Best theme song?

  • Goldeneye, by Tina Turner

    Votes: 169 55.8%
  • Tomorrow Never Dies, by Sheryl Crow

    Votes: 26 8.6%
  • The World is Not Enough, by Garbage

    Votes: 73 24.1%
  • Die Another Day, by Madonna

    Votes: 23 7.6%
  • secret answer: Everything or Nothing, by Mýa

    Votes: 12 4.0%

  • Total voters
    303

Keiriks

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Being a child of the 90s, I always saw Pierce Brosnan as The James Bond. Obviously, this is partly because he played the role while I was growing up but he also just has that vibe to him. When I think of James Bond I think of Pierce Brosnan.

That being said, I somehow hadn't actually seen any of his outings until very recently, except somehow for Die Another Day. I've seen at least one movie from every actor's era and that was... that one. But over the past few weeks, as I've been on vacation, I've sought to rectify this grave error. I can now say I've seen everything Pierce Brosnan era Bond has to offer, and on average I'd say it comes out... pretty decent. I think he does a fantastic job across the board in all his appearances so I'm gonna focus on the movies themselves. While I baseline enjoyed them all, each one does kinda slot into its own category.

Goldeneye, the throwback one
Goldeneye feels the most like a classic Bond film out of the four, from the story to the production to the characters. It's very much a 70s-type action thriller viewed through the glossy lens of the mid 90s. In that way it's like the transition from your dad's Bond to the new millennium's Bond - a 90s brand of sexy injected into a more traditional mold. Also, Sean Bean? Love. I liked it a lot, but would still place it third best. Which would also make it second to last, but like I said I do enjoy all four of these.

Tomorrow Never Dies, the worst one
But I like Tomorrow Never Dies the least, easily. Aside from the tank chase setpiece and Michelle Yeoh being as iconic as she always is, it's fairly forgettable fare. So forgettable I can't really think of anything more to say about it except that it had a tank and Michelle Yeoh. The bad guy ran a newspaper or something.
Edit: The tank was in Goldeneye, not TND. I really didn't retain any of this movie huh

The World is Not Enough, the best one
Killer opening sequence aside, I think TWINE stands out in all the right ways. It easily has the best villain of the bunch in Elektra King, played to absolute perfection by Sophie Marceau. And on Bond girls, Denise Richards gets way too much flack for her work here. She has good chemistry with Brosnan and her character being a doctor of nuclear whatever at 28 is hardly the most unrealistic thing we've seen in the series. Anyway, I loved the twisty plot, the deeper than usual character work, and the fabulous setpieces. The final line of dialogue is horrible, but it's horrible in such a James Bond way that I can't hate it.

Die Another Day, the disasterpiece one
I've always loved this stupid stupid stupid movie and that hasn't changed. The way we go from Bond being tortured in captivity for 14 months to him outrunning a space laser in his invisible car is just peak trash kino and I wouldn't change a thing. Well, maybe the race stuff. We didn't need that. This is also one of few movies to be shot in Iceland without it doubling for another location, which is fun. It's why this was the only one I had seen before, its release was an EVENT here. I'm fully aware that this is the actual worst one but idc I'll always love it

so yeah I like these goofy movies they're very fun. My ranking goes as such

1. The World is Not Enough
2. Die Another Day
3. Goldeneye
4. Tomorrow Never Dies

I think popular opinion is Goldeneye as the best and Die Another Day as the worst, with TWINE and TND in the middle. Which I get, even if it's not an order I can identify with.

included is a poll for the best theme song. TWINE wins out for me again, Garbage delivered a perfect Bond theme with just the right hit of 90s alt-rock. Tina Turner's Goldeneye is an easy second, with Madonna's Die Another Day in third. I've always been partial to its quirky electoclash sound, though I do also understand the hate it gets since it's such a break from tradition. Tomorrow Never Dies by Sheryl Crow is a fine enough song but much like the film it's from it's not especially memorable.

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Juraash

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TWINE is the one I actually liked enough to actively listen to at the time it came out, so that one wins for me.

It's been ages, but I feel film wise TWINE and Goldeneye are the best of Pierce's tenure as well.
 

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Other secret answer: "Surrender" by KD Lang.

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Tomorrow Never Dies was the first Bond movie I saw, so I've always had a soft spot for it.
 

The Quentulated Mox

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it's been so long since i've seen any of these (and i'm not sure that i've ever seen Tomorrow Never Dies). every time i get that dipshit impulse to "watch all the bond movies in release order!" i burn out long before this, usually in the Moore Doldrums

seem to recall liking Goldeneye and TWINE, tho


goddammit, only Goldeneye is free on streaming, gotta pay for the other three. lame
 

GoodGrief

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Brosnan is Best Bond. Saying this as someone who grew up with Craig, who is Worst Bond.

1. GoldenEye (contender for best Bond movie period)
2. Tomorrow Never Dies
3. Die Another Day
4. The World Is Not Enough (the only Brosnan Bond that I would call bad. It's just so boring)
 

Rainy

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Goldeneye is my favorite. I think one of my favorite lines in the Bond franchise is the "for me," at the end.

TWINE though has the best theme.
 

Aiqops

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My fav Bond. Love his entire run, no matter how stupid and over the top some of them got.
 

Fancy Clown

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Goldeneye is the only one I like, but it's great. TWINE is half interesting but half incompetent, DAD is fully incompetent, and TND is an absolute bore. I also just don't love Brosnan in the role, he's alright but he has a very "jack of all trades, master of none" approach to the various qualities of the character. He's very magazine Bond.

Still better than Moore!

Slander and lies!
 

Dommo

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What I never see get talked enough about is that for 30 years, Bond films opening credits basically didn't evolve. They were extremely naff, ugly and dated from Thunderball right up to Licence to Kill.


View: https://youtu.be/Ju_by-sC79c?si=w1rrO-D3kMAIqCKV

Then the moment Binder is replaced by Kleinman with Goldeneye, the opening credits take a substantial step up. I can't imagine being a longtime Bond fan in the cinema watching this for the first time. It would be downright revelatory. New era indeed.


View: https://youtu.be/qGPBFvDz_HM?si=z0AkbO3F-h_9KVVz
 

Fancy Clown

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Yeah Kleinman absolutely clears Binder. I also prefer Robert Brownjohn's credits for From Russia With Love and Goldfinger to the vast majority of Binder's stuff.
 
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I didn't grow up with Brosnan so my opinion on his era is pretty negative overall. I like GoldenEye but can't say I enjoy any of his other films. Die Another Day is every bit as bad as it's reputation states. To anyone who hasn't seen it, just listen to what people say and skip it.
 

Menome

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I've always had a soft spot for Tomorrow Never Dies, and much of that may be down to Sheryl Crow's theme song. I absolutely love it to bits, and it may be my favourite Bond song.

I saw Die Another Day in the cinema as a teenager, and I haven't watched a new Bond film since. It even took years for me to watch a classic one again. So fucking bad, that it killed my childhood love for the franchise which I used to watch endlessly on repeat.
 
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Yep I grew up with Brosnan so that special fondness will always be there. DAD was an event here too and as a kid I very much enjoyed it, even though nowadays I can see how trashy it is lmao.

My ranking (I do enjoy all 4 in their own right):
The World is Not Enough (nostalgia factor overpowers objective quality here)
Goldeneye
Die Another Day
Tomorrow Never Dies (slightly boring)

My theme song ranking is ironically exactly the same, except I would actually slot Everything or Nothing behind Goldeneye. Goddamn that game is amazing and the jazz rendition of the theme is pure chill:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWSo-efi25k
 

PJTierney

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Tomorrow Never Dies is my favourite, but given how I now work in communications that kind of makes sense.
 
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Goldeneye is the most iconic song, but my favourite of the songs is The World is Not Enough.

As far as the films go, the most common view seems to be that it's a linear decline, with Goldeneye the best, then TND, then TWINE, then DAD, but I personally consider TWINE a bit better than TND.

Goldeneye followed by Nightfire are the best Brosnan starring games. Everything or Nothing is really cool and interesting (a prototype for the kind of action/adventure variety show with cover mechanics that you'd see from Uncharted style games) but the mechanics are pretty raw and unrefined, and the 2nd half of the game has pretty bad balance and high difficulty resulting in a lot of frustration. Nightfire is less ambitious but it goes down a lot easier.
 

shaneo632

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Brosnan is a great Bond but he had a super mixed batch of films.

Goldeneye is easily the best.
#2 for me is Tomorrow Never Dies. Has its fair share of flaws but the action is great, Michelle Yeoh kicks ass and the villain is fun.
#3 TWINE. I find this the most forgettable of the bunch, but Sophie Marceau is a really great femme fatale.
#4 Die Another Day. Bond at peak parody form. It's entertainingly stupid and the first 20 minutes are legitimately good, but so much cringe.
 

Nocturnowl

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Goldeneye > The World is not enough > Tomorrow Never Dies > Die Another Day

Sometimes I wonder if the memories of the GE game does a lot of heavy lifting for the film, but nah, I think it's just a pretty fun ride throughout, with or without classic game benefits. Brosnan and Bean work well off each other, bringing in the Dench as M is great (and I love her absolute meta evisceration of Bond in the then modern day, misogynistic dinosaur, bam, shots fired!). The score is just so...bizarrely heavy on these booming percussive elements, the dead captain and his dying expression, "don't touch that!...it's my lunch", the ridiculous deaths of Trevelyan and Boris, the supporting cast in general , ahhh love it.

DAD is arse, but it definitely has some of that so bad it's enjoyable to shit on factor, the villain's saturday morning cartoon "LOOK PARACHUTES FOR THE BOTH OF US" *chucks one out the plane* "NOT ANYMORE" is just so very bad in the best way because he's just so chuffed about his villainous play, and the previous fight between the ladies with READ THIS...BITCH finale like it was the edgiest dunk they could slide into a Bond film lol
 

UnluckyKate

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Goldeneye is a classic. For England, James.
I like Tomorrow Never Dies because it still feel relevant today. I understand why people didnt like Eliot Carver back then : booo a vilain who wants to sell papers but its not about the paper, its about the power of the information and how it can create wars. Never been more relevant than today. Also, Im biaised because of ships and Michelle Yeoh.
World is not Enough is... messy. It has its moment, Sophie Marceau is godlike and Denise Richard could have been used more.
Die Another Day is just plain bad. Soooo bad.
 

Eila

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The only one that sucked was Die Another Day. Ugly as fuck film, with terrible CGI that did not hold up.

I did not find Goldeneye to be a masterpiece like some people seem to rate it. The other two films are fun. I like his take on Bond.
 

Ubik

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Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies are great. The other two are not worth rewatches for me.

The scene with the Dr. torturer guy in Tomorrow Never Dies is amazing. Love that scene and character.

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Volimar

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I think Goldeneye is my favorite Bond film, but I like all of Brosnan's outings.
 

teruterubozu

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I'm an old fart so I grew up with Brosnan as Remington Steele. Bond was a natural fit of course, but I feel like they made Brosnan Bond too serious. I know they were trying to get away from the Roger Moore campiness, but Brosnan has a knack for comedy and they didn't utilize it much. In many ways Remington Steele had that brash, bravado and cockiness that I expected from a Brosnan Bond, but it was missing.

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The_R3medy

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To me, Brosnan is the classic Bond. He's ridiculously handsome and extraordinarily smooth/suave. He was only letting down by scripts in his later films.

I love Craig as Bond, and he really fit the post 9/11 world, but Brosnan feels like the proper Bond.
 

Duncan

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He is to me, the VIDEO GAME Bond. For obvious reasons.

I wanted IOI to go for it and make Brosnan Bond for their game, how insane would that be?
 

janusff

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I'm of the opinion that Goldeneye is an all timer. Prob top 3 bond movie ever. On certain days, you could argue it's the best one to me and I'd agree
 
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Tomorrow Never Dies, the worst one
But I like Tomorrow Never Dies the least, easily. Aside from the tank chase setpiece and Michelle Yeoh being as iconic as she always is, it's fairly forgettable fare. So forgettable I can't really think of anything more to say about it except that it had a tank and Michelle Yeoh. The bad guy ran a newspaper or something.

I.. think you might be confused? The tank scene is from Goldeneye. There's no tank in Tonorrow Never Dies, not even in the arms bazaar scene at the start.

I guess mixing the two really does mean they're both forgettable for you, however!
 
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I.. think you might be confused? The tank scene is from Goldeneye. There's no tank in Tonorrow Never Dies, not even in the arms bazaar scene at the start.

I guess mixing the two really does mean they're both forgettable for you, however!
oh my god I really don't remember anything about Tomorrow Never Dies. I did watch them only one day apart but idk why I thought the tank scene was in TND. I apologise to Goldeneye for trying to usurp its credit. 😔🙇
 

Altazor

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Am I the only one in this thread that found Teri Hatcher really attractive in TND? Despite her really brief screen time.

In any case, the movie's an obvious stepdown from GoldenEye, and even that would've been interesting with Timothy Dalton as Bond (as was the original plan). Brosnan definitely had "the look" despite every one of his movies after GE not living up to the potential (IMHO)
 

Volken

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Grew up with Brosnan Bond but Craig is best bond imo.

His Casino Royal is hands down the best bond film.
 

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Brosnan is a fantastic Bond who got saddled with some real stinky scripts.

I feel comfortable saying that if his movies were better, he'd surpass Craig as Best Bond.
 

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Always loved GoldenEye. I used to know the dialogue verbatim as I'd watch my VHS copy while I was doing the ironing.

I have a huge soft spot for Tomorrow Never Dies. Elliot Carver is an underrated villain, played wonderfully by Jonathan Pryce. The soundtrack also had the fantastic k.d. lang song that missed out on being the main theme:


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The worst Bond one liner

One of my favourite Bond moments was seeing TWINE in the cinema and hearing the audience collectively groan at that line!
 

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Tomorrow Never Dies was the first Bond movie I saw, so I've always had a soft spot for it.

This is my favorite of the themes that never were. So much better than the one they chose for Tomorrow Never Dies imo
 

Nappuccino

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One of my favourite Bond moments was seeing TWINE in the cinema and hearing the audience collectively groan at that line!
I remember being in the car with a friend whose parents had seen it to screen it for him (we were 11 or so?), and I remember his mom saying no, and spitting out that line with how disgusted it made her.
 

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I voted Goldeneye but only because it's the only good movie

On a related note, Goldeneye kicks ass and it's distressing to think that someone might think any of the other ones are good

It reminds me of when people lump Commando in with Predator