Ok so why is it the media's fault that people act a certain way, exactly? Do you mind explaining that jump in logic? If anime truly leads people into sexist and alt-right ideals as you say, what evidence is there to support this?
Yo, if your down for some horse girl talks head to the anime thread under hangouts.So what anime is everyone currently watching? Right now I am watching Uma Musume Pretty Derby. Gold Ship is best horse.
I agree with this but this is specifically targeted at spatula's argument not the entire thread. My own opinion on this matter is that defining people by the medium they consume is extremely hateful and trivializes bigger issues in society today. That isn't to say issues in these mediums are to be ignored but I feel like there isn't a 1:1 to a person's character soley by the medium they consume, so the idea of judging people just because they like anime or assuming they have alt-right ideals is ludicrous.People have been saying it on the thread, Anime does NOT drive people into the alt right, the kind of people who the alt right feeds on happen to be likely to be into anime and nerd interests in general like gaming, sci fi and comicbooks, because the Alt-Right swells its ranks with outcasts, and outcasts often have nerd interests, resulting in alt-right types occasionally having anime avatars.
My opinion is that people who judge people who have anime avatars need to grow up and stop engaging in high school level ad hominem tactics.
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Nice, I thought so since the German fansubbing scene was never that large to not have a general overview of the groups.Of course. I was part of GFS, one of the first german sub groups on ffm IRC.
I know its not THAT bad, but in my experience worse than in other fandoms, mainly franco-belgian comics (though most of fans of that are older than the average anime viewer).
People on the internet in forums/on social media/etc with extreme opinions are generally more louder than people with neutral or no opinions. That's usually how it works because without an opinion or a neutral one, why would you want to spread it? Also, if you have such a goal, you might utilize other things such as bots for Twitter (which is why I mentioned that getting impressions from there is generally not the best idea). Also, closed places like forums where the staff veer towards one side and punish the other also tend to become echo chambers over time.That might be true, but what if people from those communities are actually the "loudest" ones? On Era in threads about the sexualization of females in anime often people defend it by artistic choice and at least in my experience often people with anime-avatars (of young females). Like I said. Maybe its just my confirmation bias. Thats totally a possibility.
I guess outside of that one never noticed that it was quite that bad since you only knew it was about "cosplay" and that "it isn't the best place". Also, members probably posted rarely in other forums...or at least I've pretty much never met anyone that is part of that forum (or they just never mentioned it).Imo animexx was always a place for "weebs", who actually arent that deep into the media, but were quite vocal about being part of the fandom.
Also A LOT of cosplay drama.
How very neutral of you.
So what anime is everyone currently watching? Right now I am watching Uma Musume Pretty Derby. Gold Ship is best horse.
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I think point of the post is that such generalizations can apply to gaming communities as a whole as well. Like mass media which argue games are associated with "violent" incdients.A person who doesn't know what GAF/Resetera is likely also doesn't know what Gamergate is, these are things you have to be in deep into the hobby to know.
Even when John Oliver made that internet bullying piece that touched the harassment of Brianna Wu didn't even acknowledge gamergate by name.
Only if its a Deathstroke avatar...Everyone knows that only people with CW-DC show avatars are superior.
There's exceptions to every rule.What if it's an avatar of roshi fondling someone... We still got class of sophistication? ... :P Roshi is trash.
I'd also point to the likely correlation between people with anime avatars and straight white men.Maybe? Anime fans let a lot of things slide like how the medium objectifies women and the desire to sexualize younger individuals. I wouldn't be shocked if there was overlap.
It's not incest, it's "life counseling" :P
I don't but we tend to absorb media we agree with on some level, so a medium steeped in sexism, homogenity, etc seems to have a large contigent of sexist and more traditionally extreme views, one can only assume the medis they absorb is giving them a feedback loop.You want me to specifically discuss this subject? Ok so why is it the media's fault that people act a certain way, exactly? Do you mind explaining that jump in logic? If anime truly leads people into sexist and alt-right ideals as you say, what evidence is there to support this? In the first post you posted in this thread you said anime fans let things slide and there might be ("maybe") a correlation between anime avatars and alt-right. Do you have evidence for either of these assertions?
This I agree with 100%People have been saying it on the thread, Anime does NOT drive people into the alt right, the kind of people who the alt right feeds on happen to be likely to be into anime and nerd interests in general like gaming, sci fi and comicbooks, because the Alt-Right swells its ranks with outcasts, and outcasts often have nerd interests, resulting in alt-right types occasionally having anime avatars.
Kanye is a known Akira stan though. He made an entire music video tribute to itThe real reason Kanye is scum. Ghost in the Shell > Spirited Away > Akira.
What's wrong with a sad panda?
It's not discrimination if you choose to have that avatar.To tell you the truth i'm upset this thread is even a thing because it means that there's still people that think that, it's as stupid as when people dismiss your opinion on a videogame because you have a Master Chief/Kratos/Mario avatar only that here it's worse because the implications are much greater.
And what's worse is that more often than not the moderation team often don't act when these discriminations happen.
To tell you the truth i'm upset this thread is even a thing because it means that there's still people that think that, it's as stupid as when people dismiss your opinion on a videogame because you have a Master Chief/Kratos/Mario avatar only that here it's worse because the implications are much greater.
And what's worse is that more often than not the moderation team often don't act when these discriminations happen.
Anyone who doesn't use a photo of themselves as their DP is sus.
Kinda a not-so-great comparison as One Piece has a copious amount of sexualization of female characters -- not as much as Kill La Kill whose entire basis was that, but still a large amount.
Even if one doesn't have an anime/manga avatar the correlation still exists to those people, it's not the avatar per se that triggers the reaction but the mere fact of watching or liking those things that makes people go "oh so you are a nazi/racist/whatever and/or your opinion is invalid".