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Watched this for the first time. (Though it was sad since Murray and Ramis' friendship fell apart during the making of this movie)

But I wonder how long he was stuck in that time loop? Seems like he spent a fair number of time… was it 10 years?

I also like that they didn't explain it. It didn't need one.
 

Shadybiz

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It was a lot more than 10 years.

I believe that one scene was deleted (or at least planned) that would show Phil going to a library, and reading one page out of one book per day, and that he would eventually get through the whole library. So...quite a long time.
 
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Theories change but it was a very long time, 100's if not 1000's of years if you do some convoluted movie math.
 

Blader

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Was actually looking at this on wiki just last night. The filmmakers seemed to suggest anything from decades to thousands of years.
 

BWoog

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Didn't someone actually break it down and it came out to thousands of years?
 

Protoman200X

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Wouldn't he have gone crazy after a couple of years. I would have broke after a month

Given the tone of the film, it wouldn't surprise me there could have been a joke where Murray's character had mentioned he did go mad after sometime, but eventually grew bored with that after a millennia or two.

It was a lot more than 10 years.

I believe that one scene was deleted (or at least planned) that would show Phil going to a library, and reading one page out of one book per day, and that he would eventually get through the whole library. So...quite a long time.

Wait, a literal page from a single book, per day?!

And that library was not small (when it was shown in the background in the establishing shots for the film), so it's safe to say he was stuck repeating that day for hundreds of thousands of years. 0_0
 
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NekoFever

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It's definitely a long time based purely on how long it takes to do things like master a musical instrument or achieve fluency in a new language. The filmmakers have given inconsistent answers but it's certainly into decades at the very least.

Wouldn't he have gone crazy after a couple of years. I would have broke after a month
I mean he does try to kill himself many times, and that's just the times we see in the film.
 

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I also like that they didn't explain it. It didn't need one.

From what I've read, earlier drafts of the script explained why he was in the loop and how long it was. Earlier drafts had him going to the library each day and reading one page out of a book. He was stuck so long that he eventually read every book in the library. As for how it happened, from what I remember, one of the earlier drafts had an ex girlfriend, or some other woman that was mad at him, put a curse on him that caused the loop.
 

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The duration of Phil's real-time entrapment in the time loop has been the subject of much discussion.[34][122] Ramis once said that he believed the film took place over 10 years.[34] When a blogger estimated the actual length to be approximately nine years, Ramis disputed that estimate and his own. He replied that it takes at least 10 years to become good at an activity (such as Phil learning ice sculpting and to speak French) and "allotting for the down-time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years."[123] A similar estimate suggests that it takes at least 10,000 hours of study (just over a year's worth of time) to become an expert in a field, and given the number of loops seen or mentioned on screen, and how long Phil could spend per day studying, that Phil spent approximately 12,400 days, or nearly 34 years, trapped in the loop.[122] In Rubin's original concept draft, Phil himself estimates that he has been trapped for between 70 and 80 years, having used books to track the passage of time.[3]
Born to a Jewish family, Ramis had adopted a Buddhist lifestyle from his second wife, embracing some of its precepts.[10][124][125] He said that based on Buddhist doctrine, it takes approximately 10,000 years for a soul to evolve to the next level.[7]
So between 30 and 10,000 years.
 

plagiarize

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Watched this for the first time. (Though it was sad since Murray and Ramis' friendship fell apart during the making of this movie)

But I wonder how long he was stuck in that time loop? Seems like he spent a fair number of time… was it 10 years?

I also like that they didn't explain it. It didn't need one.
If it helps, they reconciled before Ramis passed away.
 

sigma722

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someone did a study of this, taking into account how many hours it takes to master certain skills like ice sculpting, piano, card throwing, etc.

Anyway they came up with 33 years, 350 days.

news.yahoo.com

How long was Phil Connors stuck in Groundhog Day?

2 February is Groundhog Day – when, according to Punxsutawney folklore – a groundhog called Punxsutawney Phil predicts the arrival of spring.

is a summary, but they link to the original article:

whatculture.com

Just How Many Days Does Bill Murray REALLY Spend Stuck Reliving Groundhog Day?

WhatCulture's Simon Gallagher answers one of the most asked questions in cinematic history...
 

Kenzodielocke

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I havent thought about this movie or this aspect in a long time or at all.

And this gives me nightmares.
 

Pocky4Th3Win

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someone did a study of this, taking into account how many hours it takes to master certain skills like ice sculpting, piano, card throwing, etc.

Anyway they came up with 33 years, 350 days.

news.yahoo.com

How long was Phil Connors stuck in Groundhog Day?

2 February is Groundhog Day – when, according to Punxsutawney folklore – a groundhog called Punxsutawney Phil predicts the arrival of spring.

is a summary, but they link to the original article:

whatculture.com

Just How Many Days Does Bill Murray REALLY Spend Stuck Reliving Groundhog Day?

WhatCulture's Simon Gallagher answers one of the most asked questions in cinematic history...
I have a lot of issues with the original article. A lot assumes he learned and memorized things in a day which is not likely, especially since some actions only happen at specific times.

As an example, the article says he saves the kid about 2+ times but the way he reacts and states the kid has never thanked him makes it sound like he has done it far more than that.
 
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SilkySm00th

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Learning musical instruments, languages, everyone's whole route in the city, their names and their families. Saving lives 2 or 7 or 200 times trying to get them to tomorrow. How many years do you just go crazy? How many times did he actually try and kill himself? How many times did he just kill everyone in the town instead? Reading every book or menu in reach...

Thousands of years sounds fair to me.
 

sir_crocodile

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You're leaving out that Murray was going through a divorce while they were filming this

It's in the article. Was he going through a divorce for the next 21 years too? He only turned up when Ramis was dying.

With all the other stories that have come out about him since this seems far more like a pattern of a horrible person then just someone distraught over a divorce anyway
 
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Rhomega

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You gotta wonder what living through 1,000 + - years would really do to a person's mental well-being.

Especially when he gets out. He's so used to the clockwork routine he won't be able to deal with unexpected things in a city he hasn't been to in over a millennium.

By the way, today is the 30th anniversary of the movie.
 

Zeliard

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You gotta wonder what living through 1,000 + - years would really do to a person's mental well-being.

He does consider himself to be an actual god at some point. Maybe he was just in there so long that the madness went full circle and came back around to vague lucidity by the time he escaped.
 

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Especially when he gets out. He's so used to the clockwork routine he won't be able to deal with unexpected things in a city he hasn't been to in over a millennium.

By the way, today is the 30th anniversary of the movie.

He does consider himself to be an actual god at some point. Maybe he was just in there so long that the madness went full circle and came back around to vague lucidity by the time he escaped.

Perhaps the same "mystical" aspects that kept him in the same physical state each time he woke up also aided him in keeping his sanity, somewhat. The fact he keeps his memories being the exception. He did snap at some point, though, so perhaps it didn't help. His falling in love with Rita maybe brought him back to reality/focus.
 
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someone did a study of this, taking into account how many hours it takes to master certain skills like ice sculpting, piano, card throwing, etc.

Anyway they came up with 33 years, 350 days.

news.yahoo.com

How long was Phil Connors stuck in Groundhog Day?

2 February is Groundhog Day – when, according to Punxsutawney folklore – a groundhog called Punxsutawney Phil predicts the arrival of spring.

is a summary, but they link to the original article:

whatculture.com

Just How Many Days Does Bill Murray REALLY Spend Stuck Reliving Groundhog Day?

WhatCulture's Simon Gallagher answers one of the most asked questions in cinematic history...
This always seemed silly considering we have no idea what his level of mastery of those skills was going in and just other weird assumptions
 

sir_crocodile

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He does consider himself to be an actual god at some point. Maybe he was just in there so long that the madness went full circle and came back around to vague lucidity by the time he escaped.

I didn't feel like he was that serious about the god thing. It felt like it was a whimsical thought that came from being in the loop so long that he knew everybody in the town and their "scheduled actions".
 

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could have sworn they said 30 yars
 

Unknownlight

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someone did a study of this, taking into account how many hours it takes to master certain skills like ice sculpting, piano, card throwing, etc.

Anyway they came up with 33 years, 350 days.

news.yahoo.com

How long was Phil Connors stuck in Groundhog Day?

2 February is Groundhog Day – when, according to Punxsutawney folklore – a groundhog called Punxsutawney Phil predicts the arrival of spring.

is a summary, but they link to the original article:

whatculture.com

Just How Many Days Does Bill Murray REALLY Spend Stuck Reliving Groundhog Day?

WhatCulture's Simon Gallagher answers one of the most asked questions in cinematic history...
I was going to respond to this thread with "My gut feeling from watching the movie is maybe 35 years", so I want to defend this article even if its methodology is shaky.
 

DiipuSurotu

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Plot twist: he was in it for a single day, there was no time loop and he was just lost in his own fantasy while daydreaming
 

skeezx

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it was so long that the sun collapsed meanwhile and compressed space-time to a comfy 90 min run of his misery
 
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It always felt like a couple hundred years to me. Enough to lose your mind several times then come out of it as some kind of Boddhisatva.