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Japan to stage Tokyo Olympics without overseas spectators

The Japanese government has decided to exclude overseas spectators from attending this summer's Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics, as part of efforts to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, according to officials with the knowledge of the matter
The Japanese government has decided to exclude overseas spectators from attending this summer's Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics, as part of efforts to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, officials with knowledge of the matter said Tuesday.

The government and the Japanese organizing committee of the Summer Games are expected to hold a remote meeting with the International Olympic Committee and two other bodies later this month to make a formal decision on the issue of overseas visitors.

The government has concluded that welcoming fans from abroad is not possible given concerns among the Japanese public over the coronavirus and the fact that more contagious variants have been detected in many countries, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The opening ceremony of the torch relay will be held without spectators as well to prevent the spread of the virus, officials with knowledge of the planning also said Tuesday.

The organizing committee has decided it is essential to hold the ceremony in the northeastern prefecture of Fukushima behind closed doors, only permitting participants and invitees to take part in the event, to avoid large crowds forming amid the pandemic, the officials said.
In recent weeks, a number of celebrity torchbearers, who were expected to draw large crowds along the route, have opted out of the event, which was supposed to have been held last year before the Olympics and Paralympics were due to the global health crisis.

While the one-year postponement of the games has caused the cost to balloon to at least 1.64 trillion yen ($15 billion), the organizing committee expects to make 90 billion yen from ticket sales.
 

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While the one-year postponement of the games has caused the cost to balloon to at least 1.64 trillion yen ($15 billion), the organizing committee expects to make 90 billion yen from ticket sales.
With no foreigners driving up the price idk about ticket sales, especially for the less popular events.
 

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What a tremendous waste of money for the country. Didn't realise they were so flush.

Glad they're doing it though as I get more sport to watch this summer.
 

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I guess it's looking more and more probable to pull this event off, assuming olympians are getting vaccinated.
 

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Wait, they're going to still run it? I thought canceling was the plan according to Dick Pound (lol)

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Wait, they're going to still run it? I thought canceling was the plan according to Dick Pound (lol)
I think the IOC and the organizers are committed to going ahead with the games, if at all possible and so they're not going to cancel unless there's a consensus among the government, health authorities and the IOC that it would be too dangerous. But at the moment, the plans are in place. All the indications are that we should go ahead. There's no reason why the games can't go on.
Pound is no longer a part of the IOC's decision-making executive board
 

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Just madness that they're going through with it without tourism dollars. Isn't that literally the only reason countries enroll and compete to host in the first place?
 

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that tv and ad money is too hard to ignore. they'll go through with it if only for that. see, also the all star game. probably didn't need to be held but there's too much money involved not to do it

same with the euros this summer

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no tourists will hurt the local economy there that will miss out, but that's not the IOC's concern other then just holding it at all. international sporting events are big business and there's too many hands in the pot for it not to happen at this point.
 

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What a disaster this has ended up for them. All the costs of hosting the Olympics minus the local benefits.
 

tokkun

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Just madness that they're going through with it without tourism dollars. Isn't that literally the only reason countries enroll and compete to host in the first place?

Most of the costs associated with running the games are related to infrastructure and stadium upgrades, which have already been payed. At this point that's a sunk cost, so from a financial perspective you may as well recoup as much as you can through TV rights, merchandise, and domestic tickets (which will probably be limited too).
 

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Just madness that they're going through with it without tourism dollars. Isn't that literally the only reason countries enroll and compete to host in the first place?
the alternative is throwing away years and years of hard work for thousands of people. at least this way you get the tv money, some ticket sales and you can still advertise your country to the world.
 

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that tv and ad money is too hard to ignore. they'll go through with it if only for that. see, also the all star game. probably didn't need to be held but there's too much money involved not to do it

same with the euros this summer

www.insidethegames.biz

Exclusive: IOC set to generate record $4.5 billion from Pyeongchang 2018 and Tokyo 2020 TV rights

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has already generated as much from the sale of broadcasting rights for Games in the next Olympic quadrennium...

ca.sports.yahoo.com

$1 billion in TV money is what ensures the Tokyo Olympics will happen

This is a column by Morgan Campbell, who writes opinion for CBC Sports. For more information about CBC's Opinion section, please see the FAQ. In December, a football game between the University of Michigan and its biggest rival, Ohio State, was cancelled after a coronavirus outbreak on...

variety.com

NBCUniversal Expects More Than $1.2 Billion in Ads for Tokyo Olympics

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no tourists will hurt the local economy there that will miss out, but that's not the IOC's concern other then just holding it at all.
So the Japanese have a $15 billion tab.

And the IOC is going to make $1 billion in TV ads.
 

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It would be super nice if the Olympics were actually about the sport and athletes rather than the tourism and self-promotion for once. That's probably just a naive dream though.
 

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Just madness that they're going through with it without tourism dollars. Isn't that literally the only reason countries enroll and compete to host in the first place?
Sunk costs. They can't postpone it again, and there's no guarantee they'll have another chance to host it if they cancel. If they don't do it this year, it's a whole lot of wasted money.
 

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So the Japanese have a $15 billion tab.

And the IOC is going to make $1 billion in TV ads.
Yep. The economics of hosting an Olympics almost never works out well for the host. They're vanity projects that can be a showcase if you have strong and realistic governance behind it that can absorb the costs. You're almost always gonna end up in the red. But look at Rio for a recent example where it's like, they were better off without it.

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Add to that the growing lack of cities/countries willing to make that downpayment (because they know it's a risky economic bet) and corruption in the IOC and FIFA/UEFA and we'll probably just see more places like Qatar get to host.



 

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Just madness that they're going through with it without tourism dollars. Isn't that literally the only reason countries enroll and compete to host in the first place?
Yeah, this will hit the economy pretty hard. They were dealt a shit hand though, and there is really no right decision they could make.
 

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man remember when Abe appeared on stage with the mario hat on? how things have changed since then, lol
 

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Sunk costs. They can't postpone it again, and there's no guarantee they'll have another chance to host it if they cancel. If they don't do it this year, it's a whole lot of wasted money.

Why can't they postpone it again? Summer 2022 would probably be fine - are there contract stipulations or something?
 

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I guess it's looking more and more probable to pull this event off, assuming olympians are getting vaccinated.
Did they ask the NBA players if they are going? It's already a shortened season with late end to the last season.

I know Lebron didn't want to answer about getting vaccines, but I imagine he will have to get vaccinated to participate
 

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Why can't they postpone it again? Summer 2022 would probably be fine - are there contract stipulations or something?

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...postponing-summer-games-again-impossible.html

Muto specified three main reasons why pushing back the Olympics until 2022 is not an option, saying athletes will not be able to train under pressure for an extra year and it is hardly possible that the organizing committee will win support for the idea from the international community.

He also said the Japanese organizers cannot secure the athletes' village in the Harumi waterfront district for another year as real estate companies need to sell the housing units there after they are renovated.

Also gonna cost even more if they delay it since they have to make more deals to book the venues and such :P
 

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Why can't they postpone it again? Summer 2022 would probably be fine - are there contract stipulations or something?
Also expecting the athletes to train for another year which still isn't a guarantee isn't really feasible or fair, but we all know nobody truly cares about the athletes when it comes to the Olympics, it's all about the money.
 

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Wow... that's 18B down the toilet for nothing. Still think they should cancel the event instead, they are getting fuck all without the tourism dollars while IOC makes out like bandits.
 

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If the IOC is going to do to this, people should be demanding they put in an order of enough vaccinations to vaccinate all of their staff and athletes who will be attending. It's the minimum they can do for putting people's health at risk.

Wow... that's 18B down the toilet for nothing. Still think they should cancel the event instead, they are getting fuck all without the tourism dollars while IOC makes out like bandits.
Might as well try and recoup some of the costs. Better to write off 15B THAN 18B.
 

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I'm surprised they aren't going to allow like vaccinated fans. Plenty of rich to foreigners will be vaccinated by then.
 

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this is exacerbated by the extremely slow vaccine rollout here in japan. aiming to host the games makes some sense if japan were super diligent about vaccinating everyone but instead the approach here has been wait and see and now japan is months behind western countries. the rollout only started officially a few weeks ago. its fucking infuriating, especially so the useless mass media which loves to put vaccine skeptics on tv and constantly runs fear mongering vaccine allergy segments.
 

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Coming from someone who lives in Tokyo, I'm *sooooooooooooo* happy they're not letting foreigners come here, especially since there's no chance in hell us normal folk are going to get vaccinated by July. Knowing that, I was petrified of having an influx of foreigners invade the city for a few weeks, even if the majority of them have been vaccinated.

With that said, the whole situation sucks. Seems like a complete waste to host the Olympics, even in a non-pandemic year.
 

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Wow... that's 18B down the toilet for nothing. Still think they should cancel the event instead, they are getting fuck all without the tourism dollars while IOC makes out like bandits.

Supposedly Tokyo will basically have the bid to the 2032 Summer Olympics in the bag in order to recoup at least some of the money lost. Ideally it should be a success considering how they have the infrastructure in place already.
 
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Did they ask the NBA players if they are going? It's already a shortened season with late end to the last season.

I know Lebron didn't want to answer about getting vaccines, but I imagine he will have to get vaccinated to participate


I know like 7 NBA players said they would go including Kawhi Leonord . But the first Olympic game is like 5 days after a potential game 7 of the NBA Finals.


The Olympics should be every 2 years and rotate between already 5 established sites.
 
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Wow... that's 18B down the toilet for nothing. Still think they should cancel the event instead, they are getting fuck all without the tourism dollars while IOC makes out like bandits.
I imagine there's considerable pressure from the combined interests of all the training facilities and agents backing athletes. Chump change compared to what it cost the host to prepare the event, but there are probably billions invested into training if you put all the different ones around the world together. More so when nations get involved, if Russia was willing to run a doping scheme across the board just to win medals, then imagine the pressure from the USA, China, and Russia combined just to win medals.

Though I do feel for the hypothetical athlete that may have reached their prime now, and will never again be at the same level.
 

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It was the only choice since they decided to not hold off. That said I wonder how they will recoup some of the cost via domestic tickets only/"you know it will happen elite tickets for celebs and what not." This is a country where dudes won't even leave work to take their wives to the hospital/be with them when their kids are born.

I know some groups were gathering tickets for their workers to "support the team" more or less, aka LDP shills, but that won't be enough either. And since a lot of smaller cities are maybe still gonna be hosting the teams across the country still, many businesses were looking forward to the influx that definitely won't happen. -oh well-
 

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I can't wait to see how the ticket companies try to get out of refunding the tickets they've sold (most events were already completely sold out).

Cartan was still going HAM trying to get sales just last week.

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