Don't you know, Console Publishers are holding these games hostage™.
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God Of War And The Importance Of Console Exclusives (The Jimquisition) - SPOILERS in video
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Don't you know, Console Publishers are holding these games hostage™.
Again, you're specifically looking at the chips and not any other part of the feature set.
Switch is generic because the Nvidia Shield exists
what logic
tell me how you feel about apple products and the buyers that queued up overnight for a product launch and went all-in on apple's ecosystem.....
or are you one of those last bastion of 'freedom' that uses a firefox phone?
No, it's generic because it uses an off the shelf Nvidia GPU and an ARM CPU like pretty much every modern portable device on the planet. There's a reason it's so easy to emulate already.
The only real absolute positive of this generation for MS was they built a great foundation of services, but software wise, they massively dropped the ball.
And again, if all you care about is the chipset in the case then you're missing half the plot
I will never understand people who can't look at gaming as anything other than an exercise for their processors
At least it managed to sell like 1.5 million on the Wii U
ah.......truly a last bastion. You fight the power, brother!
*continue to play God Of War on my PS4 and talking crap on Discord using my smartphone*
Like clockwork every year... when sony releases a game both critically and or commercially acclaimed the following things happen:
1. Phil/Microsoft Is bombarded on twitter with concern. He assures people he heres them, and the gaming community takes what he says out of complex and hypes up Microsofts E3 only to be let down and proceed to bombard phil/MS again, though it's never 100% his fault.
2. The term anti consumer gets thrown at sony a lot, because they want to play games on their platform of choice.
3. And we are bombarded by the do exclusives matter arguments... again. I agree with Jim, when all things are equal or close, exclusives matter and can be a pretty big determining factor. If resolution doesn't matter, to the general public it doesn't, the desicion between a ps4, xb1, and switch, library factors in: if I'm interested in red dead 2, I can take the switch out of consideration, leaving me with 2 options. Oh I like read dead and racing so an xb1s forza bundle may seem more appealing, conversely a spidey ps4 may be more up another person's ally. Exclusives add value to consoles.
1. Phil/Microsoft Is bombarded on twitter with concern. He assures people he heres them, and the gaming community takes what he says out of complex and hypes up Microsofts E3 only to be let down and proceed to bombard phil/MS again, though it's never 100% his fault.
2. The term anti consumer gets thrown at sony a lot, because they want to play games on their platform of choice.
3. And we are bombarded by the do exclusives matter arguments... again. I agree with Jim, when all things are equal or close, exclusives matter and can be a pretty big determining factor. If resolution doesn't matter, to the general public it doesn't, the desicion between a ps4, xb1, and switch, library factors in: if I'm interested in red dead 2, I can take the switch out of consideration, leaving me with 2 options. Oh I like read dead and racing so an xb1s forza bundle may seem more appealing, conversely a spidey ps4 may be more up another person's ally. Exclusives add value to consoles.
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Wait, some people still think consoles use off-the-shelf parts?
Just like they did with Bayo 3 ;)
Damn that Nintendo funding games no one else wants to in exchange for exclusivity.
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Gaming in 2018 is just software written in mostly C and C++ or even higher level languages that could basically run on any modern device. The fact that Doom 2016 exists on the Switch proves that. You could make God of War on the Switch hardware with some concessions without losing what the game is. Hardware is not a big deal anymore. It's basically a little faster or slower.
Sure, tell me that Nintendo games are somehow more special because you're touching a specific plastic controller when playing them or that they only look right when you look at whichever panel Nintendo chose for it (even though Nintendo has no problem picking whichever type of panel they can get cheapest at the time), and tell me that I can't truly appreciate an album unless I listen to it on vinyl.
Playing games on Nintendo's hardware sounds "warmer," right?
So I suppose it would be better for the consumer if Sony's and Nintendo's studios and games didn't exist.
They do. Basically every customization is for security/DRM/anti-tampering.
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/...endo-shield-built-standard-tegra-x1-processor
Considering what that plastic controller is actually able to do while you're using it, hell yeah I will
and that's the point I'm trying to make
idk about all that other bullshit you came up with, really shows what kind of person you are tho
If Sony and Nintendo can't make games that sell on their own merits without being software dumped so they can squeeze licensing protection money out of developers, then yes, it would.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-consumer
It is not in my interest for God of War to not be on the Switch.
It is not in my interest for Mario Odyssey to not be on the PS4.
It is not in my interest for World of Warcraft to not be on the Xbox One.
I couldn't care less. It sure blows goats for those things to be true for people who own the hardware, though. In other words, it's not favorable to the consumer. In other words, anti-consumer.
Same! lol I was tired and sleepy when i reached that part and just gave up.
OK.Gaming in 2018 is just software written in mostly C and C++ or even higher level languages that could basically run on any modern device. The fact that Doom 2016 exists on the Switch proves that. You could make God of War on the Switch hardware with some concessions without losing what the game is. Hardware is not a big deal anymore. It's basically a little faster or slower.
Sure, tell me that Nintendo games are somehow more special because you're touching a specific plastic controller when playing them or that they only look right when you look at whichever panel Nintendo chose for it (even though Nintendo has no problem picking whichever type of panel they can get cheapest at the time), and tell me that I can't truly appreciate an album unless I listen to it on vinyl.
Playing games on Nintendo's hardware sounds "warmer," right?
Bayonetta 2 still wouldn't exist if Nintendo didn't fund the development.
I never knew I didn't want a PS4 when I bought it lol
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1st party exclusives? No, they are not.
Or you simply buy the hardware you want and get the games you want. And people do that a lot, for several generations already.
Yeah, you can't either, as it seems.
I know, right?
Damn why is all of netflix's content, amazons and apples not on the same platform, so anti consumer YA'LL.
My PS4 can't make me ice cream
it's in my interest to eat fresh ice cream while I game
so anti-consumer
it's in my interest to eat fresh ice cream while I game
so anti-consumer
I'd love it if the next seasons of Luke cage and daredevil were on hulu so I wouldn't have to pay for Netflix jk
Actually, I'd bet anything that Bayonetta 2 could have got made (and made more money) if they had done a combination of crowd funding and backing from another publisher that would have let them put the game on all the major platforms. Bayonetta 2 was a financial disaster because it shipped on a doomed console. It could have done okay if it had been released on every major platform. As it is now, if Bayonetta 3 tanks like 2 did, I bet Nintendo won't fund another one, and they'll have to go their own way anyway.
This thread has gone to places - whew...
I don't see why games, that are generally funded by a platform holder like Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony, shouldn't be exclusive to their platform. They paid for it, they can do what they want with it. Bayonetta 2, Bloodborne, Sunset Overdrive? Why do those have to release on every platform out there? Doesn't make sense in any way.
Third party exclusives without platform holder's money behind them, yeah, that's another thing. Don't have much sympathy for those, either. But every release one of the platform holders has invested into, be it money or ressources like development?
I don't see why games, that are generally funded by a platform holder like Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony, shouldn't be exclusive to their platform. They paid for it, they can do what they want with it. Bayonetta 2, Bloodborne, Sunset Overdrive? Why do those have to release on every platform out there? Doesn't make sense in any way.
Third party exclusives without platform holder's money behind them, yeah, that's another thing. Don't have much sympathy for those, either. But every release one of the platform holders has invested into, be it money or ressources like development?
"anti-consumer" is basically "thing that kind of annoys me" to most people
it's a term with no real weight to it anymore
Good video like his last few have been, Jim is getting a little bit more enjoyable to watch recently or maybe it was just me being a bit sick of his routine before I stopped watching his videos for a while I dunno. Wasn't anything really that most of us didn't already know but he hit the nail on the head regardless. The only downside of console exclusives as far as I can see generally is that they bring out the worst in people overall it seems- going waaaay OTT in either rooting for their success or failure. We see this even on this site on a frequent basis unfortunately, as the last weeks have shown in reference to the game in the video.
And on another note I really don't see console exclusives as being anti-consumer generally. I'm fine buying a Nintendo to play Nintendo games and a PlayStation to play Sony games and so on. Never really seen that argument TBH.
And on another note I really don't see console exclusives as being anti-consumer generally. I'm fine buying a Nintendo to play Nintendo games and a PlayStation to play Sony games and so on. Never really seen that argument TBH.
Every thread I think to myself what somebody can do to turn the entire thread negative. Some of y'all never fail to disappoint
Of course exclusives matter. I don't get people saying all gamers should have access to said games. Exclusives are in all facets of life and drives capitalism. It also lays down the foundation for innovation and overall bang for your buck for the customer.
Still wrong in this implication.
Correct.
LOL same here, I was like ugh I don't have enough time to climb and run, screw this.
It's nice to fantasize, but that never had a chance of happening. Don't pretend that a game of Bayonetta's production values and scope could be a Kickstarter venture.
They could, but you wouldn't get something of the type and quality of God of War or BOTW. So again, how would it be better for the consumer if these didn't exist?
Although it's irrelevant to the original discussion, what are you talking about software dumped? Those other 3rd party developers choose to put their games on consoles. If they were so worried about giving licensing money to Sony as you suggest they can stick to their own store on PC.