Metaphor: ReFantazio Demo Now Available (Save Data transfers to release)

Metroidvania · 2024-09-27T11:35:20-0400

I'm curious as to how overpowered you can make the MC if you hardcore specialize - being able to allocate 1 point manually, and then focusing on a specific tree (i.e. str for warrior, magic for mage/healer) for each level up seems like it could get pretty powerful, pretty quickly.

I'm sure that eventually, buffs/debuffs will start mattering more, especially if there's a damage cap, but it makes me feel slightly bad about picking luck for the free stat most of the time, even if my cash flow isn't a problem thanks to drops, lol.

Cruising through the 'story' dungeon effortlessly after going through the optional dungeon first and auto-clearing most every mob, lol.

Xenosaga · 2024-09-27T11:37:17-0400

View: https://x.com/Atlus_korea/status/1839683870159143006

Atlus Korea accounts says they acknowledge the performance issue with the demo and they are looking into it.
If they can patch it out, they will post it on their social media.

AgentLampshade · 2024-09-27T11:39:22-0400

"What is your name?"
> Enters fantasy name.

A little while later.
"What is your protagonists name?"
> Awkward silence.

QisTopTier · 2024-09-27T11:42:51-0400

AgentLampshade said:
"What is your name?"
> Enters fantasy name.

A little while later.
"What is your protagonists name?"
> Awkward silence.

I mean it did ask for the name of the person playing the game and it said you can name the protag later LOL

AgentLampshade · 2024-09-27T11:43:39-0400

QisTopTier said:
I mean it did ask for the name of the person playing the game and it said you can name the protag later LOL

Never playing this after work again. I clearly cannot read.

Xenosaga · 2024-09-27T12:18:01-0400

Majunior · 2024-09-27T12:52:58-0400

Xenosaga said:

I know the graphics might not be hot stuff, but some of the character portraits are actually amazing. The MC looks way better in portraits imo.

silva1991 · 2024-09-27T13:02:05-0400

I can't believe this demo is still going.

I beat Griuss and the next day I can still continue. 10 hours so far. I'm done for today lol.

burgerdog · 2024-09-27T13:13:23-0400

Where is this optional dungeon you guys are talking about? I'm at the point where I have to go to a mausoleum.

vestan · 2024-09-27T13:14:24-0400

Gonna try killing Guptauros with a warrior and two knights. The pierce synthesis skill you get seems really good against him.

Kotetsu534 said:
You can also recover the MC's MP with the Mage Archetype's passive (which automatically restores MP when you kill enemies without going into turn-based combat).

This. There's a lot of fodder enemies in the goblin dungeon so just deal with the yellow/red enemies in squad with Healer then switch to Mage and kill the weaker enemies for easy MP.

burgerdog said:
Where is this optional dungeon you guys are talking about? I'm at the point where I have to go to a mausoleum.

Get your wisdom to 2 by sightseeing at the bench + doing the cooking request for the NPC right outside of the alley from the main street entrance then talk to Brigitta outside her igniter shop.

Mars People · 2024-09-27T13:14:37-0400

Be nice if they could add some anti aliasing options to PC. Or...DLSS.

Ashes of Dreams · 2024-09-27T13:16:23-0400

So, has Atlus actually said anything about the difficulties in the past few days that I missed?

I found this IGN article that claims Regicide is NG+ and has more descriptions than the game does:

Metaphor: ReFantazio Walkthrough - Metaphor: ReFantazio Guide - IGN

Metaphor: ReFantazio is the tale of the fantastical journey where you must venture to lift the curse from your best friend - your kingdom’s lost prince.

www.ign.com

Is this confirmed? I stopped playing the demo because I intended to restart on the highest difficulty but if it's actually NG+ locked, I'll just keep going.

Xavi · 2024-09-27T13:21:51-0400

Wait, fuck. Is the dragon missable or you can go back?

Linus815 · 2024-09-27T13:31:08-0400

Mars People said:
Be nice if they could add some anti aliasing options to PC. Or...DLSS.

The game uses SMAA by default.
DLSS is unlikely because the engine most likely doesnt support TAA

burgerdog · 2024-09-27T13:31:56-0400

Mars People said:
Be nice if they could add some anti aliasing options to PC. Or...DLSS.

This game doesn't have motion vectors so dlss is out of the question.

Good looking out vestan !

Red Hunter · 2024-09-27T13:38:05-0400

I'm out of MP at the optional boss. Could I theoretically go to akadaemia, switch everyone to mage, then kill weak enemies to restore my party's MP with its passive ability then go back to the boss or does that not work.

Metroidvania · 2024-09-27T13:40:50-0400

Red Hunter said:
I'm out of MP at the optional boss. Could I theoretically go to akadaemia, switch everyone to mage, then kill weak enemies to restore my party's MP with its passive ability then go back to the boss or does that not work.

It would take a while, but it seems like this could work, yes - as long as you're strong enough to auto-kill all the basic enemies, at least.

It would just take a while, since respawns aren't super quick (not sure if switching floors speeds it up or not)

Mars People · 2024-09-27T13:41:26-0400

Linus815 said:
The game uses SMAA by default.
DLSS is unlikely because the engine most likely doesnt support TAA

SMAA? It doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Joeschmo · 2024-09-27T13:42:03-0400

Red Hunter said:
I'm out of MP at the optional boss. Could I theoretically go to akadaemia, switch everyone to mage, then kill weak enemies to restore my party's MP with its passive ability then go back to the boss or does that not work.

Do enemies even respawn while you are in a dungeon? I haven't really noticed. I guess you could but you get 1 mp per enemy killed, so that's like a lot of enemies needed.

vestan · 2024-09-27T13:43:29-0400

Red Hunter said:
I'm out of MP at the optional boss. Could I theoretically go to akadaemia, switch everyone to mage, then kill weak enemies to restore my party's MP with its passive ability then go back to the boss or does that not work.

You don't need to switch everyone to mage, just your character (it'll refill MP for everyone in your party).

What I would recommend you do is stock up on a bunch of those items that let you teleport to the start of the dungeon again (forgot the name but they're super cheap) and just run through it killing the weaker enemies and avoiding the stronger ones then teleport back and repeat. I need to do the math on this but in the goblin dungeon it's like 30 MP a run I think.

If you started the goblin dungeon on the second day then I would suggest just going back to town and stocking up on the item I mentioned.

burgerdog said:
Good looking out @vestan !

All good :)

mrmickfran · 2024-09-27T13:44:42-0400

Managed to beat the dragon. Was dreading it based on impressions here but it wasn't too bad.

Def impossible without a mage tho

Red Hunter · 2024-09-27T13:45:50-0400

What I am doing is continually stunning the big mob of goblins right outside the boss door and then running from the battle, it restores 1 MP each time for everyone (from the overworld stun), seems pretty quick.

Edit: If you stun multiple at once it can restore 5-7MP per character per battle, this may be the most efficient way.

QisTopTier · 2024-09-27T13:47:14-0400

mrmickfran said:
Managed to beat the dragon. Was dreading it based on impressions here but it wasn't too bad.

Def impossible without a mage tho

used double mage on hard and it melted lol

Red Hunter · 2024-09-27T13:55:59-0400

Edit: Posted instead of editing previous post.

Kami · 2024-09-27T13:57:47-0400

Y'all must be playing on Hard? Cause I beat that dragon first try on Normal.

Red Hunter · 2024-09-27T14:01:59-0400

Kami said:
Y'all must be playing on Hard? Cause I beat that dragon first try on Normal.

At least for me the optional boss I'm talking about isn't the dragon it's a boss at the end of a easily missable dungeon at the very end of the demo (You have to go out of your way to be able to access the dungeon).

Barius · 2024-09-27T14:05:11-0400

AgentLampshade said:
Never playing this after work again. I clearly cannot read.

don't feel bad, i missed that too hahaha

Trigger · 2024-09-27T14:39:14-0400

So the demo ends three days after I recruit Hulkenberg to the party? I'm on day three now exploring the story dungeon.

I didn't know about the optional dungeon, and I'm assuming it's too late for my current save. 😭

Party · 2024-09-27T14:54:41-0400

Did the optional boss... Barely made it after grinding out some levels and getting some MP back. Used basically all my items too. Wonder if the whole game will be this tough for optional stuff.

Also, holy crap I can't believe this demo was 9 hours long for me.

stn · 2024-09-27T14:56:55-0400

Is this based on a series? Im thinking to buy but I want to make sure I wont get lost in the story? This game would be my starting point.

Linus815 · 2024-09-27T14:57:44-0400

stn said:
Is this based on a series? Im thinking to buy but I want to make sure I wont get lost in the story? This game would be my starting point.

its completely new

stn · 2024-09-27T14:58:39-0400

Linus815 said:
its completely new

Cheers, thanks you.

SinnyIndonesian · 2024-09-27T15:02:57-0400

By the time I get back to the Royal Capital, I no longer notice any performance issues on PS5. I'm sure they're still there, but the game feels otherwise snappy as hell.

The little girl Maria is Grius' daughter??? I would have never guessed in a million years, damn. Now I'm sure he'll be killed off, if I wasn't before. :(

Xenosaga said:

squee

ASilentProtagonist · 2024-09-27T15:05:05-0400

How's the difficulty? If you chose Normal first, can you crank it up to Hard?

yagal · 2024-09-27T15:07:36-0400

Xenosaga said:

Very good but dark skin and white hair is very cliché

yagal · 2024-09-27T15:08:26-0400

ASilentProtagonist said:
How's the difficulty? If you chose Normal first, can you crank it up to Hard?

Yes, you can.

DanteMenethil · 2024-09-27T15:09:04-0400

Black characters with white hair is overdone and cliche but goddamn does it look good

Red Hunter · 2024-09-27T15:10:41-0400

Nice, managed to take down the optional dungeon boss.

Ashes of Dreams · 2024-09-27T15:12:28-0400

ASilentProtagonist said:
How's the difficulty? If you chose Normal first, can you crank it up to Hard?

I'm playing the demo on Hard and it seems pretty solid for an Atlus RPG but not ridiculously hard or anything. I would say that anyone who has played a SMT before is more than fine starting on Hard. But indeed you can switch difficulties from Easy, Normal, and Hard. Regicide will not be able to be switched to mid-playthrough, as has become the standard with Atlus highest difficulties from SMT V and P3 Reload. Though I still can't find confirmation that Regicide is NG+ beyond the IGN article I linked above, no idea what their source is for that.

Radokat · 2024-09-27T15:16:57-0400

After not feeling it in the beginning, the game grew on once I played through the mine.
Looking forward to release, if only they could fix the PC port performance.
At least Linux is not so bad and Windows also seems to work better with either DXVK or SpecialK.

Really enjoy the story currently and since it's a new series I don't have the feeling like I'm missing out on something.

Majunior · 2024-09-27T15:27:11-0400

yagal said:
Very good but dark skin and white hair is very cliché

Metaphor seems to have quite a few people of color. There's Neuras, for example. Although he also has white hair, but I think it's because he's old.

Mivey · 2024-09-27T15:28:05-0400

Making my way through the demo and I noticed that the audio is super quiet. Even when I turn the volume up to 80%, which is normally loud enough to hurt my ears (using some studio grade speakers), but in this game it makes barely a difference on PC.

JasperMyst · 2024-09-27T15:31:59-0400

Loved my time with the demo but I think I'm holding off from progressing further.

Personally I think it's a great introduction but just like the Persona games, it's a game series that progressively gets better and better the more you progress in the story as many of the game mechanics are introduced to the player.

The music is also a freaking highlight. My god.

Bushy-Doe Blade · 2024-09-27T15:33:20-0400

Loving this game so far… it's like a super polished Persona. At first I was annoyed by the number of loading screens, but they're not too bad.

Can't shake the feeling I'm playing in a world of monsters and they perceive humans as some otherworldly threat lol.

Darryl M R · 2024-09-27T15:34:34-0400

So if I could play the demo on PS5, Series X, or Steam Deck, which one would provide the best experience based on our current understanding of performance?

yagal · 2024-09-27T15:43:33-0400

Darryl M R said:
So if I could play the demo on PS5, Series X, or Steam Deck, which one would provide the best experience based on our current understanding of performance?

Not the Steam Deck
PS5 and SX should be more or less equal

SinnyIndonesian · 2024-09-27T15:54:23-0400

What I was expecting to happen in the story happened and it still caught me off guard. This is some good fucking food. The next 2 weeks will go painfully slow.

Kami · 2024-09-27T17:26:29-0400

Red Hunter said:
At least for me the optional boss I'm talking about isn't the dragon it's a boss at the end of a easily missable dungeon at the very end of the demo (You have to go out of your way to be able to access the dungeon).

yeaaah I got to him and got absolutely wrecked lmao.

Ada · 2024-09-27T17:30:20-0400

Exploiting the mage passive in the optional dungeon to slowly max out every archetype. I have been grinding goblins for hours now.

Kami · 2024-09-27T17:32:51-0400

So what's the best way to spend those 3 days? Any new Archetypes you can unlock in the city? I did the side quest where you buy medicine and unlocked the optional dungeon.

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