If Modern Warfare 2 Remastered happens this year, should "No Russian" be removed?

[Deleted member 12129]

Is there any way you could bring attention back to No Russian without drawing comparisons to videos of yesterday's shooting in New Zealand? Is there a place for No Russian in 2019 to begin with?

I think they have to cut it personally.

 

[Error 52]

Look man if you make a level about a mass shooting you can't remove it because there was a mass shooting what the hell did you expect

The game let you skip it anyway

 

[Dusktildawn48]

No, but them making it just a cutscenes would be more appropriate then it being playable.

 

[Dreamboum]

Was there ever a place for No Russian ?

 

[VectorPrime]

Make it a cutscene maybe. But the plot is already so nonsensical that just plain removing it wouldn't really matter much in terms of that.

 

[Dojima]

That's almost a 10 years old game. No need to remove anything + its skipable

 

[Greatest Ever]

Honestly cut it, how much does it add artistically?

 

[WillyFive]

No, but it should have a disclaimer and allow it to be skipped, or add the option of it as a scripted cutscene.

 

[Dr. Caroll]

No it shouldn't. It's an important part of the story, and a counterpoint to the feel-good heroic fetishism that increasingly plagues the Call of Duty series. You can either watch the massacre, or take part in it. Those are your choices. Call of Duty: World at War presented you with unarmed Germans begging for their lives, as Reznov offered you the choice between burning them alive or shooting them. That was an important statement.

No, but it should have a disclaimer and allow it to be skipped

Click to shrink...

Call of Duty games always have disclaimers for potentially disturbing content accompanied by a censored mode. The censored version of Black Ops 3 is... pretty odd.

 

[TheInfinityGauntlet]

I think it should be kept in purely because the outrage would bring more attention to it and drive people to play it on regular MW2 (which is still incredibly easy to access)

Taking it out of the remaster wouldn't do much for removing it from existence

I also think the upgrade (visually) would make it more visceral and harrowing and hopefully get some of these chuckleheads who think it's all fun and games to reconsider their stance

 

[ShadowAUS]

No, but them making it just a cutscenes would be more appropriate then it being playable.

Click to shrink...

Whils't I wouldn't particularly care if it was removed as I thought it was a pretty terrible mission in the first place, not for moralistic reasons but just purely design and narrative reasons. Saying that, I don't think it NEEDS to be removed and I doubt they would.

 

[Bricktop]

There is an option to skip it, leave it in. It's part of the game and a piece of gaming history, there is no reason to completely remove it.

 

[Bedameister]

No.

They could use the German version though. I wouldn't mind that.

 

[svacina]

Is there any way you could bring attention back to No Russian without drawing comparisons to videos of yesterday's shooting in New Zealand? Is there a place for No Russian in 2019 to begin with?

I think they have to cut it personally.

Click to shrink...

What's the rating, M? Then no.

 

[Error 52]

No, but it should have a disclaimer and allow it to be skipped

Click to shrink...

What a bold id-Oh right they did that already

 

[Mr.Fletcher]

I think it should remain in.

 

[LoNe_eXiLe]

No

 

[bane833]

Why now? There have been plenty of mass shootings since the game released.

 

[modiz]

I think they should just have the option to skip it (and inform the player that the mission is skippable)

 

[Nateo]

No

 

[MillionIII]

No, if it was ok then it's ok now.

 

[Deleted member 17990]

They'll likely just keep an option to skip it

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Absolutely not

 

[LetalisAmare]

The original release already gave you the option to skip it and you didnt have to take part in shooting either.

 

[Zhukov]

I also think the upgrade (visually) would make it more visceral and harrowing and hopefully get some of these chuckleheads who think it's all fun and games to reconsider their stance

Click to shrink...

You seriously think the people who act like massacres are fun and games are going to have their minds changed by... a massacre in a fun game?

 

[Eolz]

No, but it should have a disclaimer and allow it to be skipped

Click to shrink...

What a bold id-Oh right they did that already

Click to shrink...

Lol.
This.

 

[Barry Sandwich]

What would removing it achieve?

Should we remove challenging content from any medium?

Of course not.

 

[Deleted member 47318]

No, it would be nonsensical to remove it based on that.

I think they should just have the option to skip it (and inform the player that the mission is skippable)

Click to shrink...

That's what it was like in the original.

 

[SJRB]

No Russian was tasteless shock value when it came it - neither time nor real world events change that.

Should they remove it? No. If you feel offended or uncomfortable, skip the sequence.

 

[Sameer Sedlar]

No.
Games shouldn't avoid such issues or displaying them, especially mature games. Games can reflect the horrors and awfulness of certain actions, games should be mature in content and context, regardless if MW2 does that or not.

Also as others said, the game does offer you the choice to 'Skip' the whole scene if you so desire.

 

[Deleted member 4372]

How about remove 8chan. 4chan. Can we start there.

Removing No Russian will do jack shit to stop white nationalist terrorism.

 

[Butterworth]

No. It's part of the original vision and story. Skip it.

 

[Barry Sandwich]

I also think the upgrade (visually) would make it more visceral and harrowing and hopefully get some of these chuckleheads who think it's all fun and games to reconsider their stance

Click to shrink...

It wasn't a Master System game. It came out on last-gen! How much effort do you think Activision are going to put into the graphics?

 

[Plasma]

Leave it in, it's already skippable so if you don't like it don't play it but the original never forced you to kill civilians anyway.

 

[KainXVIII]

"No Russian" was removed in russian version of MW2, i wonder what they will do with remaster..

 

[modiz]

No, it would be nonsensical to remove it based on that.


That's what it was like in the original.

Click to shrink...

ah alright, i never played MW2, only the MW3 (and MWR from PSPlus a few days ago) so i wasnt aware.

 

[ShrtAttnGmr]

When it was released, 'No Russian' was a gut punch and helped MW2 be more than just another shooter. I thought it was a great example of what could be done in a mature-rated game without simply just resorting to blood, guts, cursing, and boobs. You can skip the level. There are disclaimers. It should not be removed.

 

[Datajoy]

Certainly cut it.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

No. Stop censoring everything for everything.

 

[ThereAreFourNaan]

It's not any more tasteless this year than it was in 2009, a year which saw (in the United States, where the game was made) 2 mass shootings in march, 2 in April, 1 in August and 1 in November. Contextually, nothing has changed.

 

[Soundscream]

No

 

[Fastidioso]

Remove it, is like to give the reason to who thinks videogames cause such things...if I can say.

 

[WrenchNinja]

The fact that you can skip it and the fact that it's completely unengaging gameplay wise tells me you can remove it. You dont even have to shoot anyone. I have the Platinum for the PS3 version of the game and surprise, there's no trophy tied to it. There's no Intel to collect. It's a stupid mission that only serves as a stupid plot point in a stupid game.

 

[Roxas]

Yeah, no. No Russian was a shocking and interesting mission, the game gave you a warning about sensitive content and you could skip the mission entirely, and also you could play it and shoot no civilians at all.

 

[Xando]

Why would they remove it?

 

[Fastidioso]

"No Russian" was removed in russian version of MW2, i wonder what they will do with remaster..

Click to shrink...

Never change Putin. He practically legalised homophobia and domestic violence but he can't stand violence in the video game. This man. Sorry for the OT.

 

[Psamtik]

I don't know, honestly. It was just kind of unseemly in 2009, but we've had so many high-profile mass shootings since then.

 

[astroturfing]

definitely in this day and age with terrorism and everything it should be removed, no need to promote senseless violence in videogames that a lot of children play.

 

[Dr. Caroll]

It wasn't a Master System game. It came out on last-gen! How much effort do you think Activision are going to put into the graphics?

Click to shrink...

Much like Modern Warfare Remastered, Modern Warfare 2 Remastered will almost certainly be a from-the-ground-up remake that just happens to slavishly imitate the original game.

 

[ShrtAttnGmr]

definitely in this day and age with terrorism and everything it should be removed, no need to promote senseless violence in videogames that a lot of children play.

Click to shrink...

Rated M for Mature. May as well go censor R rated movies too. Ubisoft just released a videogame where you're literally fighting through the United States Capital in the aftermath of a terrorist plot.