Overwatch |OT| Mercy May I?

Jam · Nov 22, 2017

icecold1983 said:
Lmao. Ok. Please continue to educate us with all the knowledge youve gained in the platnium/low diamond "elo hell"

Please continue to enlighten us with your ignorant and dismissive statements that lack any real depth or insight from your ~mysterious rank~

You just pull things out the ass and hope for the best to go against the grain don't you? What is your BattleTag/PSN/XBL, care to share your profile with the community?

icecold1983 · Nov 22, 2017

Jam said:
Please continue to enlighten us with your ignorant and dismissive statements that lack any real depth or insight from your ~mysterious rank~

You just pull things out the ass and hope for the best to go against the grain don't you? What is your BattleTag/PSN/XBL, care to share your profile with the community?

Cool. Dont worry one day the throwers will stop holding you back from higher ranks

ultra bawl · Nov 22, 2017

Moira hits comp tomorrow? Guess I've left it too late to do my placements this season, gold/plat is gonna be riddled with DPS Moira.

I just popped in the game to see if I could grind out my lootboxes and lo and behold, grouped with a level 5 3-stack who genuinely didn't seem to know how the payload moves. We are not doing this tonight, my blood pressure can't take it.

I wish the tutorial was mandatory. Did they ever include a payload escort section in it anyway? Even Paladins had that.

Jam · Nov 22, 2017

icecold1983 said:
Cool. Dont worry one day the throwers will stop holding you back from higher ranks

So A) You don't respond to my criticism of your proposed Tracer changes and instead just act superior and B) You refuse to show us your full Overwatch profile when requested.

Makes sense. If you're just going to troll maybe... You know... Don't? Be a good boy now Icey, don't be holding back all that beautiful conductive discussion I'm sure you're brimming with, trolling is cheap and you're better than that sweet cheeks.

icecold1983 · Nov 22, 2017

Danj said:
So I did a YouTube thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAaIBlZydMQ

How awful is my gameplay?

in the very beginning you were healing a full health phara rather than damage boosting. you also just let the dvas mech get destroyed. youre also just staying on the ground rather than flying with the phara and using buildings for cover. you popped guardian angel when your team was just about wiped as a means of self preservation when the mcree was in high noon. youre not positioning well, not reviving anyone and damage boosting/healing targets of low priority

Jam said:
So A) You don't respond to my criticism of your proposed Tracer changes and instead just act superior and B) You refuse to show us your full Overwatch profile when requested.

Makes sense. If you're just going to troll maybe... You know... Don't? Be a good boy now Icey, don't be holding back all that beautiful conductive discussion I'm sure you're brimming with, trolling is cheap and you're better than that sweet cheeks.

i posted several clear and concise posts and your response was "jeeze you guys were right about this guy". which is fine, but dont then complain

ultra bawl · Nov 22, 2017

Is there a nice Overwatch OT for people who aren't part of the inner circle and also don't really want to spectate shit-talking or

Hecht · Nov 22, 2017

People have opinions, and you're free to discuss those opinions on balance, nerfing, OP characters, etc., but this doesn't need to get into a dick-waving contest about rank, playtime, or what have you. If you can't engage people in normal conversation, maybe hit the "Back" button instead of "Post."

Schlep · Nov 22, 2017

Personally, I think anyone commenting on performance should put their Overbuff out there for credibility. I've only watched a couple minutes of Danj's video on Junkertown, but pretty much agree with icecold's assessment. Even if it's a bit on the... cold...side?

I'll try to make a video response tomorrow.

Jam · Nov 22, 2017

icecold1983 said:
in the very beginning you were healing a full health phara rather than damage boosting. you also just let the dvas mech get destroyed. youre also just staying on the ground rather than flying with the phara and using buildings for cover. you popped guardian angel when your team was just about wiped as a means of self preservation when the mcree was in high noon. youre not positioning well, not reviving anyone and damage boosting/healing targets of low priority

i posted several clear and concise posts and your response was "jeeze you guys were right about this guy". which is fine, but dont then complain

They were clear and concise because they were short and without much thought, I reply and then your response so far is to totally shut down. And you're still holding out that profile sweetie, don't be shy let us have a peak at all that data that proves your superiority complex (read: ignorance).

And not just your Overbuff, that's too limited. Let us see your full profile and history.

It seemed pretty cool before Icey here appeared Ultra. There isn't an intentional inner circle and I'm as new to this group as the next guy.

BDS · Nov 22, 2017

I seem to be having a lot of trouble finding a match this afternoon. I figured a lot of people would be off from school/work the day before Thanksgiving but I ended up getting matched with a six-stack of people like 700SR above me.

Hecht · Nov 22, 2017

Jam said:
It seemed pretty cool before Icey here appeared Ultra. There isn't an intentional inner circle and I'm as new to this group as the next guy.

Let it go. If it continues, we'll deal with it.

Danj · Nov 22, 2017

Jam said:
They were clear and concise because they were short and without much thought, I reply and then your response so far is to totally shut down. And you're still holding out that profile sweetie, don't be shy let us have a peak at all that data that proves your superiority complex (read: ignorance).

And not just your Overbuff, that's too limited. Let us see your full profile and history.

It seemed pretty cool before Icey here appeared Ultra. There isn't an intentional inner circle and I'm as new to this group as the next guy.

How do you share the full profile and history?

Owzers · Nov 22, 2017

But we're all in agreement now to target the pharah first right?

Jam · Nov 22, 2017

Danj said:
How do you share the full profile and history?

Adding them on their respective platform, Overbuff is limited to Quick Play and current season iirc.

How are you finding the advice given so far to your videos? Hopefully you'll pick up a few of the tips.

optimus8936 · Nov 22, 2017

I think it's kind of dumb to ask for someone's stats just because they're disagreeing with you. that doesn't matter.

Owzers said:
But we're all in agreement now to target the pharah first right?

Pharah is much easier to kill out of the duo, so yes

dabs furiously · Nov 22, 2017

Everyone here is top 500 in my heart :)

antitrop · Nov 22, 2017

Overbuff forgets about any season that isn't the current one, but MasterOverwatch does have a drop down box that let's you see the stats of any previous season.

Lemstar · Nov 22, 2017

I think Tracer's function is a good one to have somewhere in the game and that she wouldn't be able to fulfill it if her damage were any lower; it's just that her skillset also lets player skill disparity shine in a way that the majority of heroes don't. I'm not really sure what you can do about that, though.

Carfo said:
as someone who has over 730 hours into this game, I just want to say you're wrong. strategy is insanely important in this game, it's not simply press Q to win, the maps definitely aren't linear as there are multiple paths you can use to flank, and this game is far far far from simple. watching esports of OW is incredibly entertaining.

Is this your first competitive game?

optimus8936 · Nov 22, 2017

Carfo said:
as someone who has over 730 hours into this game, I just want to say you're wrong. strategy is insanely important in this game, it's not simply press Q to win, the maps definitely aren't linear as there are multiple paths you can use to flank, and this game is far far far from simple. watching esports of OW is incredibly entertaining.

Overwatch is an extremely simple game to learn.

dabs furiously · Nov 22, 2017

730 hours wow that's a lot. For me playing mercy has hours go by fast too, I'm almost plat border, I have over 3000 hours and I'm gonna have another 3000 more

Sadly still silver but I don't really care, my controller playing friends are stuck there too and I like supporting them

ultra bawl · Nov 22, 2017

Ah, I just tried doing a placement match and got a 3-stack who played healer, tank and DPS. Seemed kind of promising, until they started just walking towards the enemies without firing or shielding, literally just feeding. I tried to do as much as I could to get something from the match but when you're down to 3v6 in an otherwise even match you get picked off quick.

I don't think I have the wherewithal or the raw skill to manage this, I can't carry at all and really rely on a kind, competent team. I asked a couple of pages ago, but are there any single player FPS games or games otherwise similar to Overwatch that might scratch the itch instead? Scrub-friendly games with ez modes and nice learning curves that might let me one day head back to Overwatch comp a little more competent.

EssBeeVee · Nov 22, 2017

Danj said:
So I did a YouTube thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAaIBlZydMQ

How awful is my gameplay?

haven't had the chance to watch but when i time skipped i saw you as mercy defending junkertown, i've noticed youre not using GA enough. youre leaving yourself exposed and walking towards your team with your back to the enemy at times.
you should consider also learning to bunny hop with mercy and better position

Carfo · Nov 22, 2017

optimus8936 said:
Overwatch is an extremely simple game to learn.

easy to learn hard to master

NediarPT88 · Nov 22, 2017

Owzers said:
But we're all in agreement now to target the pharah first right?

Ready to take over soldier duty?

Since it's pharah you might have a shot, we already know how things will end if you try to face the mercy instead.

Lemstar · Nov 22, 2017

Carfo said:
easy to learn hard to master

this saying literally doesn't mean anything

the inability of the game to instruct players in even very basic concepts leads me to believe that the game is actually hard to learn but easy to master once you get there

Owzers · Nov 22, 2017

There's a lot to get into your head early on like counters/ult counters. What goes through shields, what blocks ults, etc etc. your knowledge builds when you play but not fast enough without watching vids/reading stuff.

N3WTYPE · Nov 22, 2017

Icecold BlessRNG

also tracer needs a slight tune down probably in her ult.

Nepenthe · Nov 22, 2017

Just met a real life Mercy main at my job when I noticed her Zelda wallet. Told her I was a Lucio main and she thanked me for maining a support, and we exchanged Battle Tags. It's the little moments.

Old Man Spike · Nov 22, 2017

"gg"

E-sportsmanship, or just a meaningless platitude?

antitrop · Nov 22, 2017

Old Man Spike said:
"gg"

E-sportsmanship, or just a meaningless platitude?

gg and glhf are both equally meaningless.

Nobody says glhf in Overwatch anyway, but it was common in StarCraft.

Nepenthe · Nov 22, 2017

I get a lot of glhf's in my matches. Maybe people down here in Silver Hell are just nicer.

turbobrick · Nov 22, 2017

Danj said:
So I did a YouTube thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAaIBlZydMQ
How awful is my gameplay?

icecold1983 said:
in the very beginning you were healing a full health phara rather than damage boosting. you also just let the dvas mech get destroyed. youre also just staying on the ground rather than flying with the phara and using buildings for cover. you popped guardian angel when your team was just about wiped as a means of self preservation when the mcree was in high noon. youre not positioning well, not reviving anyone and damage boosting/healing targets of low priority

This is about what I was going to say. I just want to add I kept seeing your team with the low health icon, in positions you could easily get to, but you don't jump in to heal, and then just watch them die.
You had a pharah in the first game, I would have stayed in the air most of the time with damage boost on pharah, then jump jump down to heal who needs it on the ground, then jump back to pharah so you're in less danger.

I also watched the last game in the video and it wasn't very good. I mean there's like no teamwork which isn't really your fault. But there were several times where as mercy you took out your gun and jumped into a losing battle instead of using GA to get away and heal/regroup. I watched your team mates die preventable deaths while you were shooting other people.

killdatninja · Nov 22, 2017

antitrop said:
gg and glhf are both equally meaningless.

Nobody says glhf in Overwatch anyway, but it was common in StarCraft.

There was a time when GG/glhf actually meant something, but I don't think it's ever been genuine in OW. Now the only time I ever see it is when someone wins, the same people who say "gr" when they clearly stomped the enemy team.

ohkay · Nov 22, 2017

N3WTYPE said:
also tracer needs a slight tune down probably in her ult.

Leave tracer alone!

MCD · Nov 22, 2017

Tracer can get one shotted by half the cast lol.

Junk can now easily tilt most Tracers. She is only strong when

A- you have good aim

B- you don't focus on her. When she uses recall call your teammates and punish her

I play Tracer and get pissed at my inconsistent aim most of the time but she is a fun and balanced character. Sometimes I get tilted if I play Zen and she focuses on me but it's the team's job to protect the support. I have a friend who plays Doomfist, he is a god at Doomfist and he protected my ass for three games in a row. Tracer couldn't touch me at all. Kept getting Doomfisted.

Tl;dr if you hate Tracer try to play as Tracer to understand the character a bit or/and play her counters even if they are "soft-counters. You got McCree, Pharah, Junk, Roadhog's hook, Doomfist. Heck even Mei can one headshot her. As a Tracer player I also get tilted by Hanzo's cheap ass scatter all the time.

NediarPT88 · Nov 22, 2017

Tracer could have her ult charge slighty nerfed and that's it.

turbobrick · Nov 22, 2017

killdatninja said:
There was a time when GG/glhf actually meant something, but I don't think it's ever been genuine in OW. Now the only time I ever see it is when someone wins, the same people who say "gr" when they clearly stomped the enemy team.

I hate getting the "gg" from the enemy team after getting completely stomped on.

MCD · Nov 22, 2017

NediarPT88 said:
Tracer could have her ult charge slighty nerfed and that's it.

Technically she already got her Ult nerfed. Go to /r/Overwatch there are plenty of Tracer mains complaining about her ult vanishing even after she does the whole handtoss animation.

It's a weird...I don't wanna call it bug so dunno what to call it tbh. The update where they made Genji and Soldier not lose their ult when they get stunned etc. For Tracer if she toss and dies even after she does the whole animation her ult disappears. It's weird and lissing lots of folks there.

NediarPT88 · Nov 22, 2017

MCD said:
Technically she already got her Ult nerfed. Go to /r/Overwatch there are plenty of Tracer mains complaining about her ult vanishing even after she does the whole handtoss animation.

It's a weird...I don't wanna call it bug so dunno what to call it tbh. The update where they made Genji and Soldier not lose their ult when they get stunned etc. For Tracer if she toss and dies even after she does the whole animation her ult disappears. It's weird and lissing lots of folks there.

Yeah I've seen those. It's dumb.

Nocturnowl · Nov 22, 2017

Tracer is an odd one, when she's running wild it's like "no one can stop her! god damn this character!" yet all the points MCD said are why I tend to struggle playing as her these days, tripping over Junk's stuff, the supreme whip around one shot Hanzos.
Of course I find the problem is usually that people don't focus her enough.

Not a good day for me this one, got tilted pretty quick by the sheer amount of flicky motion gold gun Widows and Hanzos popping up in every blasted PS4 match when I wasn't a tank and then when I was a tank I would be the only one so focused fire on my huge target self. Also a surprisingly high number of teabagging at my expense even by OW standards for like anything, at least the Tracer who did this got sniped in the face and then it appeared in the play of the game so everyone could witness their shame.

BDS · Nov 22, 2017

Jesus...I just did a placement, with at least four grandmaster or GM smurf accounts (on both teams). We managed to win but uh, the matchmaking is a shitshow right now.

rulerk1 · Nov 22, 2017

i have better qp matches than i do comp. I rarely see anyone be actually useless in QP (unless snipers of course). They seem smarter there too because i see actual character counter picks when shit isn't working. Rant over

Plywood · Nov 22, 2017

rulerk1 said:
i have better qp matches than i do comp. I rarely see anyone be actually useless in QP (unless snipers of course). They seem smarter there too because i see actual character counter picks when shit isn't working. Rant over

I've had a lot of QP matches lately where I cannot get my team on objective and it's gotten to the point where I can predict which games are a loss as a result. It's gotten really irritating and makes me want to not play.

Nepenthe · Nov 22, 2017

rulerk1 said:
i have better qp matches than i do comp. I rarely see anyone be actually useless in QP (unless snipers of course). They seem smarter there too because i see actual character counter picks when shit isn't working. Rant over

Yeah, the general rule of thumb I've experienced is that more qp matches on average will be competent and competitive. However, the absolute most insane matches I've had have occurred in comp. But they're rare. Might be a law of averages though- you get through more qp matches than comp ones.

rulerk1 · Nov 22, 2017

Nepenthe said:
Yeah, the general rule of thumb I've experienced is that more qp matches on average will be competent and competitive. However, the absolute most insane matches I've had have occurred in comp. But they're rare. Might be a law of averages though- you get through more qp matches than comp ones.

yeah i just dont know why. Usually when i play qp its with ppl diamond Diamond and up maybe the game sense is just higher there than the diamonds i play with in comp.

didnt know icecold was here either BlessRNG

Old Man Spike · Nov 22, 2017

Things were going pretty badly for me in this game; then suddenly I was Mei and everything just clicked.

antitrop said:
gg and glhf are both equally meaningless.

Nobody says glhf in Overwatch anyway, but it was common in StarCraft.

Nepenthe said:
I get a lot of glhf's in my matches. Maybe people down here in Silver Hell are just nicer.

killdatninja said:
There was a time when GG/glhf actually meant something, but I don't think it's ever been genuine in OW. Now the only time I ever see it is when someone wins, the same people who say "gr" when they clearly stomped the enemy team.

I've seen a few "glhf" before matches too, but not nearly as often as I see "gg" and it strikes me as something people either just rattle off without thinking (making it meaningless), or because they stomped the opposing team (making it sarcasm).

Nepenthe · Nov 22, 2017

I say gr/gg on matches that are reasonably competitive and could've gone either way. However, I roll my eyes at people who say it on blowouts.

Fuck any hoes saying "ez" though. You can kiss my ass with that.

Lemstar · Nov 22, 2017

"gg ez" wasn't even a thing until blizzard made it a thing

NediarPT88 · Nov 23, 2017

Saebyeolbe is such a god, just saw a beautiful potg by him on Seagull's stream (he was on his team), just destroyed Jake lol

Edit: when you see seagull as a full-charged zarya not being able to track a junkrat tire you know blizz fucked up. What a shitty broken ult

jokingbird · Nov 23, 2017

I say gg on all chat and gr on team chat. That is how I feel it should be done. EZ is just spiteful. It is nice to crush people who say that one round and then lose the Comp match.

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