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10.21 million PC and console games were sold across Europe according to GSD, a slight drop of 2.3% year-on-year.

This data covers all games sold digitally by most major games publishers across the Eurozone (for UK market analysis, click here), and physical game sales in all major Eurozone markets.
The sales increase may seem small, but it's impressive when you consider that Call of Duty launched in the October sales window last year, but this year's CoD came out in November. That means Europe achieved this growth even without Activision's hugely popular first person shooter.

EA Sports FC 24 was comfortably the best-selling game of the month. Sales of EA's football title were 10% lower than last year's FIFA 23, although some of that can be explained by the brand name change and the fact there was a winter World Cup last year to help generate excitement around the sport.
Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed Mirage is No.2, beating Spider-Man 2 by a very narrow margin (and Assassin's Creed Mirage was on sale for two weeks longer). Mirage's first four weeks on the market are over 49% lower than what Assassin's Creed Valhalla managed. Mirage is billed as a smaller, more classical take on the series and so there was no expectation that it would compete with Valhalla. Compared with older Assassin's Creed games, Mirage sales are 22% higher than 2018's Odyssey and 6% higher than 2017's Assassin's Creed Origins.
Onto Spider-Man 2, and the PS5 game's launch was strong, with the first two weeks up nearly 30% compared with 2018's Spider-Man, and almost three times higher than 2020's Spider-Man: Miles Morales.

Compared with last year's big PlayStation game, God of War Ragnarok, the first two weeks of sales for Spider-Man 2 are 28% lower. However, that's because God of War was also released on PS4. If we focus on just PS5 sales, Spider-Man 2 outsold Ragnarok by 8% after two weeks.
In fourth place is Super Mario Bros Wonder, although the Nintendo game may have charted higher as this data does not include download figures (Nintendo doesn't share digital numbers with the charts company). Launch sales of Wonder are double that of 2017's Super Mario Odyssey (when the Nintendo Switch install base was much, much smaller), nearly 59% bigger than 2020's Super Mario 3D All-Stars and nearly 53% bigger than 2021's Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury. Nintendo has announced that Super Mario Bros Wonder is the fastest selling Super Mario game in Europe.
Also new in the charts for October are Lords of the Fallen (No.5), Metal Gear Sold: Master Collection Volume 1 (No.16), EA Sports UFC 5 (No.17), Detective Pikachu Returns (No.32), Sonic Superstars (No.33) and Forza Motorsport (No.42).
In terms of individual countries, EA Sports FC 24 was No.1 in most markets, but things differ in terms of the second position. The second best-selling game of October in France is Super Mario Bros Wonder, in Germany it is Assassin's Creed: Mirage, while in Italy and Spain it is Spider-Man 2.
Over in console hardware, PS5 is comfortably the No.1 console in Europe (across tracked markets, UK and Germany not included). PS5 sales are up 143% over October last year, driven by the availability of stock this time around. Nintendo Switch is at No.2 despite a 20% drop in sales compared with last October, while Xbox Series S and X sales continue to struggle in Europe, down 52% year-on-year.

In total, 481,000 consoles were sold across the tracked markets in October.
Compared with September, overall market sales are up nearly 16%, PS5 sales are up 11%, Switch sales are up 10% and Xbox sales are down just under 20%. Please note: Xbox's big exclusive of the year (Starfield) launched in September, while PlayStation and Nintendo's big games (Spider-Man 2 and Super Mario Bros Wonder) launched in October.

In terms of peripherals and accessories, 1.14 million products were sold across tracked markets (down 3.6% year-on-year), while wallet/point card sales are down 4% to 969,818 units sold.

European GSD October 2023 Top 10 (Digital + Physical)

PositionTitle
1EA Sports FC 24 (EA)
2Assassin's Creed Mirage (Ubisoft)
3Spider-Man 2 (Sony)
4Super Mario Bros Wonder (Nintendo)*
5Grand Theft Auto 5 (Rockstar)
6Lords of the Fallen 2023 (CI Games)
7Battlefield 2042 (EA)
8Hogwarts Legacy (Warner Bros)
9Red Dead Redemption 2 (Rockstar)
10It Takes Two (EA)
 

ghostcrew

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"Then Spider-Man 2. First 2 week sales across the Eurozone are 30% bigger compared with Spider-Man 2."

Big if true.
 

Strings

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"Then Spider-Man 2. First 2 week sales across the Eurozone are 30% bigger compared with Spider-Man 2."

Big if true.
But... But Spider-Man 2 is another 30% more on top of that too. AND SPIDER-MAN 2 ANOTHER 30% BIGGER AGAIN.

oooooooh-repeating.gif
 

Dan Thunder

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Nov 2, 2017
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Damn, Xbox hardware down 52% in October?!

That's crazy as I'd have thought that Starfield would have been a big driver for their consoles.
 

Red Kong XIX

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Damn, AC Mirage sold well in Europe. Didn't expect it to outsell Spider-Man 2. Advantage of launching on 5 platforms vs 1 I guess. Oh, and being cheaper, and two more weeks of tracking.
 

Super

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The console fortunes of PlayStation and Xbox in Europe couldn't be more different. I really thought Europe would be where Forza Motorsport would do well but debuting at #42 is terrible.
 

AEF1907

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Also strong numbers for Mirage, I guess from now on Ubisoft from time to time will also release more classic AC titles seeing that there is a definitely a market for it.
Great numbers for PS5 & Spidey too.
 

modiz

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I didnt realize AC was this huge of a franchise in EU, and this is with Mirage selling 50% below Valhalla.
 

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-52% YoY is shockingly awful. Forza seems to have massively bombed as well. I wish Microsoft would put someone in a leadership position who understands the European market and actually tried to make an effort with things like localisation and marketing.
 

Mung

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Just going to pull up a chair and chill while waiting for someone to tell me Microsoft doesn't care about console sales anymore... - 52% is gross.
If they didn't care the the ceo wouldn't tweet about it when they have good sales, like a couple of years ago. Of course they care.

The other point of course is, if they really don't care about selling it, why should customers care about their console ?
 
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IIFloodyII

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Haven't got round to it yet, but happy to see Mirage do well. Hopefully we get more "smaller" AC's in-between the big behemoth ones.
 

Ratuso

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What an amazing performance from Mirage. Ubisoft must be very happy. Congrats to Bordeaux and other teams.

AC Red is gonna be huge
 

jroc74

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"Then Spider-Man 2. First 2 week sales across the Eurozone are 30% bigger compared with Spider-Man 2."

Big if true.

Spider-Man 2 bigger than Spider-Man 2 confirmed.

But... But Spider-Man 2 is another 30% more on top of that too. AND SPIDER-MAN 2 ANOTHER 30% BIGGER AGAIN.

oooooooh-repeating.gif
Lmao!!
52% down is ridiculous.

Just going to pull up a chair and chill while waiting for someone to tell me Microsoft doesn't care about console sales anymore... - 52% is gross.

-52% YoY is shockingly awful. Forza seems to have massively bombed as well. I wish Microsoft would put someone in a leadership position who understands the European market and actually tried to make an effort with things like localisation and marketing.
These seem like end of generation results.....damn.
 

Izanagi89

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> People shocked at Xbox console sales
> People not shocked at Xbox console sales
> "How are console sales down with Starfield and Forza releases"
> "Gamepass, duh"
> "Xbox doesn't even really care about console sales. It's not a big deal"
> "Of course Xbox cares about console sales. It's bad"
> "Xbox is probably going to exit the hardware space"
> "Don't be stupid"

Is that about right?
 

Deluxera

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I didn't expect AC Mirage to do as well as it seems to have done. It was supposed a refurbished Valhalla DLC they put out while waiating for the bigger games to come back. Ubisoft must be very happy, they haven't got a win like this in a long time.
 

CuriousTom92

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> People shocked at Xbox console sales
> People not shocked at Xbox console sales
> "How are console sales down with Starfield and Forza releases"
> "Gamepass, duh"
> "Xbox doesn't even really care about console sales. It's not a big deal"
> "Of course Xbox cares about console sales. It's bad"
> "Xbox is probably going to exit the hardware space"
> "Don't be stupid"

Is that about right?

Are you trying to ruin other people's fun?

But yeah, more or less.
 

IIFloodyII

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> People shocked at Xbox console sales
> People not shocked at Xbox console sales
> "How are console sales down with Starfield and Forza releases"
> "Gamepass, duh"
> "Xbox doesn't even really care about console sales. It's not a big deal"
> "Of course Xbox cares about console sales. It's bad"
> "Xbox is probably going to exit the hardware space"
> "Don't be stupid"

Is that about right?
No spoilers 😡
 

Carmelozi

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Strong results for PlayStation and Switch alongside Spider-Man 2 and Mario Wonder! But Xbox... man... -52% and they put out Forza Motorsport that didn't even make in the top 10-20. Incredibly disappointing and it's confirming their downward trend in EU. It makes you wonder if they are really interested in that market or heck if they will push hardware for the next gen.

Also, wild to see AC Mirage did better than Odyssey or Origin. I thought it would do less because they are not usual AC formula but I guess the return to its root did wonder. It'll be interesting to see if seeing that success, Ubi will carve a new AC line, with more stealth and a world reasonably sized alongside their big AC worlds.
 

Legend_Knight98

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xbox hardware sales are a disaster. if it continues like this I really have a hard time thinking about its future as a hardware platform
 

poklane

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Can't exactly call it a surprise anymore, but yeah, strong PlayStaton sales, about what you'd expect from the Switch, and shit Xbox sales. 52% down YoY in just the third year on the market, just after releasing Starfield and Forza simply isn't good.
 

Cheat Code

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Forza Motorsport has really bad word of mouth even amongst Forza fans. Not surprised it did badly, hard to find any opinions on it other than just "play Forza Horizon 5 instead".
 

cvbas

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Terrible from Xbox, but they don't deserve much more than that when they treat every market outside the US/UK like pure shit.
 

JAY_HORROR

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> People shocked at Xbox console sales
> People not shocked at Xbox console sales
> "How are console sales down with Starfield and Forza releases"
> "Gamepass, duh"
> "Xbox doesn't even really care about console sales. It's not a big deal"
> "Of course Xbox cares about console sales. It's bad"
> "Xbox is probably going to exit the hardware space"
> "Don't be stupid"

Is that about right?
LMAO
 

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www.gamesindustry.biz

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is close to out-selling Vanguard after just 2 weeks | European Monthly Charts

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 on the brink of over-taking Call of Duty: Vanguard

Apparently last october the XSX saw a 26% rise YoY. Which means 2023 is even down compared to 2021.
Wild considering how bad last year was for first party and Xbox Series X apparently being non existent. I thought Series S would be more popular as the generation went on and casuals started upgrading their consoles but guess not. That could change when your EA FC, COD, Fortnite, etc. become next gen only but I doubt it at this point.
 

Zok310

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Man EU loves them some AC, i have to get Mirage its on sale now for 40 bux.
Is MS shipping consoles to EU? -52% in October is some we dgaf anymore type energy from both seller and buyer.
 

Super

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Wild considering how bad last year was for first party and Xbox Series X apparently being non existent. I thought Series S would be more popular as the generation went on and casuals started upgrading their consoles but guess not. That could change when your EA FC, COD, Fortnite, etc. become next gen only but I doubt it at this point.

If I told you FIFA 19 released on PS3 in September 2018 would you believe me?
 

Red Kong XIX

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Ooooof Forza, that's a terrible spot. Half a month only but woooo wheeee
Searched for it in the article after your comment, #42 is definitely much lower than I thought. Would have betted on Top 30 at least, even with it being on GP day 1. It's not like racing sims don't chart in Europe, GT7 was #2 in its launch month.
 

Theorry

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Forza Motorsport has really bad word of mouth even amongst Forza fans. Not surprised it did badly, hard to find any opinions on it other than just "play Forza Horizon 5 instead".
that would be weird. FH is arcade open world game and FM is a simrace game.
If i look at most played on Xbox in EU it does pretty well.

UK #15
France #10
Germany #12
Spain #5
Netherlands #5

Its even above FH in a couple of countries.
It offcourse never get the playercount overall as a very popular arcade racer. But on most played its doing well
 

ArchLector

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I thought Series S would be more popular as the generation went on and casuals started upgrading their consoles but guess not.
This was always a wrong assumption. The Xbox One S was cheaper than the PS4 for a lot of years and yet did not sell more. Clearly gaming is a luxury hobby, and people are not buying consoles blindly based on price.
 

Starlatine

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> People shocked at Xbox console sales
> People not shocked at Xbox console sales
> "How are console sales down with Starfield and Forza releases"
> "Gamepass, duh"
> "Xbox doesn't even really care about console sales. It's not a big deal"
> "Of course Xbox cares about console sales. It's bad"
> "Xbox is probably going to exit the hardware space"
> "Don't be stupid"

Is that about right?

missed one "consolidation is bad" in the middle but other than that, pretty much

This was always a wrong assumption. The Xbox One S was cheaper than the PS4 for a lot of years and yet did not sell more. Clearly gaming is a luxury hobby, and people are not buying consoles blindly based on price.

people are still very much price sensitive
the problem is that the series s isnt that cheap either, specially outside the anglosphere (and double specially where i live now)
 

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
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Maybe it is really true and Xbox needed Activision to survive against Sony, like they said to the regulators.
Those Xbox hardware numbers from around the world are kinda bad, and they are really bad of you look at the PS numbers.
Those systems are almost identical, only games and services make the difference.