Would have gotten this so fast on PC. I thought it was so awesome on PS4, but with keyboard and mouse and VR support on PC I would have used it all the time.
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Lance McDonald: Media Molecule had a PC version of Dreams ready to ship that was canceled. PS5 version was in the works.
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I think the multiplayer implementation not working out/not releasing as well as them not figuring out a way to monetise the game ruined the chances of it expanding to other platforms as well as ending up with them ceasing live support for Dreams.
Sad to see what happened to it, and if there is a studio at risk of closure it probably is Mm. Dreams had a lot of missed potential but I still enjoy seeing the community creations that Modest_Modsoul posts - there are a lot of talented creators.
Not really, but that's not to say its bad at all. I look forward to playing it eventually.
I made a thread when Dreams came out talking about potential monetization for the game, it wasn't well received here.
But even if the game reaching more players wouldn't make more money, the game relies entirely on its user created content. More users= more content and a healthier community and game. Let's be honest, no one every looked at a game like Dreams as a big money maker.
Considering the mountains and oceans of DLC they themselves made for LBP1 & 2, including gameplay features like the paintball gun in the first game, I don't think that MM is particularly adverse to supporting their games in that way. Honestly, it just makes their vision for Dreams even more baffling, when they've already made two games that were well received critically and commercially and sold lots and lots of DLC.
Seriously this would've been amazing on PSVR2 + PS5. Just think of the crazy stuff people would've been able to create with the extra performance overhead available :/
The fact it was also gonna be on PC with such a huge modding community makes this confirmation sting all the more. Sony can touch grass on this decision.
Add in online multi-player and the game could last in perpetuity, like all other social/creative/online games.
I think about it a lot, especially since I still play a ton of Rec Room on PSVR1, which is the only place I can get my creative/social fix in VR at the moment.
This. A ton of the mass market appeal of the other UGC games Dreams gets compared to is that you can hang out with your friends in them. Not having that would have kneecapped Dreams no matter what platform you put it on.
Are you fucking kidding me here?! Sony what are you doing?! Dreams would of soared into new heights on pc. God damn.
At least on lbp it made sense and was mind-blowingly way ahead of is time, no way to do the same on dreams without locking out from levels, features etc.
a PS5 version would have been nice. I personally think it wouldn't have gotten much traction if at all on PC though. Its not nearly as novel of a concept on that platform.
I wonder what the costs were like to maintain just the PS4 game itself, and how much that would increase by adding PS5 and PC. If the studio was already hurting bad enough to "require" layoffs then I'm not sure they would have been able to manage supporting 3 versions out there and the increase in users.
And we all know Sony doesn't like having to support stuff...
And we all know Sony doesn't like having to support stuff...
What are you on about? The screenshots have the same filename on his artstation, and win64 obv shows that it originated from a PC build
Here's the thing, though: I don't even think it's an issue of releasing a Regal Eagle model/animation pack or the Doots on Doots in Doots sound effects pack directly, so much as not having an avenue where they take a cut from the folks want to sell their own Regal Eagle or Doots on Doots in Doots, like you have set up for some of the games that have already been mentioned in the thread, for those folks that aren't quite getting such things for their projects. Like, this is such an obvious thing that I don't know how Sony let Media Molecule go forth with this and not have that be the end goal for how to sustain the game once MM would move onto something else.
And they don't even need to enforce folks to sell their pieces and parts, either, to help maintain that part of their vision for the game! They should have given folks the option to do so, outline their revenue share for everyone to read and sign off on, and let it play out. This is not some crazy ask!
Only 1 screenshot has that filename and the others don't. The other one that he talks about having the loading icon is in fact a screenshot from the game on PS4 that he tries to attribute being on PC.
Wouldn't be the 1st time a platform holder would have a finished product that they decide to shelve for unknown (to us) reasons.
Hopefully this get a pc release because it never made sense to me to just have a ps4 version when pc could have cemented the game as a forever game.
Hopefully this get a pc release because it never made sense to me to just have a ps4 version when pc could have cemented the game as a forever game.
Then you'd have to moderate the content and still no way to milk whales or kids with predatory transactions
This is what I'm thinking. Releasing this is only half the battle. The other half is supporting it.
Well, at least you're understanding why this was such a flimsy idea in the long term. This was never going to sustain itself on warm, fuzzy feelings.
Yeah but the pc version could have been left to customer to handle allowing them to sunset the project with a rather cheapo option.
wish Dreams could have been the PS4/5 tie in game that came with systems. it would have been interesting to see what that kinda reach would have done for the community
Bloodborne PC/PS5 was at one point in the works.
Haven't heard anything in literal years so I wouldn't hold my breath, but Lance was correct there.
I would guess that with a game like Dreams, you need people to keep up on it for moderation, copyright, and security issues at minimum and with the layoffs/refocus on whatever is next, they didn't see a release as worth the manpower it would take to maintain.
Complete speculation on my part, though.
Go watch the interview on Minnmax with Abbie Heppe. It wasn't a lack of vision from MM simply a denial by Sony of the resources needed to achieve it.
Still blows my mind this never got the support it deserved and paints a grim picture of what is going to / is already happening with Sony's live service push.
Yeah.
Those ports should have been done early. 2021 release on PS5 and PC around the same time or later.
I'd hope that MM is well underway with a new project. Because not getting those ports out seems wild to me.
I believe I said this at the time, though honestly I can't remember.
Again, no idea what became of it, I'm not optimistic they've been working on it in a corner somewhere.
Honestly, yeah. That's kind of fucked up. Imagine how much support the game would have gotten if it was put on PC. Fucking hell. Whoever cancelled it needs to cancel themselves.
But who? Doesn't sound like its Bluepoint. Definitely not From Software themselves.
Do you know who was working on it at the time?
Crazy it didn't come to fruition, but its good news imo to know there WAS an intention to get it on PC at one point.
Dreams should have been on PC but come on guys, realistically that wouldn't have done much for it. There are already a million ways to make games on PC and Dreams can't be monetized by creators.
I think if Dreams had launched with a full campaign like LBP and potentially had even been a LBP spinoff it would have done a lot better.
I think if Dreams had launched with a full campaign like LBP and potentially had even been a LBP spinoff it would have done a lot better.
