PlayStation Sales: News and discussions

[El Manco]

HISTORICAL DATA (Source: Sony Interactive Entertainment )

More about the final number of PS2 HW sales in this thread (range between 159.2 and 161.9)

(Sales data on PlayStation®Vita are not disclosed)

 

[defaltoption]

It blows my my mind every time I see PS2's hardware sales, software sales to tbh, just so incredible. It set the bar so high its insane.

 

[Ryengeku]

I'd love to see the day when PSVR is proudly portrayed.

 

[jiggle]

Where are all these ps5 even sold
I'm like checking Bestbuytargetwalmartamazoncostco everyday and always sold out

 

[El Manco]

NEWS

United Kingdom 2020 PlayStation 5 Hardware sales (Source: Gfk)



United Kingdom - Software retail sales week 9 (Source: Gfk)

UK Retail Charts Yakuza Like A Dragon Brawls its Way Into the PS5 Top Ten

Weve got another week of UK retail charts to take a look at with a new release and plenty of movement.Yakuza Like A Dragon finally made its way to PS5...

www.playstationtrophies.org

Australia, PlayStation 4 software sales week 9 (Source: Sony-GSD)

Germany, software retail sales week 9 (Source: Gfk)

PlayStation 5
1. Demon's Souls
2. Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War
3. Spiderman Miles Morales
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6. Yakuza Like a Dragon

 

[SilentEagle]

All PS iterations are very successful.

 

[Portodutch]

If my calculations are correct software on PS4 have sold around 1400 million copies.
Do we think it can surpass PS2 in terms of software sold sitting at more then 1537 million?
Games being released now are crossgen or further along the year only sold on PS5 so that will cut into the PS4 sales.

 

[Expy]

I wonder how the supply situation is evolving. This week in Canada there have been quite a few PS5 drops on retailers, all selling out within minutes to half an hour. Seemed like more drops than usual.

 

[El Manco]

If my calculations are correct software on PS4 have sold around 1400 million copies.
Do we think it can surpass PS2 in terms of software sold sitting at more then 1537 million?
Games being released now are crossgen or further along the year only sold on PS5 so that will cut into the PS4 sales.

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Actually, ArmGunar estimates total PS4 software sales are near 1500 million already. So, yes, PS4 will surpass PS2 in that metric.

 

[metalgear89]

I wonder how the supply situation is evolving. This week in Canada there have been quite a few PS5 drops on retailers, all selling out within minutes to half an hour. Seemed like more drops than usual.

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Same in UK all week there was drops and next week some more drops. It's definitely getting better. Scalpers with large stock are gonna start sweating soon.

 

[Portodutch]

I wonder how the supply situation is evolving. This week in Canada there have been quite a few PS5 drops on retailers, all selling out within minutes to half an hour. Seemed like more drops than usual.

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It seems the supplies are improving from the markets we get data from (Japan, US, Spain, UK) they all improved in/throughout Februari.

 

[Portodutch]

Actually, ArmGunar estimates total PS4 software sales are near 1500 million already. So, yes, PS4 will surpass PS2 in that metric.

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Thats impressive considering the install base of the two.
I would have expected otherwise, with back in the day of PS2 gaming being still seem as something "nerdy" to do so less casuals where buying consoles in my experience and also the competition of mobile gaming being present (time wise if you only can play certain amount of hours on gaming a week and a certain amount is spend on mobile gaming less time there is to play on consoles)
Although to counteract that the more "casuals friendly" games like CoD, AC are getting (almost) yearly releases which wasnt the case then so that will probably help with the software numbers.

 

[Qvoth]

fy19 and fy20 ps4 sales dropped really hard huh

 

[El Manco]

NEWS

Spain, week 7 (retail sales) Source: Vandal.net

Super Mario 3D World para Switch repite como el juego más vendido en España

En la semana del 15 al 21 de febrero, PS5 fue la consola más vendida con más de 10.000 unidades, en su mejor dato en lo que llevamos de 2021.

vandal.elespanol.com

PlayStation 5 was the best-selling console this week with 11.800 units (LTD: 111.500)
The Last of Us Part 2 was the best selling PS4 game with 3.000 units (LTD: 213.000)
Spiderman Miles Morales was the best selling PS5 game this week.

Spain, PlayStation 5 console sales in 2021 (Source: Vandal.net)

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Week 1: 470 units
Week 2: 40
Week 3: 3.400
Week 4: 5.050
Week 5: 5.660
Week 6: 6.750
Week 7: 11.800
TOTAL: 33.170 units (LTD sales: 111.500)
(PS4 total sales estimate: 3,7 million units, or 3,2% of total PS4 global sales)

Japan, PlayStation 5 console sales in 2021 (Source: Famitsu)
Week 1: 11.166 units
Week 2: 7.328
Week 3: 17.348
Week 4: 25.948
Week 5: 13.524
Week 6: 22.890
Week 7: 25.037
Week 8: 33.838
Week 9: 22.549
TOTAL: 179.626 units (LTD sales: 445.408)
(PS4 total sales estimate: 9,3 million units, or 8,1% of total PS4 global sales)

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[gundamkyoukai]

It blows my my mind every time I see PS2's hardware sales, software sales to tbh, just so incredible. It set the bar so high its insane.

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What going to be crazy is PS4 will blow pass PS2 software sales with 35 million less hardware .
Then again PS2 was also pirate city so that also a factor lol .

 

[Xeonidus]

Slowly but surely getting more units out there. They still go incredibly fast though.

 

[El Manco]

What going to be crazy is PS4 will blow pass PS2 software sales with 35 million less hardware .
Then again PS2 was also pirate city so that also a factor lol .

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I totally agree piracy affected PS2 software sales. But PS4 SW sales number also had other "negative" factors, like free PS+ games, PSNow and F2P games.
It is very possible to buy a PS4 console, to play hundreds of hours to multiple different games, without really buying any of them.
Or just buy a PS4 to play Fortnite :-)

 

[GamingCJ]

Nice thread. It's been hard not to miss news with them scattered over all the PAL/NPD/MC threads. Hope you keep updating it.

Considering the recent stock improvement I wonder if they can outpace PS4 sales by the end of this quarter.

 

[ArchLector]

I don't really contribute much in sales thread, just lurk, but great thread OP!

 

[bushmonkey]

What going to be crazy is PS4 will blow pass PS2 software sales with 35 million less hardware .
Then again PS2 was also pirate city so that also a factor lol .

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I think it's amazing that the PS4 hasn't surpassed the PS2 because of digital indie games. There are more cheap accessible games than ever whereas on PS2, it was physical only.

 

[El Manco]

Nice thread. It's been hard not to miss news with them scattered over all the PAL/NPD/MC threads. Hope you keep updating it.

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I don't really contribute much in sales thread, just lurk, but great thread OP!

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Thanks!
I hope others can contribute to the thread with PlayStation sales info from their countries.
I plan to update the thread with news regularly, if it helps to have nice discussions, and to add more historical data when I find time for that task :-)

 

[plow]

I think it's amazing that the PS4 hasn't surpassed the PS2 because of digital indie games. There are more cheap accessible games than ever whereas on PS2, it was physical only.

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While true, during PS2 era you also had multiple games by the devs cause developing time was much much shorter. Rockstar release 3 GTAs during PS2 Era and none during PS4.
I think if you compare the number of games released between PS4 and PS2 i think they are pretty close. Would even give the edge to PS2.

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I know it's not a good tracker, but Wikipedia says there are 4380 PS2 Games and 3155 PS4 Games

 

[ArchLector]

While true, during PS2 era you also had multiple games by the devs cause developing time was much much shorter. Rockstar release 3 GTAs during PS2 Era and none during PS4.
I think if you compare the number of games released between PS4 and PS2 i think they are pretty close. Would even give the edge to PS2.

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The irony of that statement is that one single GTA on PS4 has certainly sold more than any GTA on PS2 and probably even more than all of them combined.

I also think comparing straightforward software sales is misleading now if the PS is just a Fortnite or Warzone machine for people. It would be interesting to know how big or small that number is but Sony will likely never tell.

 

[bushmonkey]

While true, during PS2 era you also had multiple games by the devs cause developing time was much much shorter. Rockstar release 3 GTAs during PS2 Era and none during PS4.
I think if you compare the number of games released between PS4 and PS2 i think they are pretty close. Would even give the edge to PS2.

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I know it's not a good tracker, but Wikipedia says there are 4380 PS2 Games and 3155 PS4 Games

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That's interesting. Does this track all the £1 / £2 shovel ware as well? I swear there are dozens released every week

 

[El Manco]

The irony of that statement is that one single GTA on PS4 has certainly sold more than any GTA on PS2 and probably even more than all of them combined.

I also think comparing straightforward software sales is misleading now if the PS is just a Fortnite or Warzone machine for people. It would be interesting to know how big or small that number is but Sony will likely never tell.

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PSN blog has removed, since January, the section "DLC and Expansions" from its monthly Top Downloads posts.
So, it is a bit more difficult now to estimate, for example, the popularity of F2P games.
I think in ERA we normally ignore how big that part is for PlayStation business nowadays. Only every three months we can see that "DLC and Expansions" actually generates more revenue than retail and digital software sales, combined!

2020

PlayStation Store: February’s Top Downloads

The Division 2 stakes its claim with top-download honors in February.

blog.playstation.com

2021

PlayStation Store: February 2021’s top downloads

FIFA 21, Grand Theft Auto V, Beat Saber, and Call of Duty: Warzone top the charts.

blog.playstation.com

 

[Arn]

I love seeing those hardware sales figures in the OP, crazy to see how much of a beast the PS2 was. Would love to see PSVR sales someday.

As others have said it feels like PS5 stock is dropping more frequently in the UK. It still sells out almost immediately but it's a good sign.

 

[Multiverse Moo]

I know it's not a good tracker, but Wikipedia says there are 4380 PS2 Games and 3155 PS4 Games

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I believe Sony has touted there being over 4,000 PS4 games, when referring to backwards compatibility on PS5

 

[El Manco]

HISTORICAL DATA

OK, since a couple of you asked about PSVR sales, these are the public updates:

February 2017: 915.000 units
October 2017: 1 million
December 2017: 2 million, and 12,2 million of PSVR-only games
August 2018: 3 million, and 21,9 million of PSVR-only games
March 2019: 4,2 million
December 2019: 5 million

 

[El Manco]

HISTORICAL DATA

On the topic of PlayStation 4 digital-only games. We know exactly how much these games sold during last years.

Software sales per quarter WITHOUT digital-only games

Software sales per quarter WITH digital-only games

Sales of digital-only games during full fiscal years:
FY2016: 16.3 million units
FY2017: 27,3
FY2018: 30,3
FY2019: 23,7
TOTAL: 97,6 million units (FY2016-FY2019)

 

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[Ariakon44]

Good thread. Will be fun to watch it fill out even more over the coming months.

 

[Jade1962]

Appreciate the effort OP. Bookmarked the thread. Will you be updating this thread with weekly data or just general milestones?

 

[El Manco]

Good thread. Will be fun to watch it fill out even more over the coming months.

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Yes, hopefully coming months are fun and we can discuss here about sales on PS4/PS5 of upcoming games like Returnal, Resident Evil 8, FF7R Intergrade, etc. 😊

Appreciate the effort OP. Bookmarked the thread. Will you be updating this thread with weekly data or just general milestones?

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Thanks! I will update with weekly/monthly news. For example, sales in UK, Japan, Spain, etc. And more posts with historical data as well.
Although I prefer if I am not the only one adding news and information here. If you, or anyone, find something interesting, please, feel free to post it.

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lol
It outlasted you 😂

 

[B.O.O.M.]

Good thread OP. Posting so I can keep track of the discussion.

Wonder when PS5 supplies get a bit more normalized. As I recall for the PS4, there was a drought and then a large shipment of hardware was delivered to stores to coincide with the inFamous SS launch.

 

[El Manco]

NEWS

Japan, PS4 & PS5 console and software retail sales week 9 (Source: Famitsu)

Soft debut of Yakuza Like a Dragon PS5 version.

PlayStation 4: 3.145 / 9.343.091 (weekly sales / LTD sales)
PlayStation 5: 22.549 / 445.408 (18.662 disc drive version, 3.887 digital edition)

[PS4] Little Nightmares 2: 3.096 / 22.922
[PS5] Yakuza: Like a Dragon: 2.861 / NEW (In UK: 1.200 - 1.500 estimate based on ranking position)
[PS4] Ar Nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star DX: 2.008 / NEW
[PS4] Nier Automata GOTY Edition: 1.815 / 110.680

Graph originally posted in the MC thread, courtesy of hiska-kun

Week 17 since launch, PlayStation 4: 7.351 / 599.014 (weekly sales / LTD sales)
Week 17 since launch, PlayStation 5: 22.549 / 445.408

Week 9 2014, PlayStation 4: 52.697 / 374.780 (PS4 launched week 8 2014)
Week 9 2021, PlayStation 5: 22.549 / 445.408

 

[Muitnorts]

It blows my my mind every time I see PS2's hardware sales, software sales to tbh, just so incredible. It set the bar so high its insane.

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I think PS4 sales are just as impressive actually, especially considering how few price cuts it's had.

 

[El Manco]

Good thread OP. Posting so I can keep track of the discussion.

Wonder when PS5 supplies get a bit more normalized. As I recall for the PS4, there was a drought and then a large shipment of hardware was delivered to stores to coincide with the inFamous SS launch.

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Welcome!

It would be interesting to know when PS4 was normalized in different countries. Like, I think in Japan the console neved had stock issues, and in Europe it was possible to buy one easily during spring, at least in some countries. I have no idea what happened in other regions (USA/Canada, Australia, etc.).

 

[GamingCJ]

As I don't see it posted here yet, below are the estimated US PS5 sales in relation to other consoles (LTD Nov 2020 - Jan 2021, taken from Welfares post in a NPD thread):

PS4: ~2.27M
PS5: ~2.22M
XB1: ~1.95M
XBS: <1.65M

 

[B.O.O.M.]

Welcome!

It would be interesting to know when PS4 was normalized in different countries. Like, I think in Japan the console neved had stock issues, and in Europe it was possible to buy one easily during spring, at least in some countries. I have no idea what happened in other regions (USA/Canada, Australia, etc.).

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True. My experience is purely from a US pov. Would be interesting to know how other regions did in that time frame for PS4

 

[El Manco]

HISTORICAL DATA

In addition to sell-in/shipped numbers, written in the opening post, Sony shares some data of sell-through/units sold to final customers in the financial reports.

 

[Loudninja]

Great thread!

 

[Afrikan]

PS3 sold 15mill less consoles than the PS1, yet sold 37mill more games. 😎

But those all might be GTA 4+5 tho lol.

 

[Ariakon44]

Welcome!

It would be interesting to know when PS4 was normalized in different countries. Like, I think in Japan the console neved had stock issues, and in Europe it was possible to buy one easily during spring, at least in some countries. I have no idea what happened in other regions (USA/Canada, Australia, etc.).

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I can speak for the US, at least anecdotally. Stock issues lasted until about April 2014, after the system had a big March, and then nearly stabilized (ie I could walk into a store and see the console sitting on the shelves regularly) in May.

 

[Jade1962]

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Week 17 since launch, PlayStation 4: 7.351 / 599.014 (weekly sales / LTD sales)
Week 17 since launch, PlayStation 5: 22.549 / 445.408

Week 9 2014, PlayStation 4: 52.697 / 374.780 (PS4 launched week 8 2014)
Week 9 2021, PlayStation 5: 22.549 / 445.408

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Am I reading this right in that PS5 is ahead of PS4 in Japan if you go by November launch date?

 

[El Manco]

Am I reading this right in that PS5 is ahead of PS4 in Japan if you go by November launch date?

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The first comparison has same amount of weeks, 17, for both systems. PS5 is behind but selling more units now per week.

I added week 9 in 2014 VS. week 9 in 2021 as this can be useful later. To see how the first March-May period was for both consoles, for example. Or during same weeks of summer, September, etc. Moreover, this is now one way to estimate total sales during FY2020 compared to FY2013.

 

[Zok310]

Nice!
What's the update plan quarterly?

 

[El Manco]

Nice!
What's the update plan quarterly?

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Goal of the thread is to compile news and discuss about PlayStation sales data as these are published or announced officially.
So, global PS4 and PS5 hardware sales will be probably updated quarterly. But sales in US monthly, and sales in UK, Japan, Spain, weekly.
Anyone who finds new information about PlayStation hardware or software sales can post and share data/links here for others to find it easily.

 

[Darth Smurf X]

HISTORICAL DATA

OK, since a couple of you asked about PSVR sales, these are the public updates:

February 2017: 915.000 units
October 2017: 1 million
December 2017: 2 million, and 12,2 million of PSVR-only games
August 2018: 3 million, and 21,9 million of PSVR-only games
March 2019: 4,2 million
December 2019: 5 million

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Cool stats. Do we have any stats on how well PSVR games sell?

 

[El Manco]

Cool stats. Do we have any stats on how well PSVR games sell?

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Welcome!
Yes, every month we got that information in the PlayStation Blog (top downloads PS5, PS4, F2P and PSVR games).

PlayStation Store: February 2021’s top downloads

FIFA 21, Grand Theft Auto V, Beat Saber, and Call of Duty: Warzone top the charts.

blog.playstation.com

About LTD numbers, we don't have a source for sales, but gamstat is a reliable source for estimates of number of players, although it does not update since last November :-(

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[RiceToast]

Wow this is a really cool thread; gonna keep up with the information here.