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Milo Yiannopoulos shouted out of NYC bar by crowd chanting 'Nazi scum get out'
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He's not a Nazi his gimmick is just making people believe he's a Nazi due to Nazi-like actions.
The "it's a prank, bro" defense?
Its just trolling. Sort of like how LeBron James is trolling by acting like a basketball player. Sure he wears a uniform and plays on a team with other basketball players and he gets paid by the NBA, but its all an act. He is just trolling. Hes not really a basketball player. Hes a troll.
I do think Milo is a huge troll
But there's a long history of characters seeping their way into the creators' personalites, sometimes making it nigh-impossible to distinguish between the two
And where I come from, if someone wants to be enough of a trolly piece of shit to provoke people by pretending to be a Nazi, we take it at face value and respond accordingly.
Pretend to be a Nazi, get treated like a Nazi.
But there's a long history of characters seeping their way into the creators' personalites, sometimes making it nigh-impossible to distinguish between the two
And where I come from, if someone wants to be enough of a trolly piece of shit to provoke people by pretending to be a Nazi, we take it at face value and respond accordingly.
Pretend to be a Nazi, get treated like a Nazi.
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The fun part of the troll defense is that it's basically carte-blanche for repugnant and dangerous behaviour to be handwaved because, hey, moral free market!
Yeah, exactly this. When it's unclear whether people like him push this shit for the money/attention or because they actually fully believe it, and in the meantime they're just encouraging people who certainly believe it... why treat them any differently?
Rather, anyone comfortable enough with actual Nazis/white supremacists to "troll" people by associating with them is not any better if it turns out they were doing it for the attention.
Just bouncing off this comment, I've noticed that many conservatives on social media try to portray liberals as Nazi's because liberals won't tolerate conservatives' Nazi-endorsing comments. We live in weird times.
Yes he did but all I see looking at this is a guy who loves to provoke people and using any means to get attention and it is so obvious he is a troll.
Well he is married to a black guy (no really he is) and he is a jew so that is why I kind of doubt he actually is real Nazi who supports actual Nazi policies and if he is then he really sucks at it.
I think this guy rose to prominence because he succeeded in pissing people off by acting like an asshole, and you can see the emotions he is able to provoke in this thread alone he is a troll at best who even managed to piss of conservatives and was thrown out of CPAC.
Also I don't like this guy at all he is a shitty human being regardless.
People need to stop defending him.
If you hang about with Nazis and act like a Nazi, you're a Nazi.
If he gets heckled out of bars then it's no less than he deserves.
If you hang about with Nazis and act like a Nazi, you're a Nazi.
If he gets heckled out of bars then it's no less than he deserves.
The "but he's Jewish" argument got old years ago. Him being self-hating over that and his sexuality is a known thing, and what is the reaction supposed to be anyway? "Oh, he's Jewish, so it's actually cool that he's pals with Nazis and only pretends to agree with them?"
yall continue to tread a line between dangerously ignorant and subversively defensive.
"milo is a troll not a nazi" is not really the hill you want to die on when there is an abundance of information out there on him. Do not use his jewishness or black boyfriend as a defense.
"milo is a troll not a nazi" is not really the hill you want to die on when there is an abundance of information out there on him. Do not use his jewishness or black boyfriend as a defense.
Yeah comparing him to jews who betrayed other jews in the holocaust is a bit of stretch don't you think lets keep false equivalencies out of this, and talk about what he actually is a TROLL who has all of you up in arms which is precisely what he wants it adds fuel to his lies.
He is a scumbag who uses our outrage to push a false narrative and then he plays the victim afterwards he is a piece of shit stop giving him attention.
The concept that a member of a minority group can't be a member of a hate group opposed to them is a fallacy that has historical precedent.
One example is Dan Burros: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Burros
The dollop podcast (which is hilarious in general) did an episode on him: http://thedollop.libsyn.com/34-smollop-dan-burros
You claim that Milo cannot be a nazi due to his Jewish heritage. I have provided evidence that heritage does not serve as in impediment for collaborating with nazis.
is this like some sort of double troll where you're being stupid on purpose?
No I am not I really don't understand why he is even given so much attention he is a Troll with shitty opinions I don't wanna give him any attention because that is what he wants.
You sure as hell aren't doing any of that in this thread.
Nazism is nothing but a set of dangerous and hateful beliefs. If he pushes those beliefs because he's an actual "Nazi" or because he's just a "troll", what the fuck is the difference? Why does a distinction really matter?
then you should probably take the time to read the lengthy buzzfeed piece on why he's not just simply "a troll".
You see, actions don't really matter. It's what's in his heart of hearts that does.
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Go fuck yourself I have a scar on my stomach after being stabbed by a Neo Nazi and my mom got death threats since she dated a hispanic guy FUCK YOU
I have had my issue growing up as mixed in Norway and don't you dare claim I was defending him I was pointing out the fact that assholes like are given way to much attention.
You are literally defending his nazism by downplaying his nazism and calling it trolling.
So yeah, you are defending a Nazi.
Not giving them attention doesn't magically make them go away. Nazis and hateful rhetoric deserve our attention.
I can't remember which thread it was in, but someone asked if "Isn't he Norwegian though?" was becoming a meme for explaining a troll's supposed lack of self awareness.
Going to say that ship has sailed here.
norwegiandude86 Ironic Nazis are still considered Nazis, even if he's doing Andy Kaufman levels of acting as a character. There are multiple instances of him acting like a massive bigot, making very derogatory remarks of Jews, and anyone who isnt straight or white. You are trying too hard to justify him as just a troll.
Ironic Nazis are still Nazis
Ironic Nazis are still Nazis
Fuck you again
I agree with that and we need to fight this rhetoric by coming together against it and more importantly we need to strangle the ideas of Nazism and white supremacy, and when people like Tara McCarthy or Richard Spencer show up to speak at a college campus we protest and do our damnedest to let them know we are not gonna allow their garbage ideas to ever flourish ever again.
"Not giving them attention" directly translates to "Stop pointing out the problem" and that's how we got Trump.
Well, the people at the bar protested and got a Nazi kicked out, so that was good, right?
I agree with you and we need to fight rhetoric like this here in Europe there is a group who terrifies me at the moment and that generation identity those fuckers scare the hell out of me.
Aight then. You were the one doing it though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So what exactly is the difference between Milo and Spencer? Because you've decided one is a troll? The people at this bar did exactly what you suggested.
I think Spencer is more dangerous than Milo and Spencer actually argues for a white ethno state, if I ever crossed path with that guy a punch in the face would be least of his concern.
Spencer ideas and the way he promotes his ideas is something that scares me more.
Openly spending your life as a Nazi, espousing Nazi ideals and being a general dickface to everyone is all okay guys. It's just TROLLING. Gosh, that makes it all so much better now dunnit