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Metroid Prime 4 - Let’s Talk about Sylux, and how weird his situation is.
- Thread starter Phendrift
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Lol.
This is why Metroid needs to go back to being a game with almost no story telling, and bring back the feeling of being alone in a dangerous planet.
They could (re)learn a few things from Souls.
The guy literally shows up in the post-credits for the two last games named "Prime" and the producer is talking for years how he would show up in the next game. Why would you doubt it?
If they have to learn from something, it's from Prime 1.
Well you're not up to speed then. Sylux was in both PRime 3 and federation force post credit stingers and Tanabe wants to include him. (Unfortunately for us. Hopefully just as metroid food, but I doubt it somehow.)
My only question is: Why him? Out of all the other bounty hunters between Hunters and Corruption, they chose Sylux? Weavel has better motivation (space pirate and got fucked up by Samus), hell even Kanden does (rogue super solider experiment gone AWOL). Sylux just... hates Samus?
At the end of the day though, it doesn't really matter to me as long as the game is good.
oh, but can we have Rundas back? ._.
No you don't. They don't even explain the hunters' motivations in the game. They were explained on the website and in other promo material.
hey, you take that back
Hunters had an amazing online play. And for years it was Nintendo's best online system in a game, with friends, voice chat, rival system, and stat tracking.
There are some redeeming qualities from Hunters, including the controls.
At the end of the day though, it doesn't really matter to me as long as the game is good.
oh, but can we have Rundas back? ._.
No you don't. They don't even explain the hunters' motivations in the game. They were explained on the website and in other promo material.
hey, you take that back
Hunters had an amazing online play. And for years it was Nintendo's best online system in a game, with friends, voice chat, rival system, and stat tracking.
There are some redeeming qualities from Hunters, including the controls.
This is ironic. They could learn a few things from Souls, like actual characterization of the villains.
Is Sylux the Thanos of Nintendo?
I hope they redesign him so he doesn't look like a sharpie pen transformer.
I hope they redesign him so he doesn't look like a sharpie pen transformer.
Lol so will this guy be the controversial thing that causes Metroid fans to skip yet another entry in their beloved series? I can't wait until the proper reveal.
It really isn't Sylux itself.... it's more the fact that the Galactic Federation is the single most generic and uninteresting element in the Metroid universe.
All we know about Sylux is that "he hates Samus and the GF", so it's easy to assume that, if Sylux is a villain in MP4, the GF will play a BIG role in the game..... and some people are just kinda..... eh..... about it.
Sylux needs to be reimagined from the ground up, he's lame as hell and i hope he's nowhere to be seen in MP4
Controversial even though he never said a word. The Metroid fanbase at its best.
I couldnt care less. i just want a new 3D Metroid that doenst betray the franchise or the character of Samus. If it has to be a new Prime so be it but the trilogy is over. Lets not go back to Phazon please.
Can you imagine controlling a Prime game with **gasp** dual analog controls? That will be the day!
This is from a series which feature "Space Pirates". Every inch of general lore surrounding Prime is generic and uninspiring as hell. It is more about the games themselves they were featured in and how the factions were handled than the Galactic Force itself.
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I don't really get the problem. He's a blank slate essentially. It's always a good idea for a game to have a general storyline, and (if there's a villain) villains with motivations. It doesn't need to be shoved in our face constantly during gameplay, but that doesn't mean it can't exist.
That was my first thought when I read that too haha
That was my first thought when I read that too haha
Honestly I'm terrified this games controls will be fucked. Nintendo of Japan has never made an FPS to my knowledge. Hope theyvth got ID or Retro doing consulting.
And yet, aside from the unfortunate name, they are actually a different alien race, with cool designs, and are led by a giant living brain and a winged dragon.
The Federation are just.... space marines... and have the whole "a faction of them was evil all along" thing going on for some games now, which is the blandest thing they could do with the concept.
After BotW I have zero worries they might fuck up something as common in 2018 as FPS controls. This isnt 2002 anymore where consoles were only coming to fully grasp a standarized FPS control scheme, and this Switch isnt the Wii or the WiiU. I'm sure we'll get optional motion controls and a classic one stick Prime scheme but Im also certian they will give a dual analog option. They cant have an FPS in 2019 without that.
But why him
There is literally no defining factor about him other than he looks like a McDonalds Happy Meal Toy reject.
You could with ease make hundreds of more interesting, cooler and more fitting to the series characters. Why does it just have to be Sylux? If he's a blank slate, then we would lose literally nothing by throwing him away, and we could have a villain that's interesting instead.
Just redesign him and call it a day. The humans in the last Metroid Prime spinoff game were redesigned to have giant heads, who cares if Sylux is redesigned to look a lot cooler?
I don't necessarily want him to be in the game, but clearly the two cutscenes in the OP suggest he'll be a big focus of the plot at some point. Let's make the best of it.
I will agree that if they turn him into a different character altogether he could turn out fine.
I don't know why him, but he's a blank state like you said. It's hard for me to hate a character that never did anything bad to these games. I also think he fits the series, his design is pretty alien and he's a bounty hunter that doesn't speak anything.
They can redesign him (and probably will). I just don't care too much about why or why not use Sylux (they will tho, so I won't bother getting mad at it before seeing the execution), I just don't want a lot of exposition in the main story, but I don't think that depends on Sylux.
Why does Sylux have to have previous characterization? Literally the options for Prime 4 are: A new character with no previous characterization, or classic Motherbrain/Ridley.
I haven't played any of the games Sylux was in so i don't really have an opinion on him. Metroid bosses aren't exactly deep or overly present in the story usually, so i hope him being a sorta recurring character doesn't mean we're getting too much plot in the game. I think Corruption was already pushing it.
They've kinda done "evil superpowered Samus clone" twice in the Metroid games, but I think Sylux could be interesting as an actual inversion of Samus's character: make him a bounty hunter who was raised by the Space Pirates just like Samus was raised by the Chozo. I don't think anyone wants Prime 4 to be some kind of giant lore dump, but a good straightforward/simply-understood antagonist with an engaging personality would be great.
I do not care about any (specific) characters in the Metroid universe, do not want to learn anything more about them, and have no use for this stupid character design. Just build some hostile (non-verbal) aliens and scatter some planet-specific lore for me to read, and we're good.
Metroid is so ripe for a cool story, characters, setting etc. Just anything really so much potential there but it seems the series doesn't really have the leads to bring it to that level.
We have yet to see any of Prime 4 so this could all be in vain, but the series certainly needs some fresh ideas to really return to what we love it as
We have yet to see any of Prime 4 so this could all be in vain, but the series certainly needs some fresh ideas to really return to what we love it as
These are the least exciting things to ever try make something sound exciting. The designs and behaviour of the space pirates in Prime are as generic as it gets.
Omega Pirate is literally Federation Force-tier bad. Like I said, the general lore in Prime is just extremely uninsipired all around. The Galactic Force is not some grand outlier.
I don't get why Metroid Prime 4 needs a "story". Prime 1 didn't have a story other then some few cutscenes, but you kinda figured out the story or lore by scanning the enviroment. I pray they use the Prime 1 template and create something similar to that game in terms of the worlds and its enviroments, along with great enemy designs and an atmospheric soundtrack. Isolation, exploration and atmosphere is what really makes a Metroid game truly great.
Never understood the apparent motivation to try and make Sylux a thing.
He was just one of 6 random shells made for Hunters because it needed characters for its multiplayer mode. It was novel having different characters and types of weapons in a Metroid spinoff, but they all had backstories you could write on the back of a postage stamp.
Nobody cares about him, nobody cares about trying to make him happen.
He was just one of 6 random shells made for Hunters because it needed characters for its multiplayer mode. It was novel having different characters and types of weapons in a Metroid spinoff, but they all had backstories you could write on the back of a postage stamp.
Nobody cares about him, nobody cares about trying to make him happen.
This so much. If it wasnt for Era and before this g-a-f I swear I wouldnt remember that this guy existed, much less his name. He was completely forgettable.
Well, the Federation turned to be corrupted in the end of Mother M and Fusion, why not make the federation hunts Samus or Samus hunt the corrupted federation
Eh, yes, the Phazon story was the main point of Prime , unless focuses now into Hunters and fight for the remaining phazon
I think most people just find him boring. I wouldn't be surprised if the average Metroid fan didn't know who he was.
Im willing to bet you anything that that they are dropping the number but not the subtitle. MP4 was just a placeholder title given to us so that Samus Returns didnt get a Federation Force backlash because of fans feeling Nintendo didnt care enough. The damn MP4 logo wasnt even completely new! The Metroid Prime in the logo was a rehash from MP3, only the "4" was new.
Come this E3 I hope we'll learn its subtitle and they're dropping the 4 but its too late to drop Prime.