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Massachusetts pre-school bans kids from using the term, "Best Friend"
- Thread starter Cybersai
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You either apply the same standard to all words or you accept context is relevant. And I say nigga all the time.
Now we're in "no but you" territory...
Millennials are already the participation prize generation.
User Banned (3 Days): Downplaying gendered slurs.
No worse than I feel about anything else when I read about racism. Bitch has NEVER been the slur some of ya'll are trying to make it now. FOH. Is the word 'fuck' ok? Or am I now advocating sexual violence....?
Some of ya'll....
Either namby-pamby is ok to use or it's not. We both know the answer. Which makes you the hypocrite in this situation.
Happens anytime I don't adopt the prevailing white liberal/progressive ideology. I don't take it personal.
Im pointing out that a man saying "the word bitch doesn't offend me" is akin to a straight guy saying "the word fag doesn't offend me" or the countless white people who think they should be allowed to say the N-word, of course y'all feel like that, that word is not about you!
Bitch might not have the same connotations as the big league slurs, and nothing can compare to a slur so strong we call it "the N-word", but it's still a mysoginstic insult, just saying that if women are asking for people to at least decrease the usage of the word in media, your answer shouldn't be "It's your fault for being offended".
Outrageous
Two can be as bad as one
It's the loneliest number since the number one
No best friends is the best experience
yes it's the best experience you'll ever know
No fucking idea. Been saying it on the old forum no problem. Saying it here, no problem. Same context. Never in the context of someone's gender. But suddenly it's "Burn the heretic". Mofos gentrifying vocabulary....
So now I can't use "aint that a bitch" or when I stub my toe "sonofabitch!" because I have a penis? C'mon. No one I know thinks like that. I live in NY. They're all democrats. Mostly liberal. No one is gonna gasp if someone uses that word if it's not in the context of a man trying to scream it at a woman. Or as an insult to describe a woman. Trying to shoehorn the outrage for that into outrage if the word is used AT ALL is some college humor sketch type silliness. No where else on earth, in physical reality does that rule apply. Time to come out the bubble dude.
Pretty obvious the context wasn't on some sexist shit.
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I think it's mostly the shock of seeing members people assumed were really progressive displaying cognitive dissonance with usage of the word. It's like they can see the point with words they agree are offensive, but they either can't connect the dots or flat out refuse to acknowledge the other members are probably correct about the word bitch. So people that think they are feigning ignorance keep making futile attempts to show them the path to logical consistency. It's been fascinating to watch the last couple days.
There's a word I would use to describe people that complain about something in an annoying way, but maybe I shouldn't use it...
OK fine, you guys are being whiny!
Completely disagree based on reading the words from some of the people on this forum.
That definition is wrong, or at least non-standard. If you can find another dictionary that uses 'effeminate' as a synonym, I'll change my mind - but you won't. The root of the word doesn't have a thing to do with that, certainly.Not pretending a damn thing. Just pointing out I don't have that type of worldview with my vocabulary. The fuck, lol. I'm not at work. I don't have to speak job interview for your delicate ass sensibilities. One of the defining characteristic of any curse word is it can be traced back to horrible shit. So when you say rooted? Words have roots. No shit. Was that the context I used it in with specific intent to disrespect women? Was I trying to do some low key insult to women? FOH.
This 'best-friends' rule is some namby-pamby bullshit and way past what should be considered reasonable. Now, when I use the word 'namby-pamby' am I contributing to homophobia or gender stereotypes? After all the definition:
lacking energy, strength, or courage; feeble or effeminate in behavior or expression.
"these weren't namby-pamby fights, but brutal affairs where heads hit the sidewalk"
synonyms: weak, feeble, spineless, effeminate, effete; More
Protip: The answer is no. Context matters.
Honestly, best friends are a bizarre social construct anyway. I have several best friends in different circumstances. Like a work best friend, an undergrad major best friend, a party best friend, a nerdy best friend, etc.
I don't mind teaching kids that friendship is flexible.
I don't mind teaching kids that friendship is flexible.
Best friends leave yo
And then
It's just no good anymore since they went away
Now they'll spend their time just making rhymes of yesterday
As they say it's better to never have best friended at all than best friended and lost. That's just science.
Wtf is this garbage? This isn't how life works, people have best friends big fucking deal. This is way too controlling.
Tho in the real world there is always people you'll connect with more than others, it's not that you are forced to fill the designated "spot" for your best friend, having best friends it's something that just organically happens as you develop socially.
I also think that teaching the idea of "best friends" might make kids feel like they're cemented to their friendships, you know? It's totally OK to change friends as you age.
I think that "best friends = concrete" thinking is why adults have difficulty making friends. You see threads about it all the time on ResetEra.
I think that "best friends = concrete" thinking is why adults have difficulty making friends. You see threads about it all the time on ResetEra.
They should probably do away with the word "teacher" also. Everyone has something unique and special to teach others.
even if his definition isn't wrong, why use "oh yeah well this is problematic too" as a gotcha? what a clean way to dunk on yourself by demonstrating that plenty of day-to-day things that we do could use reflection.
hey i had to teach my whole class in second grade how to read a clock
where's my salary at
I am going to have to report you now. Sorry. You're in the way of a Sonicfree America.
Best isn't objective anyway, you might think John is your best friend but that's a pretty bias POV no? What if I think Joan is your best friend, shouldn't I have a say, shouldn't we all, shouldn't science? It's pretty Objectivist, anti-science stance to believe in the individual that deeply. Best is a social construct, immeasurable and ultimately meaningless, we need to tear it down, maybe you can change my mind about having friends at all though, I'm willing to listen, but you'll have to explain how we can keep Friends out of the reach of impressionable minds... and Sonic.
I'm wholly confused by this. I don't follow the reasoning at all, not the link between best and permanence since opinions are malleable and relationships change, nor the statement that having a best friend makes it harder to make other friends outside of maybe not spending time seeking new friends because you have existing ones. But that last part isn't a bad thing.
The anti-PC won't jump to attack this because the more vocal ones don't have close friends and would benefit from this sort of thing.
Alright, did the left go so far left that they're now right wing snowflakes?
First of all, actually imagine the situation as reality... It's not like kids are being isolated and slapped around for saying 'best friend'. Get real.
Also, it's one preschool in the nation.
No one is taking away your freedom here, and I'm 99% certain these children aren't being punished in any way. Very likely this is being misconstrued by an overreactive parent.
How nefarious is it really for a caretaker to say to a group of kids 'we encourage not to say 'best friend' but for everyone to make friends and treat each other equally.'? It's a positive message, and exactly the type of thing one would expect to hear where groups of children are being taught simple social skills for a couple hours each day.
First of all, actually imagine the situation as reality... It's not like kids are being isolated and slapped around for saying 'best friend'. Get real.
Also, it's one preschool in the nation.
No one is taking away your freedom here, and I'm 99% certain these children aren't being punished in any way. Very likely this is being misconstrued by an overreactive parent.
How nefarious is it really for a caretaker to say to a group of kids 'we encourage not to say 'best friend' but for everyone to make friends and treat each other equally.'? It's a positive message, and exactly the type of thing one would expect to hear where groups of children are being taught simple social skills for a couple hours each day.
You nailed it bud, when folks say don't invite Nazis to speak at Universities they are doing so because they want to end best friends forever
Actually in Canada we've already done it, saying Best Friend here is rightfully seen as hate speech against the friendless and is punishable by 6 months in isolation, to teach you what it is like to have no friends. We started with nazis because no one will speak up for the Nazis and now we've achieved the end goal.
it's true! we didn't tolerate hate speech against muslims, and now (insert generic alt-right apocalypse scenario)!!!!
oh gooooosssshhhh!!!
Slash Ess, to the max!
for real, I think banning "best friend," is ridiculous, but Come On with that crap,
..."this is the end goal," oh god.
To Hades
To which the avenue leading to it is cemented with positive objectives.
Over zealous protection of young kids and teenagers will end up catastrophically for them when they enter the real word.
It's like banning a kid from going outside the house to protect him from germs and bacteria. And then when he does, his underdeveloped immune system is useless and the tiniest infection can kill him.
It's like banning a kid from going outside the house to protect him from germs and bacteria. And then when he does, his underdeveloped immune system is useless and the tiniest infection can kill him.
The "end goal" is putting unqualified idiots in control of what we can and cannot say with the justification being that they're protecting people. Those people usually do not wish or need to be protected. The end goal is pointless shit much like this that makes no real sense and turns people, usually children, into emotionless robots incapable of utilizing free thought and common sense.