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Ethiopia says British museum must permanently return its artifacts

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platocplx

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Source:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ermanently-return-its-artifacts-idUSKBN1HU2M2

DDIS ABABA (Reuters) - Britain must permanently return all artifacts from Ethiopia held by the Victoria and Albert Museum and Addis Ababa will not accept them on loan, an Ethiopian government official said.
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"What we have asked (for) was the restitution of our heritage, our Maqdala heritage, looted from Maqdala 150 years ago. We presented our request in 2007 and we are waiting for it," government minister Hirut Woldemariam said.

Ephrem Amare, Ethiopian National Museum director, added: "It is clearly known where these treasures came from and whom they belong to. Our main demand has never been to borrow them. Ethiopia's demand has always been the restoration of those illegally looted treasures. Not to borrow them."

The V&A said on Tuesday the idea of a long-term loan had come up as it discussed its Maqdala exhibition with Ethiopian authorities. "The V&A is committed to continuing this important and wide-ranging dialogue with colleagues at the Ethiopian Embassy in London," it added in a statement.
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I wonder if britan would comply, Probally not since they've been asking since 2007. But i think artifacts like this stolen should be put back to their proper places and people.
 
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giving back would probably be the moral thing to do. but if you take the british museum away, what do the english have left in 2018? so i can understand why they don't want to
 
Arc

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I bet they won't. It would set precedent for all sorts of shit I'm sure.
 
IrishNinja

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"Don't trip—I'm gonna take it off your hands for you."
 
Vadara

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If European countries had to give back the shit they stole from other countries, they'd be left literally destitute.
 
Driggonny

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They're not going to comply unfortunately. British museum has so much shit stolen from other countries it's ridiculous
 
Temascos

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Might want to update the title so it's clear that it's the V&A Museum and not the British Museum itself.

That being said, they should give it back. As much as I like going to the museums on a day off and seeing all this stuff a lot of it was taken by force, and if anything, we should be loaning it from them, not the other way around. That should apply for everything that's in these museums where possible, and as long as both parties are able to preserve them for future generations.
 
Noroi_Kisaragi

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The amount of stolen artifacts america returned under the obama administration was unreal
Trump would never do it

Time for britain to step up
 
neoak

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If they return them, I give it a year before they go to "private" collections.

The corruption levels in those countries is staggering.
 
Socrates

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They weren't "illegally looted", they started a war and they lost. Victor takes the spoils. Besides, you can't apply modern rules of diplomatic relations to the past. The British actions were acceptable by the standards of the time.
 
Dyle

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The V&A usually doesn't get much flack for repatriation, interesting seeing them in the hot seat rather than The British Museum. They'll never do it, which is shitty and wrong but the precedent it sets can be extremely dangerous for a collection like their's. In this case, knowing that the stuff was taken as part of British military action they should definitely be returned. I'm a little shocked they offered to send them to Ethiopia on a long-term loan though, that's more flexibility than you usually get and indicates that they recognize that something will have to be done about this sooner or later. Usually, as with the Parthenon frieze, they just shrug it off with a simple no.
 

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Yes. Imperial looting of colonies is an unimaginable crime. Fuck Imperialist Britain.
 
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Not happening. It sets a precedent for giving artifacts back, and there's no guarantee they will be able to care for the items properly. I hate to say it, but looting would be a real issue if objects were returned.
 
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Socrates said:
They weren't "illegally looted", they started a war and they lost. Victor takes the spoils. Besides, you can't apply modern rules of diplomatic relations to the past. The British actions were acceptable by the standards of the time.
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you likewise can't pretend to hide by the "norms" of colonialism from centuries gone by when rationalizing the refusal to return things in our modern age

Wulfric said:
Not happening. It sets a precedent for giving artifacts back, and there's no guarantee they will be able to care for the items properly. I hate to say it, but looting would be a real issue if objects were returned.
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because other countries can't safely contain their belongings? speaking of colonialism, this post really follows that mindset
 
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neoak said:
If they return them, I give it a year before they go to "private" collections.

The corruption levels in those countries is staggering.
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Wulfric said:
Not happening. It sets a precedent for giving artifacts back, and there's no guarantee they will be able to care for the items properly. I hate to say it, but looting would be a real issue if objects were returned.
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This kind of mentality is just straight up fucking colonial bullshit. Yeah, the dirty third world people cant be trusted to take care of their heritage.

White man's burden yo.

Socrates said:
They weren't "illegally looted", they started a war and they lost. Victor takes the spoils. Besides, you can't apply modern rules of diplomatic relations to the past. The British actions were acceptable by the standards of the time.
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At least this guy is being honest. "We won, get fucked."
 
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Ebullientprism said:
This kind of mentality is just straight up fucking colonial bullshit. Yeah, the dirty third world people cant be trusted to take care of their heritage.

White man's burden yo.



At least this guy is being honest. "We won, get fucked."
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Exactly my thoughts. I wasn't expecting a colonial looting defense force on Era but I'm not surprised.
 

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Is there any legal precedent for this? I'd be surprised if this was the first time something like this had happened.
 
Luxorek

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Yeah, good luck with that. British Musem has artifacts from other European countries that they won't ever consider giving back, Elgin Marbles come to mind.
 
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Wulfric said:
Not happening. It sets a precedent for giving artifacts back, and there's no guarantee they will be able to care for the items properly. I hate to say it, but looting would be a real issue if objects were returned.
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LOL
It's their property. This is an absurd and completely unfounded excuse. What is this? The British looter's burden?! They have to protect those Ethiopian savages from themselves?
 
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