing is, Greninja became the fan-favorite of the Kalos starters the literal second the final designs were revealed. Getting in Smash and then getting a super transformation in the Anime were just the icing on the cake.
 

brinstar

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,029
I really wonder if Pokemon like Lucario and Greninja are popular due to their push in the public eye in things like the anime and Smash Brothers, or if they got into the anime and Smash Brothers due to their popularity thus cementing it. I never really like either of them much, they always just felt like forced mascots instead of genuinely popular like Gengar and Mimikyu.
if you consider those Pokémon forced then Mimikyu would be forced too lol
 
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crimsonECHIDNA

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,610
Gatorland
I compiled a list of all the starters and the order they placed in.

  1. Greninja 140,559
  2. Charizard 93,968
  3. Bulbasaur 56,015
  4. Rowlett 52,367
  5. Pikachu 48,060
  6. Eevee 47,762
  7. Decidueye 44,011
  8. Sceptile 38,724
  9. Blaziken 38,307
  10. Mudkip 36,920
  11. Typhlosion 35,184
  12. Piplup 34,680
  13. Infernape 33,267
  14. Incineroar 29,925
  15. Cyndaquil 28,332
  16. Cinderace 26,892
  17. Swampert 26,540
  18. Primarina 25,953
  19. Totodile 22,526
  20. Serperior 22,269
  21. Oshawott 21,990
  22. Empoleon 21,773
  23. Intelleon 20,697
  24. Torterra 20,632
  25. Scorbunny 20,058
  26. Chikorita 18,521
  27. Squirtle 18,476
  28. Feraligatr 18,425
  29. Sobble 17,155
  30. Snivy 17,020
  31. Blastoise 16,795
  32. Charmander 14,049
  33. Litten 14,005
  34. Fennekin 13,508
  35. Grookey 13,478
  36. Torchic 12,568
  37. Samurott 11,444
  38. Delphox 10,889
  39. Turtwig 10,865
  40. Braixen 10,807
  41. Grovyle 10,746
  42. Venasuar 10,454
  43. Quilava 10,032
  44. Treecko 9,339
  45. Rillaboom 8,625
  46. Popplio 7,542
  47. Froakie 6,293

    N/A Every other starter.
Some notes:
- Pikachu and Eevee are on the list because of the original yellow and the Let's Go games, but because they cannot evolve in the game, their evolutions are not listed (Otherwise the eeveelutions will be in the higher placements on the list.
- Cyndaquil, Treecko and Fennekin had all stages make it into the top 30 of their region.
- Tepig and Chespin are the only starters that had none of their stages in the top 30 of their region.

Squirtle and Blastoise being so low is what surprises me the most. Like I know quite a lot of people just don't like Venasaur's design, which is why the gap between it and Bulbasaur is so hilariously large, but Blastoise's placement surprises me alot.
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
61,376
I really wonder if Pokemon like Lucario and Greninja are popular due to their push in the public eye in things like the anime and Smash Brothers, or if they got into the anime and Smash Brothers due to their popularity thus cementing it. I never really like either of them much, they always just felt like forced mascots instead of genuinely popular like Gengar and Mimikyu.
Not even close for greninja. Froakie was the least liked starter. Everyone liked frogadier the most, a lot of fennekin people still stuck with braixen. Then everyone loved greninja because its a ninja frog. Long before knowing ash would have it or smash.

Sakurai picked greninja before xy were even revealed and early in development. So guess right. Same with the anime writers.
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
17,085
I hope we get a full list of all the pokemon and all the placements, just so we can figure out if Simisear repeated as the least popular pokemon in the poll.

tumblr_mnzyfvQGq01qd87hlo1_r1_400.gifv
 

Zutrax

"This guy are sick"
Member
Oct 31, 2017
4,474
if you consider those Pokémon forced then Mimikyu would be forced too lol
It's probably because in my bubble of Pokemon fans, everyone I saw actually liked and did fan art for Mimikyu, but most people I've observed bemoan or genuinely disliked Lucario and Greninja.
 

Chibs

Member
Nov 5, 2017
4,617
Belgium
Real surprised with Umbreon. The others are expected I guess.
I went to two Pokemon Centers in Tokyo last year because I desperately wanted those Umbreon socks. They were sold out everywhere (so I settled for Jolteon) and so was most of the other Umbreon merchandise. It's crazy popular, had no idea either. I was so happy I was able to get my hands on one of those mini Umbreon plushies, it was the last one.
 

Toxi

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
17,858
Greninja, Lucario, Zoroark, Deciduye, Toxtricity ... are Pokémon designed in a deliverated and specific way to be "cool", especially to attract teenage audiences.

They are dark, humanoid, mysterious...

It just works. They are like the Sasuke of Pokemon.
I'm not sure a loud and proud punk rocker counts as "mysterious".
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
26,561
Greninja is badass.
Still love Scyther and Scizor but ninja frog is up there with em.
 

Zombine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,269
My current faves:

10. Wooloo
9. Appletun
8. Bewear
7. Alohan Dugtrio
6. Gengar
5. Galarian Rapidash
4. Falinks
3. Eiscue
2. Incineroar
1. Delphox
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
26,561
I compiled a list of all the starters and the order they placed in.

  1. Greninja 140,559
  2. Charizard 93,968
  3. Bulbasaur 56,015
  4. Rowlett 52,367
  5. Pikachu 48,060
  6. Eevee 47,762
  7. Decidueye 44,011
  8. Sceptile 38,724
  9. Blaziken 38,307
  10. Mudkip 36,920
  11. Typhlosion 35,184
  12. Piplup 34,680
  13. Infernape 33,267
  14. Incineroar 29,925
  15. Cyndaquil 28,332
  16. Cinderace 26,892
  17. Swampert 26,540
  18. Primarina 25,953
  19. Totodile 22,526
  20. Serperior 22,269
  21. Oshawott 21,990
  22. Empoleon 21,773
  23. Intelleon 20,697
  24. Torterra 20,632
  25. Scorbunny 20,058
  26. Chikorita 18,521
  27. Squirtle 18,476
  28. Feraligatr 18,425
  29. Sobble 17,155
  30. Snivy 17,020
  31. Blastoise 16,795
  32. Charmander 14,049
  33. Litten 14,005
  34. Fennekin 13,508
  35. Grookey 13,478
  36. Torchic 12,568
  37. Samurott 11,444
  38. Delphox 10,889
  39. Turtwig 10,865
  40. Braixen 10,807
  41. Grovyle 10,746
  42. Venasuar 10,454
  43. Quilava 10,032
  44. Treecko 9,339
  45. Rillaboom 8,625
  46. Popplio 7,542
  47. Froakie 6,293

    N/A Every other starter.
Some notes:
- Pikachu and Eevee are on the list because of the original yellow and the Let's Go games, but because they cannot evolve in the game, their evolutions are not listed (Otherwise the eeveelutions will be in the higher placements on the list.
- Cyndaquil, Treecko and Fennekin had all stages make it into the top 30 of their region.
- Tepig and Chespin are the only starters that had none of their stages in the top 30 of their region.
This is really funny to see Greninja up top and Froakie on the bottom. What an ugly ducking story.
Or maybe it's just because anyone who would vote for Froakie just had to vote for Greninja instead.
 

Jaoox

Member
Oct 27, 2017
294
Not what I expected... But kind of a cool list !

Except... Jumpluff... My boy, one day you'll be recognized, you'll see.
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
17,085
Playable Smash Bros. Character ranking.
  1. Greninja 140,559
  2. Lucario 102,259
  3. Charizard 93,968
  4. Pikachu 48,060
  5. Mewtwo 34,585
  6. Incineroar 29,925
  7. Squirtle 18,476
  8. Pichu 15,695

    N/A Ivysaur, Jigglypuff
 
Feb 26, 2019
4,398
Tijuana
Full evolutionary lines that made the top across the different regions (excluding 1 stage Pokémon, of course):
  • Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu
  • Vulpix, Ninetales
  • Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z
  • Munchlax, Snorlax
  • Cyndaquil, Quilava, Typhlosion
  • Wooper, Quagsire
  • Misdreavus, Mismagius
  • Treecko, Grovyle, Sceptile
  • Zorua, Zoroark
  • Minccino, Cinccino
  • Fennekin, Braixen, Delphox
  • Espurr, Meowstic
  • Pancham, Pangoro
  • Phantump, Trevenant
  • Rockruff, Lycanroc
  • Meltan, Melmetal
  • Snom, Frosmoth
 

Zalman

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,899
Between Smash Bros. and being the poster boy for one of the most popular anime seasons, Greninja winning makes a lot of sense.
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
17,085
I'm quite surprised at how well Zeroara did considering how little advertisements Zeroara actually got at the time of it's release. Managed to outdo Meltan and Melmetal combined who came out at a similar time and got a much bigger push with Pokemon Go (plus the anime as well).
 

Phendrana

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,380
Melbourne, Australia
Or maybe it's just because anyone who would vote for Froakie just had to vote for Greninja instead.
Yeah, it's more likely this.

Similarly, I'm seeing a ton of people starting to claim that Bulbasaur is confirmed to be the most popular first-stage starter...when we still can't really know that unless they did a poll of just the first-stage starters. I'd wager most of the Charizard voters would switch to Charmander, giving it the lead again.

No, it means there are too many great designs and just one couldn't be picked to syphon votes. Gen 5 is easily the best by far.
Gen V has the fewest overall votes as well, though. It was the most skipped region (in the poll).
 

Firemind

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,047
I'm trying to think of how this occured, are there memes I don't know about? was mega pinsir actually really popular for some reason?
The original underdog of version exclusives? reliable early game powerhouse in pokemon Go?

So many theories!
Pinsir is infinitely cooler than Heracross and Scizor. That's right I said it.