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Honda is giving the Civic a bit of attention for the 2025 model year, revising the compact's styling and powertrain options. Honda announced on Thursday that for the first time since 2015, a Civic Hybrid model is destined for U.S. shores, in both hatchback and sedan configurations.

While we haven't had a Civic hybrid in the United States since the ninth-generation Civic left production back in 2015, Honda's other hybrid models have been a huge part of the brand's recent success. The CR-V Hybrid was the best-selling hybrid in the U.S. last year, according to the automaker, with some 361,457 units sold. Honda hopes that the hybrid will make up 40 percent of Civic sales overall.

Regardless of the powertrain configuration, the 2025 Honda Civic will sport a new face. The front-end lines have been revised, with a more hexagonal grille pattern and a more aggressive fascia. There looks to be some clear inspiration from the Civic Type R, which is something we can get behind. The Sport Touring model shown here is also equipped with a unique set of wheels, though other tweaks seem to be relatively minimal.

The U.S.-bound Civic Hybrid will be built at the brand's Canada and Indiana-based production facilities.







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The Toyota Camry has long been the definitive midsize sedan. While people continually say the sedan is dead, Toyota defies that by selling about 300,000 Camrys a year to families, Uber drivers, and really anyone who needs affordable and totally reliable transportation. And now there's a new one.

The 2025 Toyota Camry introduces the ninth generation of the popular sedan. It's available exclusively as a hybrid, and buyers can pick between front- or all-wheel drive configurations as well as LE, SE, XLE, and XSE trim levels.

Its hybrid powertrain pairs a 2.5-liter four-cylinder to electric motors. The front-drive variant gets two electric motors and makes a total of 225 horsepower. The AWD version adds a third motor-generator to the rear axle, boosting total output to 232 hp.

Both powertrains use an electronically controlled continuously variable transmission (eCVT). The hybrid system uses a lithium-ion battery, but Toyota isn't disclosing its capacity until closer to the new Camry's launch.

It appears that the V6 engine is dead in the Camry. "[This is] just part of moving to all hybrid," a spokesperson told Motor1. "[The] new system will have ample power and is retuned for performance driving feel."

The Camry comes with a 7.0-inch digital instrument cluster and an 8.0-inch infotainment screen. The XLE and XSE feature 12.3-inch displays for the gauges and multimedia duties. The tech includes support for wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, in addition to having a wireless charging pad. The higher-level grades also offer a 10.0-inch heads up display. There's also an available nine-speaker JBL stereo.

The Camry is still a significant vehicle for the brand. In 2022, the Camry was the fifth-best-selling vehicle in the United States with 295,201 deliveries. In fourth was Toyota's own RAV4 at 399,941 units.

The new Camry hits dealers in spring 2024. While pricing isn't available yet, we'd expect the new model to be broadly similar in price to the Camry it replaces.
www.motor1.com

2025 Toyota Camry: This Is It

The 2025 Toyota Camry launches only with hybrid power. Buyers can pick between front- or all-wheel drive configurations for the LE, SE, XLE, and XSE trims.
 

SpillYerBeans

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Oct 25, 2017
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They are doing the Civic hatchback too, nice. Been seeing more of those on the road and I quite like the look of their rear.
 

AwShucks

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm going to drive my car into the ground before getting a new one but I'm tempted by these.
 

Fireye

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Oct 26, 2017
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Not a fan of the large piano black swathes in the Camry, nor the piano black "fins" on the passenger dash.

Otherwise it seems good, I wonder what prices will be, and how the new infotainment systems perform.
 

skeezx

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Oct 27, 2017
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damn maybe would've held off getting a 2023 civic touring last summer if I knew. but my last car was getting up there so I didn't want to F around and find out
 

alr1ght

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nice to see they trimmed that ugly oversized upper lip on the Civic.

Camry remains ugly with that giant lower grille.
 

super-famicom

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Oct 26, 2017
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A good step towards less emissions, but I wish they'd make Corolla or Camry EVs. But the current Toyota chairman seems to prefer hybrids and doesn't see ICE going away.
 

MadJosh04

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Nov 9, 2022
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I did a double take when I saw the headline because I drove a hybrid civic for 10 years lol
I had no idea you couldn't get them new anymore
 

Soundscream

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The only issue I see with hybrid cars is the second hand market. Replacing the batteries can be expensive so the days of getting a well maintained Toyota/Honda for cheap at 100k miles and still getting another 100k miles without major repairs are likely going to be a thing of the past.
 

Avitus

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wanted to wait for the new Camry but they barely refreshed the exterior. I understand wanting to save money but damn. No Prius-esque glow up.
 

Autumn

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Apr 1, 2018
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Why not just get Prius?

For a bigger car a better option would probably be an SUV.
 

TylerD

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Oct 25, 2017
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The only issue I see with hybrid cars is the second hand market. Replacing the batteries can be expensive so the days of getting a well maintained Toyota/Honda for cheap at 100k miles and still getting another 100k miles without major repairs are likely going to be a thing of the past.

Issue I have with older EVs as well but these will be a fraction of the cost to replace. Aged lithium batteries are a money timebomb for second hand owners whether hybrid $, plug-in hybrid $$, full electric $$$$.
 

SRG01

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Oct 25, 2017
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Corolla Hybrid is better than Camry Hybrid because of the larger trunk size.

Yes, my 2020 Corolla Hybrid has a larger trunk than the same year's Camry Hybrid. The Camry has more interior room though.
 

Consequence

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Oct 27, 2017
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While I know that the current Civic is much larger and more premium than my 08, I am having a hard time wrapping my brain around being in such a better place in my life than I was when I got it 13 years ago but somehow another Civic is firmly in the range of what I should be spending on a car. The internal keeping up with the joneses is bad but hard to overcome!
 

Stencil

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Oct 30, 2017
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Oh man I'd love a hybrid Camry. It would be my 4th Camry in a line of only Camrys. I think at this point I should just keep the Camry combo up until I can't drive anymore. Then I could say the Camry drove me til the wheels fell off!
 

BasilZero

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Oct 25, 2017
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Damn the mileage must be quite nice for the camry

My Venza gets 38 so I am guessing the Camry gets like somewhere in the 50s

(While my old Tacoma gets like 17 lol)
 

MrSunshine

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Oct 27, 2017
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I did a double take when I saw the headline because I drove a hybrid civic for 10 years lol
I had no idea you couldn't get them new anymore

For some of those years (2019-2022 model years according to Wikipedia) Honda sold the third-generation Insight. It looks a lot like a Civic and shares some of the same features. They probably didn't need two very similar cars and are moving from the Insight to the Civic hybrid name.
 

bounchfx

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Oct 25, 2017
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i cant believe i actually like the Prius design better than these (these images at least). but if there's a civic or mazda 3 hatchback i am interested
regardless I'm happy to see the competition here
 

Henry Jones Jr

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Oct 27, 2017
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Love our 2016 Civic. I want our next car to be a plug in hybrid civic hatchback (or a full EV civic) so this is one step closer.
 

J_ToSaveTheDay

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Oct 25, 2017
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So tempted to trade in my 2019 Civic Hatch toward the new hybrid one. Would need to run some math to see how much money gas savings would potentially be... plus I have to consider the high likelihood of dealer markups on the price too. :/

EDIT: Saw the UK Autotrader review of the Civic Hybrid last year and been kinda hoping it would come stateside ever since.


View: https://youtu.be/yRHabI5MA3k?si=X_w6zQ0M0lXPsiPU
 

StreetsAhead

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Sep 16, 2020
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Love my 2022 Civic Hatchback and would certainly consider trading for a Hybrid, though I don't use much gas.
 

Zej

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Oct 25, 2017
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Finally. Prologue looks nice too, but hoping for more options in a few years.
 

milkyway

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I had my eye on the Hyundai Sonata as the 2024 version looks fantastic, but I have a Civic and I would definitely buy another.

But also I will probably hold on to my Civic until it falls apart because car prices frighten me lol. And it definitely has at least another 7 good years.
 

sfedai0

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Oct 27, 2017
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Too bad it wont be stick for the Honda. I would buy a hatchback like CRZ in a heartbeat. I just cant drive autos.