Metaphor: ReFantazio - PC Performance Thread

vestan · 2024-09-25T16:40:09-0400

Thought this was worth making considering performance is looking kinda spooky + most of the posts in the demo thread are all that.

i7 7700k/1080 Ti here. Older rig but it should still be able to knock this one out of the park. Performance is all over the place for me especially in large open spaces like Grand Trad. There's also jaggies EVERYWHERE. Might just scale up as far as I can, lock it at 30FPS and call it a day. The fluctuations are what's bothering me.

I'll update the OP as community suggestions and fixes come in.

The game opens with rendering scale at 200% which could explain frame rate issues for you. Make sure to turn that back down to 100%
Slow performance could also be due to the game incorrectly using integrated graphics. If this is the case, switch to your GPU in Windows Graphics Settings

CPU Affinity Fix:

Start the game, start Task Manager, go to Details, right click Metaphor.exe and change Affinity, set it to one core and save. Repeat and tick all cores back again and it will not go back to eating one whole core and causing these issues again. Sadly you need to do this every time you start the game.

DXVK Fix:

People are reporting that DXVK dramatically increases performance. Download it and drag its contents into the Metaphor directory. If this doesn't work try disabling RTSS if you have it installed.

Release Version 2.4 · doitsujin/dxvk

D3D8 support D8VK is now part of DXVK, and implements D3D8 largely on top of the existing D3D9 implementation. Please refer to pull request #3411 for further details. Native WSI changes dxvk-native...

github.com

SpecialK Performance Fix:

Metaphor: ReFantazio :: Steam Community

steamcommunity.com

This game has absolutely insane timing code under the hood that's causing some of the worst performance I have ever seen in a game. I threw together a patch to remove the bulk of the offending threading code and replace it with more efficient scheduling.

None of the problems are graphics API related, they should be so lucky :)

Extract this to your game's directory and it will apply the fixes automatically.

MINIMUM:

Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i5-3470 or AMD FX-6300
Memory: 6 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 4GB or AMD Radeon R7 360, 4GB or Intel Arc A310, 4GB
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 93 GB available space
Additional Notes: 720p @ 30 FPS. A CPU with AVX support is required.

RECOMMENDED:

Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i5-7600 or Ryzen 5 2600
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, 4GB or AMD Radeon RX 480, 4GB or Intel Arc A380, 6GB
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 93 GB available space
Additional Notes: 1080p @ 60 FPS. A CPU with AVX support is required.

Helix · 2024-09-25T16:41:20-0400

it's shit

Linus815 · 2024-09-25T16:41:42-0400

locking at 75 fps on my ryzen 7700 and rtx 4070 nets a pretty stable experience at 150% res scale (1440p)
locking at 60 fps makes it basically 100% stable

Galaxea · 2024-09-25T16:42:00-0400

Helix said:
it's shit

Yeah it's rough but playable. I hope some patches fix it asap.

RoshuanNL · 2024-09-25T16:42:46-0400

holy, I heard about the performance from others (mine is still downloading), but I should be able to run it well based on these recommended specs... weird, might it get a day one patch or something?

nsilvias · 2024-09-25T16:44:40-0400

runs well at 1080p 60 with 100% render scale on my 1660 ti ryzen 4800h but it runs too heavy for a ps3 looking game. forza horizon 4 doesn't run this heavy on my system

burgerdog · 2024-09-25T16:44:43-0400

My pc will be fine but that does not excuse the terrible performance. Another day, another bad port.

Patitoloco · 2024-09-25T16:44:52-0400

Honestly quite bad from my side.

With a 3080/13700k, at 4k (100% res scale) and all turned on, there are many section where it doesn't go above 45fps while using like 50% tops of the GPU.

Seems very bad optimized.

ramyeon · 2024-09-25T16:45:31-0400

Runs pretty poorly on my 7800x3D + 4080 machine. Inexcusably so to be honest. Really in dire need of optimization and DLSS.

vestan · 2024-09-25T16:48:19-0400

It's so crazy this game doesn't have a TAA solution. This game is built on some really ancient tech.

EssBeeVee · 2024-09-25T16:48:27-0400

when recommended is potato level but perf is shit. its a GG.

ill try when i get home myself.

tandeciarz · 2024-09-25T16:49:05-0400

Good lord… no time to focus on the right priorities in terms of doing a competent PC port but there was time to add DRM, this sucks

nsilvias · 2024-09-25T16:50:43-0400

if they could patch the game to use more than 1 cpu core it would probably fix the performance issues entirely

KujoJosuke · 2024-09-25T16:50:53-0400

i5-8600k/RTX4070/1080p here and it's okay at normal textures, 100% scaling, at 60fps. But it should be running way better than just "ok" considering how it looks

mrtanooki · 2024-09-25T16:51:40-0400

tandeciarz said:
Good lord… no time to focus on the right priorities in terms of doing a competent PC port but there was time to add DRM, this sucks

Things are not really any better on console. Both PS5 and Series X have regular frame rate drops. They seem to be asking for more than the old Persona 5 engine can give.

Dest · 2024-09-25T16:52:41-0400

I'm going to assume it doesn't, but does it support ultrawide resolutions?

Lulu · 2024-09-25T16:52:49-0400

call durant

vestan · 2024-09-25T16:53:11-0400

Dest said:
I'm going to assume it doesn't, but does it support ultrawide resolutions?

Nope :D
Just like P5R. Had to switch to my second monitor but I reckon it'll get a fan fix (also just like P5R).

Arsene no Kiseki · 2024-09-25T16:53:42-0400

Copied from the Steam forums but this improved performance for me

Start the game start Task manager go to Details right click Metaphor.exe and change Affinity, set it to one core save, Repeat and tick all cores back again and for some reason it will not go back to eating one whole core and causing these issues again. Sadly you need to do this every time you start the game.

Apparently using DXVK works for some people too.

jschreier · 2024-09-25T16:53:55-0400

I'm playing on a review code but just a PSA that when I loaded it up on Steam, it was running at like 10fps and I had no idea why (I have a 4070ti)... until I found out it was using integrated graphics for some inexplicable reason. I had to switch it to use the GPU manually in my Windows graphics settings. Just in case this helps fix the performance for anyone!

Vic20 · 2024-09-25T16:54:33-0400

vestan said:
It's so crazy this game doesn't have a TAA solution. This game is built on some really ancient tech.

the "fuck taa" guys love this game.

Dest · 2024-09-25T16:54:34-0400

vestan said:
Nope :D
Just like P5R. Had to switch to my second monitor but I reckon it'll get a fan fix (also just like P5R).

Hooray! Just as I expected!
Lyall save me!

PlayBee · 2024-09-25T16:55:00-0400

Recommended specs are ancient. How could it run so poorly?

Dukie85 · 2024-09-25T16:55:35-0400

Man... I haven't seen mention of an RX 480 for ANYTHING in ages...

nsilvias · 2024-09-25T16:56:15-0400

PlayBee said:
Recommended specs are ancient. How could it run so poorly?

poor cpu utilization

Arsene no Kiseki · 2024-09-25T16:56:29-0400

PlayBee said:
Recommended specs are ancient. How could it run so poorly?

The game is only using one CPU core lol

vestan · 2024-09-25T16:56:38-0400

Vic20 said:
the "fuck taa" guys love this game.

😂 😂

Arsene no Kiseki said:
Copied from the Steam forums but this improved performance for me

Apparently using DXVK works for some people too.

Lmfao I remember having to do this with Dishonored 2's disastrous port at launch.

Dest said:
Hooray! Just as I expected!
Lyall save me!

Gotta look at the bright side. Glad they put this demo out now so all the little fan fixes and patches should be ready by launch.

Danielsan · 2024-09-25T16:57:28-0400

Played for 30 minutes at max graphics and 60fps. Seemed okay with some dips.
Graphically the game looks like ass. I love the style of it all, but the graphics are giving me Fire Emblem Three Houses flashbacks.

Ada · 2024-09-25T16:57:40-0400

My save transferred fine from SD to desktop. Running 4k 100% render scale and getting 100-120fps.

thestateriver · 2024-09-25T16:57:44-0400

do ultrawide monitors exist in japan? i think death stranding is about the only japanese aaa pc game that had support

OhhEldenRing · 2024-09-25T16:58:09-0400

I hope it's just because it's older code for a demo that's unoptimized

Patitoloco · 2024-09-25T16:59:25-0400

OhhEldenRing said:
I hope it's just because it's older code for a demo that's unoptimized

One could hope!

Atlus hasn't been completely terrible with their PC ports, but not great either.

Darryl M R · 2024-09-25T17:00:11-0400

It's wild to hear about the poor performance for the Steam Deck

Dest · 2024-09-25T17:00:50-0400

vestan said:
Gotta look at the bright side. Glad they put this demo out now so all the little fan fixes and patches should be ready by launch.

Yeah, I just wish Atlus would put that liiiiiiiiitle bit of extra work on their PC ports. Though, people showing up for this stuff anyway (me included) so there's probably not a whole lot of motivation to do so.

Sabin · 2024-09-25T17:00:54-0400

Maybe that helps some.

View: https://x.com/HD_Kirin/status/1839019887806787707

Elven_Star · 2024-09-25T17:00:57-0400

Can modders fix the CPU situation?

Danielsan · 2024-09-25T17:02:32-0400

thestateriver said:
do ultrawide monitors exist in japan? i think death stranding is about the only japanese aaa pc game that had support

It's really annoying for sure. But honestly. Most Japanese PC ports are extremely bare bones in terms of settings.

bob1001 · 2024-09-25T17:02:39-0400

It's meh, mostly sticking to 60-ish, only made it to the fortress and getting the odd drop to 50. I like the art style but graphically this game is dogshit so the performance is not warranted, having said that 60-ish isn't unplayable.

Mekanos · 2024-09-25T17:03:40-0400

Disappointing that it seems like it's choking so much with 2 weeks until release. I really hope it gets addressed somehow.

vestan · 2024-09-25T17:04:33-0400

Dest said:
Yeah, I just wish Atlus would put that liiiiiiiiitle bit of extra work on their PC ports. Though, people showing up for this stuff anyway (me included) so there's probably not a whole lot of motivation to do so.

P3R and SMTVV were buttery. So happy they're moving away from their in-house engine.

Sabin said:
Maybe that helps some.

View: https://x.com/HD_Kirin/status/1839019887806787707

Yep I noticed this immediately upon booting and going to the graphics menu.

astro · 2024-09-25T17:05:01-0400

How does the game run on consoles?

Arsene no Kiseki · 2024-09-25T17:05:06-0400

Elven_Star said:
Can modders fix the CPU situation?

Changing your CPU affinity to 1 core and then changing it back to all cores seems to be fixing it for some people (including me).

You have to do it every time you open the game though which is annoying

mrtanooki · 2024-09-25T17:06:19-0400

astro said:
How does the game run on consoles?

Same issues. In open areas the frame rate drops.

astro · 2024-09-25T17:07:27-0400

mrtanooki said:
Same issues. In open areas the frame rate drops.

So less a bad port and more of the game inehrently having some issues.

Hopefully they can figure this out. For a game this long I don't think I can handle constant frame rate drops.

Mesoian · 2024-09-25T17:07:48-0400

Lulu said:
call durant

He's busy

ZeroMaverick · 2024-09-25T17:08:12-0400

So based on the demo's PC performance, would the PS5 be a better place to get the game or will they most likely fix it before launch?

Okabe · 2024-09-25T17:09:58-0400

did a little 1080p rig test and I have it locked to 60 on a 1660 super with no drops (high texture and 100% render)

mrtanooki · 2024-09-25T17:12:02-0400

ZeroMaverick said:
So based on the demo's PC performance, would the PS5 be a better place to get the game or will they most likely fix it before launch?

PS5 and Series X have frame rate drops too. Its a game engine issue.

MimosaSTG · 2024-09-25T17:14:23-0400

ZeroMaverick said:
So based on the demo's PC performance, would the PS5 be a better place to get the game or will they most likely fix it before launch?

No... This is an engine issue. Not a port issue.

JMY86 · 2024-09-25T17:14:59-0400

thestateriver said:
do ultrawide monitors exist in japan? i think death stranding is about the only japanese aaa pc game that had support

It's so frustrating how little support ultrawide monitors get from Japanese developers, even in 2024.

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