I consider these figures to be the most significant members of their fields. Walt Disney for animation, Stan Lee for comic books and Shigeru Miyamoto for video games. Whose career are you into the most?
Do you like the creations of Walt Disney, Stan Lee or Shigeru Miyamoto the best?
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Stan Lee as the most significant figure in comics is debatable - I think even his most ardent admirers would concede that he worked hand-in-hand with some astonishing artists, and I think when you really start digging it becomes clearer how much some of "his" characters owe to the artists who worked on them (often scripting/creating, with Lee coming along after).
Definitely an amazing salesman and a solid editor, with some creative flair of his own, but he gets far more credit for the creative side than he deserves. That still makes him a significant figure, but I'd put folk like Kirby above him if we're talking about the pure creative aspects.
This is probably a fair way of thinking about it - credits Lee with what he was really good at, and gives a justification for putting him forward as the most influential figure in comics.
Definitely an amazing salesman and a solid editor, with some creative flair of his own, but he gets far more credit for the creative side than he deserves. That still makes him a significant figure, but I'd put folk like Kirby above him if we're talking about the pure creative aspects.
This is probably a fair way of thinking about it - credits Lee with what he was really good at, and gives a justification for putting him forward as the most influential figure in comics.
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Gotta be Lee.
Dude might have unscrupulous with the crediting, but as a salesman and promoter he's unmatched. No way Marvel takes off like it did without him. Ditko and Kirby may have been the real talent, but Lee sold that shit in a way no one else could.
Dude might have unscrupulous with the crediting, but as a salesman and promoter he's unmatched. No way Marvel takes off like it did without him. Ditko and Kirby may have been the real talent, but Lee sold that shit in a way no one else could.
The stuff Disney made was pretty old when I was a kid. I liked the new Disney stuff much better. I was never into comics but I can see that having a huge influence if you are into Lees creations.
Mario, Mario3, 64 plus Zelda, LTTP and 64 all are extremely memorable for me so out of these choices it's Miyamoto.
Mario, Mario3, 64 plus Zelda, LTTP and 64 all are extremely memorable for me so out of these choices it's Miyamoto.
The latter is a failing of Hollywood.
Like Star Wars and Superman cleaned up at the box office, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind a properly made Spider-Man or X-Men film would've destroyed at the box office too in the 70s. Lee was years and years ahead of the curve.
It's far and away Disney just by nature of him being the oldest, and thus most influential of the bunch. Stan Lee's and Shigeru Miyamoto's works basically wouldn't really be what they are without Disney first paving the way. Keep in mind as well that Disney was involved in many different industries, not just animation. So his "creations" include, like, Disneyland.
I didn't really grow up with Walt Disney or Marvel, instead I was all about those Cartoon Network originals/Hannah Barbara reruns. Warner Bros cartoons too. Disney was really boring by comparison. Teen Disney became a thing when I was a teenager and it was simply awful.
Also thought superheroes were lame. (still kinda do)
Shigsy all the way though. I'll always love his creations.
Also thought superheroes were lame. (still kinda do)
Shigsy all the way though. I'll always love his creations.
Disney had massive influence on aspects outside cartoons, even within his own lifetime. Within cartoons, the influence is almost baked in. Although, I suppose there's something to be said that Marvel's most distinctive artist came out of a studio that was stylistically different than Disney.
Miyamoto's vision is both limited and enhanced by the technology he worked on, but he's not quite THE guy, although he is definitely a prime mover in the medium.
This is hard.
Miyamoto's vision is both limited and enhanced by the technology he worked on, but he's not quite THE guy, although he is definitely a prime mover in the medium.
This is hard.
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I would agree that Lee is the most debatable pick here. You could reasonably argue someone like like Jack Kirby or Osamu Tezuka is more significant, but that's not the main point of this thread.
Stan Lee and it's not close. Miyamoto is a distant second altho both are among the five or so artists who have influenced me the most.
Disney doesn't even chart for me.
Disney doesn't even chart for me.
Stan Lee did a great job with Watchmen but Miyamoto created Sonic.. so it's a tough one.
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One only has to look at Ditko's indie objectivist stint to know that he wouldn't have been the one to build the House of Marvel. A house is more than the bricks that build it.
And it's really easy to see Lee as the Jobs to Ditko, Kirby, and others' Wozniak, but at least Lee could actually write. He didn't pen all of the works of the 60s, but he didn't pen none of it.
Easily Miyamoto. Nintendo is my favorite company out there. Disney was a big part of my childhood so he's second. I'm not a big comic book person.
Mickey Mouse isn't an interesting character, so I don't know why I would pick Walt.
Stan Lee? Even with Ditko/Kirby stuff included, I don't know. Comic books don't excite me that much.
So Miyamoto.Was the most impactful on my youth, and of these three, is still the ones whose creations I enjoy the most.
Stan Lee? Even with Ditko/Kirby stuff included, I don't know. Comic books don't excite me that much.
So Miyamoto.Was the most impactful on my youth, and of these three, is still the ones whose creations I enjoy the most.
If you go down that route you gotta name Segar whos Popeye further popularized comic strips and was obviously the biggest influence on Super Mario.
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? Walt's brother Roy was actually behind the business aspect of the studio.
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Outside of Mickey and friends, all Walt Disney did was adapt fairy tales that were already written.
Myamoto created Mario, Link, and the Pikmin explorers. All three protagonists have shallow and fairly hollow personalities so the player can input themselves into them. They also tell the same basic story over and over again.
While Stan Lee did co-collaborate with his talent, he did help create all those characters and worlds.
I'm giving it to Lee.
Myamoto created Mario, Link, and the Pikmin explorers. All three protagonists have shallow and fairly hollow personalities so the player can input themselves into them. They also tell the same basic story over and over again.
While Stan Lee did co-collaborate with his talent, he did help create all those characters and worlds.
I'm giving it to Lee.
Stan Lee easily and it ain't even a competition.
What are Mario and Mickey Mouse's insecurities? Does Link have trouble paying his bills? Stan wanted his creations to be relatable to his readers by giving them real world complexities. Superman and Batman were "perfect" heroes. Stan wanted Peter Parker to go through the same issues that all of us do. He can climb walls and has Spider-Sense-but he can't help his aunt pay her rent.
What are Mario and Mickey Mouse's insecurities? Does Link have trouble paying his bills? Stan wanted his creations to be relatable to his readers by giving them real world complexities. Superman and Batman were "perfect" heroes. Stan wanted Peter Parker to go through the same issues that all of us do. He can climb walls and has Spider-Sense-but he can't help his aunt pay her rent.
