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Japanese PM Shinzo Abe was served dessert in a shoe during his visit in Israel
- Thread starter Luxorek
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Hmm yeah I don't think taking shoes off is all that common in a business office setting as opposed to academic.
It's like these idiotic heads of state forgot how to fear their adversaries. All it takes is one person to lob a bomb back when they are offended based on their culture. Then maybe this crappy non-diplomatic behavior will stop?
At school they have shoe lockers, hence the trope of leaving love letters in shoe lockers, y'know?
That's interesting, it was like that in every office I went to, even the secretary's office
Logic leap. They all ate out of the shoe. There's nothing to indicate it was retaliatory.
Eh, it certainly does seem retaliatory. This is in no way a "logic leap" and seems like a way to say "fuck you" in a diplomatic way.
Doesn't matter, it's a replica of a shoe. That sends the desired message.
Yes, it is, it's a conclusion based on insufficient evidence. The mere fact that the Japanese prime minister said he would support iran nuclear deal does not mean he did this on purpose.
No, it isn't. We'll never know for sure, that's the insidious part. But it does seem quite likely with Bibis ridiculous presentation just a few days ago. And we're well past the point of attributing goodwill to Bibi.
what an 'art'... israel has been getting very cocky to say the least that they can insult japanese pm.
It's not insidious because we don't know. It's nothing because we don't know.
You should never make probable statements based on perception due to your apparent bias against Bibi.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1426009.Perception_and_Misperception_in_International_Politics
User warned: Personal attack.
Perception matters in diplomacy. And yes, making probable statements is reasonable because we'll never know for sure.
Your entire contribution to this thread is essentially "I have nothing to say"
You don't understand logical arguments if you think that making a probable statement based on your perception of Bibi makes sense.
See you in a week!
You wear shoes at a Japanese office.
I've seen little children's schools have a cabinet for storing shoes and homes but never offices.
I've seen little children's schools have a cabinet for storing shoes and homes but never offices.
Unless it's semi-common or not unusual for fancy Israel dinners to have this kind of dessert-in-shoe presentation, I'd say that was likely a deliberate dig that they went out of their way for. It's just too much of a coincidence.
She was attacked by a large dog before and has been scared since.
This isn't about logic at all? And do you expect Bibi to come out and say this was meant as a disrespectful act? I'm really not quite sure what you're getting at here. How Bibi has carried himself in the past certainly matters to the evaluation of this current situation.
You seem like someone that isn't well-versed in politics at all trying to make a dig based on technicalities. It's not working.
It was mostly in jest. I was mauled by a Chow at the age of 5 and to this day they make me nervous. Like I said it was definitely a shitty thing to do to her.
r/wewantplates for real... It's mind-boggling how some chefs think they are super creative for not using plates
Arguing that Bib did this on purpose....isn't about logic?
Let me get remedial here. Using Bibi's presentation as a justification for a probable statement doesn't work
1. There's nothing to indicate in that presentation that he would retaliate against anyone that didn't support him.
2. In order to justify a probable statement, you would need to present a history of Bibi retaliating against other nations for not towing the line. Like Putin does.
Hence, using the presentation as a basis for a probable statement is a leap in logic. Using Abe's statement is also a leap in logic.
You can BELIEVE it makes sense, but that doesn't make it LOGICAL.
Are you just writing words to write words? Are you paid by the sentence? You're the one talking about logic where it doesn't belong.
And yes, it makes sense that is was intended as an offense and it certainly was taken that way.
Except it's a dinner by a well-known chef.
You guys keep attributing to malice, what stupidity can also speak for.
Are you really arguing that someone put the Japanese Prime Minister's dinner in a shoe on ACCIDENT?
Huh, definitely not a thing for game companies. In my place you around with your shoes on, last company as well, and same for all the other companies I've visited.
In what kind of company do you work? If it's a more traditional large company, that might still be a thing?
We'll never know for sure. But it does seem likely this was an intentional slight. Bibi has been out to kill the Iran deal for a long time, it's counter to his interests.
I am seriously scared at the idea that you really think logic doesn't apply here.
I would quote Hanlon's Razor, but apparently logic doesn't apply here? LMAO
No, logic does not apply here. Also, you're not as smart as you think you are.
Again
You don't have ANY reasonable statements to make that suggest this was intentional.
Putin bringing in a dog to merkel was intentional because he was told that she was afraid of large dogs and has been known to do such things.
You're just being willfully obtuse. Acting like there's no way this was intentional isn't arguing in good faith.
I can easily say that I am smarter than a person who believes logic has no application here.
Bibi is a trashy person. I am pretty sure he have seen the shoe before it was served so for this to happen is disgusting. He could have stopped it from being served if he wanted.
Also why the hell would anyone think of designing this plate? I would imagine that it would be hard to eat from it. (If you are not disgusted from it that is.
Also why the hell would anyone think of designing this plate? I would imagine that it would be hard to eat from it. (If you are not disgusted from it that is.
If you think you can logic your way to knowing whether this was an intentional slight or not, you're certainly on the wrong path.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. There is nothing to suggest this was intentional because of Abe's support for an Iran deal. You have no presented a single thing here that would suggest it is so.
Maybe you should contact Shinzo Abe and link him your shitty book so he can be educated on the facts of the matter and how he shouldn't take offense to being served dessert in a shoe?