"Don't trip—I'm gonna take it off your hands for you."
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Ethiopia says British museum must permanently return its artifacts
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I came for this.
The Elgin Marbles are among the most priceless and historic artifacts in the world and the British Museum still won't return them despite the fact they looted them by having Lord Elgin basically buy them off of the Ottoman Empire (who didn't care about them - they were using the Parthenon as weapons storage)
It's 2018, my G... Of course we'll just let it pass. We got niggas like Cyhi da Prince openly advocating white imperialism.
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What countries are we talking about? Western countries would still have plenty of " locally produced " art and artifacts to fill their musuems even if they had to return the stuff they looted during the colonial era. This is a very ignorant and reductive view of european history you hold (also not all european countries had colonies).
I hope Britain gives their stuff back to Ethiopia. It belongs to them.
Eventually they will act logically and give it all back but until then every nation of the world that has something stolen from them must shout and demand it.
I'd only argue for holding onto artifacts as a means of protection if it felt like the country was about to fall apart at any moment. Meaning I'm not keen on returning Syrian artifacts right now.
I'm pretty sure Ethiopia is fine though.
I'm pretty sure they used that argument when they seized the Elgin Marbles too. Because the Ottomans didn't give a shit about them and really did blow up a bunch of 'em.
You see. Your problem is that you're judging what they said by modern standards, rather that when it was originally posted......
User banned (1 week): Inflammatory posting, bragging about colonialism.
Haha come get them! We don't take demands from Ethiopia.
And in my mind the argument stops working when the country is functional again. Meaning there's no reason to keep holding on to stuff from Greece because I can't see it being destroyed anytime soon.
First thing that came to mind. A fantastic scene.
"Don't trip—I'm gonna take it off your hands for you."
Yo Victoria and Albert you should give it back. And if you really want it work with Ethiopia to get it on loan afterwords.
I didn't mean to say it was a good argument now. That was part of the justification Lord Elgin gave in taking them.
y'all're going to take a lot from pretty much every single country in the world in a few years unless your politicians wise up
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I agree with Ethiopia's request.
FWIW, some people should read more than the title, it's not the British Museum, it's a British museum, the V&A, that's actually run pretty liberally but I imagine these decisions aren't only the museum's to make.
FWIW, some people should read more than the title, it's not the British Museum, it's a British museum, the V&A, that's actually run pretty liberally but I imagine these decisions aren't only the museum's to make.
colonial defense force is in full effect
oh, well then i guess theft & continuing to not return things is okay
India: http://abcnews.go.com/US/us-returns...india-federal-investigation/story?id=39648637
Italy: https://www.thelocal.it/20170526/th...orical-artifacts-to-italy-museums-trafficking
Thailand: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/us-returns-stolen-ancient-artifacts-thailand
South Korea: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...eturns-stolen-royal-seals-south-korea-n780246
Russia: https://www.rt.com/news/334458-stolen-documents-us-russia/
The list goes on.
Trump was called to block any more returns under processing
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/...ama-move-send-stolen-jewish-daniel-greenfield
The articles did eventually get returned however, but it was from the state department and not by trump himself, because the order was already signed by Obama years ago and could not be stopped. But I wouldn't expect any additional returns to occur.
At the moment, I think the Balanbinga Bells from the Phillippiness is the most worthy stolen possession still in the US
Elect another Obama-style president and we could probably finish off the list.
the only thing I remember from the V&A was when I visited as a young child and they had a photography exhibition on and one of the photos was a really badly composed vision of a very pale, very white couple standing next to each other...a topless skinny man and a bottomless woman
I remember the woman had a supremely hairy minge
I wish they'd have given that back to wherever they got it before my impressionable eyes had become set on it, it's the only memory I have of that fucking museum
I remember the woman had a supremely hairy minge
I wish they'd have given that back to wherever they got it before my impressionable eyes had become set on it, it's the only memory I have of that fucking museum
In that moment, Cocolina could never look a vagina directly ever again. Cocolina would be akward around women through adolescents, until they watched their first porno.
I came in here to post this.
"Don't trip—I'm gonna take it off your hands for you."
When I think of all the irreplaceable historical treasures that have been destroyed by the Taliban, the Islamic State and other religious nutjobs in recent years, I get sick. These artefacts belonged to all of mankind.
I am glad the British Museum exists, and I am fine with it keeping everything it has. At least there the artefacts are safe and can be enjoyed by future generations.
I am glad the British Museum exists, and I am fine with it keeping everything it has. At least there the artefacts are safe and can be enjoyed by future generations.
Yea because only the UK has this magical technology called museums lol, the fuck is this
I instantly thought of the same thing.
"Don't trip—I'm gonna take it off your hands for you."
As someone who's of Habesha descent (Eritrean-American), I agree that the UK should give Ethiopia their artifacts back.
Nothing, I just used it as an example how many irreplaceable cultural artefacts were recently destoyed, which would still exist if they had been in the British Museum.
There are constant civil wars, unrest etc. in many parts of Africa. Artefacts get stolen and sold to private collectors by unscrupulous dealers. At least in the British Museum, these artefacts are safely kept and can be enjoyed by everyone.
Then it has fuck all to do with anything. White people don't get to take everyone else's shit because there are brown people somewhere else doing something.
I can't say I agree with the notion that we (westerners) are somehow better caretakers. Regardless of how well meaning this is, it's way too close to disgusting colonial paternalism for comfort.
Hell, I'd say bombing to shit Iraqi museums and letting looters do their job has earned us the right to shut up.
Hell, I'd say bombing to shit Iraqi museums and letting looters do their job has earned us the right to shut up.
Exactly, they won't even literally cross the street to check these anyway.
Africa isn't a fucking country. If you have in depth knowledge of how every museum in Ethiopia is getting frequently robbed and looted, please feel free to share
Everyone in London, maybe. Meanwhile, Ethiopians that want to learn about their own country have to travel to another continent to see these.
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