Nice you couldn't be more wrong.
It's not a soft reboot.
If it was a different character it wouldn't be called God of War. Kratos IS God of war.
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'God of War' shows how far the video game industry has matured... and how far it has to go
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Nice you couldn't be more wrong.
It's not a soft reboot.
If it was a different character it wouldn't be called God of War. Kratos IS God of war.
He wasn't depicted as black pre-tragedy in the original game, he was depicted as olive skinned.
He wasn't depicted as olive skinned pre-tragedy in Ghost of Sparta, he was full on white.
Ah, thought it was a reboot. Honestly that's even more reason for me to skip it given how unsavory I found the main character.
This opinion always seems weird to me because the one thing Kratos cared about in the originals games was his family.
The story in this game is about his redemption, or his attempt for it, and his realization that there may be none for him.
I honestly don't understand these sentiments about God of War raising the bar in storytelling, even in videogames, its ok, im liking it but nothing groundbreaking in games imo, Naughty Dog has done better before hell Hellblade i heard was pretty good and even i don't see any better than some Ubi AssCreed games.
The characters are only interesting in relation with what happened before (in Krato's life) but still. They don't touch on that alot.(haven't finished the game though).
The world design is top notch
The characters are only interesting in relation with what happened before (in Krato's life) but still. They don't touch on that alot.(haven't finished the game though).
The world design is top notch
some of these people are weird....i wonder what are these people's stance of criminal rehabilitation in real life..
Except, and this is the best part, the two games I named (the original and Ghost of Sparta) have plenty of flashbacks to the pre-tragedy Kratos.
There is much to absolutely agree with in the article, especially when it comes to "AAA" games.
But then, there's the head-scratching stuff about Dream Daddy's relevance to God of War which just comes off as...odd.
But then, there's the head-scratching stuff about Dream Daddy's relevance to God of War which just comes off as...odd.
He left them, then killed them! Hahaha
Then millions of other people....the realization there might be no redemption for him. He has to realize that? Still picking out Poseidon's eye juice or Helios' neck tendons from under his fingernails and he might realize there's no redemption for himself. Hahaha
So because the fact that Atreus mother is dead (presumably from natural causes) is a plot device means the game isn't progressive enough....Okay.
The entire plot of the game centres around
Literally a place of reverence. The selective standards on display is just gross.
The entire plot of the game centres around
taking her ashes to the peek of a holy mountain per her wishes.
Sometimes I think some people really try hard do find issues where there might be none and lose track of the context of the characters
Kratos is a fucking god of war, who used rage and vengeance to dictate all or most of his actions, and people are talking about toxic masculinity ?
The name of the game is god of war, maybe it implies that the main character is a fucking badass warlord that maybe, just maybe, has no manners ?
Kratos has matured as a father, but do you expect him to become a mr Rogers?
Kratos is a fucking god of war, who used rage and vengeance to dictate all or most of his actions, and people are talking about toxic masculinity ?
The name of the game is god of war, maybe it implies that the main character is a fucking badass warlord that maybe, just maybe, has no manners ?
Kratos has matured as a father, but do you expect him to become a mr Rogers?
I feel like there are allot of people commenting on a game they haven't played and just know gow=violent man.
Is the argument here that violence needs to be done away with in AAA games? Also. The bolded. Uhm.
There are plenty of games that don't have violence in them, but that's not going to be the norm 'cause most people aren't going to want to play it.
Looks like a brown tone to me, never heard of the term "olive" being applied to people's skin colors.
I think more than anything, this shows us how fucking stupid racial demarcations are lol.
Are you sure about GoS? The flashbacks are all in black and white, even his brother looks pale, while he clearly is not once you meet him at the end.
Maybe it is just me, but I like to attribute said decisions to said developer and not use it to hold over the entire series. Especially when the rest of the series maintained that consistency with the plot point. Not saying you are specifically using it that way, btw.
The game deals quite a bit with Kratos' toxic personality traits. Its a big part of the game.
Yes, my point exactly. Kratos changes and people still think it is not enough .There is so much you can change .
I mean, I agree. Narrative consistency was hardly something the older God of War games were good about anyway.
User Warned: “Reverse racism” nonsense
Do we really need to get into racism?
Having a black voice actor has absolutely nothing to do with the race choice of the digital character on screen. It is even more racist if the developer are forced doing it for being "equal".
Having a black voice actor has absolutely nothing to do with the race choice of the digital character on screen. It is even more racist if the developer are forced doing it for being "equal".
for real?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_skin
it's not something that was made up for the sake of discussion in this thread
Not really. The press just think that way. And tries to force the issue.
Most video game fans don't care at all. Th3y just want good games and God of War is a good one..
I agree. I find it kinda difficult to believe that someone has never heard that description for skin color before.
Eh, overall the consistency was there within the first 3 console titles (I can't speak on Ascension as I never played it). Now the finer points, I agree.
I'm not really sure where there coming from with changing kratos face to look more like Judge's. How exactly does that help with this particural topic?
Otherwise the rest seems pretty on point to varying degrees. This series while not so blatantly sexist as in the past, still could improve on depiction of female characters. It sucks that by the end of the game there's not
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Otherwise the rest seems pretty on point to varying degrees. This series while not so blatantly sexist as in the past, still could improve on depiction of female characters. It sucks that by the end of the game there's not
a single female character in a positive or even neutral role. There's barely any to begin with, but they consist of Faye whose dead, Athena whose barely in the game and an antagonist, the Valkyries who are victims/antagonists and the witch who at the end becomes an antagonist
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I suppose you find it difficult that people can maybe not be native english speakers?
I don't remember saying it was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_skin
Kratos' skin tone is common among people living in southern Italy and Greece Mediterranean people are still Caucasian, which Kratos is since he's Spartan, IE: greek.
I think this point is a good one, though I think the sort of immature/toxic maculinity is just kind of part of God of War's DNA, and honestly, it's a fun part when delivered appropriately. We need a wider variety of games and stories, particularly at this sort of budget, and a critique of such a large and successful release in that regard is a great way to discuss that message...but I think it's okay for God of War itself to have those elements. I'll always want my over-the-top, visceral and exhilarating violence from stuff like God of War and Doom (naturally this stuff doesn't work if it's not delivered in the context of fun gameplay). But as a whole, sure, those sort of elements cover far too much of the industry.
I feel like I'm really stumbling through this thought, forgive me.
Yep, I feel like this article accurately reflects how I feel about this game. Was genuinely interested with the whole father son dynamic, but the gratuitous violence just turned me off, especially in the context of "showing your son how it's done". Will not be picking this up. I've grown up, and I hope that more games can too.
Yeah, it's fine. The sexist nonsense of the prior games is thankfully gone. No more using topless women as puzzle pieces (seriously, who the fuck greenlit that?)
This is actually true, new Lara has much more depth and complexity than older Lara. I can't even recall old Lara's characterization beyond being knowledgeable about artifacts yet this scene has so much more weight simply because it shows how much she's grown as a character since the first game:
vs.
That's genuine character growth, older Lara was much more static.
Arguably the game is very vague about the specific things Kratos has done. Instead it generalizes him as being a monster.
One of the major plot points of the game is that the norse god of war was incredibly peaceful.
How do you leave out the biggest female character in the game?
I know.
Yep
I knew I should have edited my post to say "I don't have any issue with it, and these aren't my opinions, just something I'm picking up reading about it on the internet"
I really had no idea, I just thought he was like a moor or something.