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DF Retro: The Final Fantasy 13 Saga - Part 1
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View: https://youtu.be/0GniyLat8fY
Part 2, which includes XIII-2 and Lightning Returns will be uploaded to YT later, but can be accessed by subscribing to Digital Foundry's Patreon.
DF, don't give them ideas. They gonna think it aged well and gonna remaster it then remake it and XIII is already 3 parts they gonna segemnt each part into 3 parts so they gonna sell it for us 9 times. XD
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Underrated game, but to put this much effort into ff13? Sure I'll watch but not something I would do personally lol
Checking this out right now.
I have to admit on the topic of FFXIII, I was a big hater upon the game's release but I've been on a gradual journey to kind of appreciating the series. I've already kind of warmed up to XIII and XIII-2 but still haven't come around entirely on Lighting Returns. It's been a slow and steady redemption arc for the XIII saga in my eyes, though I also admit that I haven't beaten either XIII or XIII-2 so I don't have comprehensive first-hand experience with them, but it's a project on the backburner to finally just push my way through the games and see where I stand on actual experience rather than the various positive retrospectives which have begun to influence the change of heart for me.
Alas, XIII videos like this one are some of the most compelling games analysis for me ... XIII was a black spot on a series that I've otherwise completely loved, MMORPGs included (excepting XIV 1.0, terrible game, but I guess that was also technically in the exact same time period with XIII as well).
I have to admit on the topic of FFXIII, I was a big hater upon the game's release but I've been on a gradual journey to kind of appreciating the series. I've already kind of warmed up to XIII and XIII-2 but still haven't come around entirely on Lighting Returns. It's been a slow and steady redemption arc for the XIII saga in my eyes, though I also admit that I haven't beaten either XIII or XIII-2 so I don't have comprehensive first-hand experience with them, but it's a project on the backburner to finally just push my way through the games and see where I stand on actual experience rather than the various positive retrospectives which have begun to influence the change of heart for me.
Alas, XIII videos like this one are some of the most compelling games analysis for me ... XIII was a black spot on a series that I've otherwise completely loved, MMORPGs included (excepting XIV 1.0, terrible game, but I guess that was also technically in the exact same time period with XIII as well).
One of the most unique combat systems I've ever engaged with in a JRPG. Man, those later fights were so much fun. Excellent music, too. Glad this game has been getting some more love recently. Always felt that if it was a new IP and not called Final Fantasy (and the expectations that come with that), maybe people would've liked it more and engaged with the game on its own terms rather than what is expected of an FF game.
Thought as Patreon subscriber I'd somehow be able to access those early videos on YouTube. Guess not. Browser videos are pretty useless for me as a Smart TV user.
I liked aspects of the trilogy. Sazh was great, the combat was excellent and the visuals were amazing at the time (and still look good now).
The biggest drag for me was Lightning herself. Such a terrible character. It says alot that her own sister outshines her in nearly every conceivable way.
The biggest drag for me was Lightning herself. Such a terrible character. It says alot that her own sister outshines her in nearly every conceivable way.
This is all I want 😂 FFXIII-2 did that, but I wasn't a fan of the monsters taking up the third character slot. If 13 cuts out the Shift animation it'll make this one of the best battle systems in the series. Also, 13 desperately needs a hard mode too
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We're further away from FFXIII's release than FFVII was when XIII released.
Outside of really not liking cheat engine/wemod(which I was still able to get working after a bit of tweaking), the gamepass/windows store version is pretty good. Performance is way better then the steam version.
I found XIII OK but unspectacular, and really, really disliked XIII-2, but as more time passes I find myself wanting a 4K trilogy re-release more and more. I find a weird kind of nostalgia for it that I can't quite explain and wouldn't mind revisiting it for a re-evaluation, and never played LR either so that would be a bonus. Not having an Xbox or a PC means even revisiting the old releases isn't really a possibility for me.
I think it's probably the soundtrack. That soundtrack is so damn good.
I think it's probably the soundtrack. That soundtrack is so damn good.
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Yeah, it was more like: "Damn, time flies like a MFer..."
Exactly.
They should copy Witcher 3, collab with the modders plus own devs enhancements and re-release all as remasters
At the time XIII was coming out I was in a brief period of not really paying attention to JRPGs so I skipped it at the time. I think I tried the demo and then moved on.
I finally beat it when it became compatible on Xbox One and I came away pretty impressed. Loved the battle system, music, and environments. I tolerated the characters for the most part and even though I understand the criticism of the linear level design it didn't bother me. And looking at it side by side with the original 360 release it's basically a remaster already lol.
I started XIII-2 a couple years back but haven't gotten very far. That and Lightning Returns are the only single-player mainline FF games I've never beaten so I intend to actually do that eventually.
I finally beat it when it became compatible on Xbox One and I came away pretty impressed. Loved the battle system, music, and environments. I tolerated the characters for the most part and even though I understand the criticism of the linear level design it didn't bother me. And looking at it side by side with the original 360 release it's basically a remaster already lol.
I started XIII-2 a couple years back but haven't gotten very far. That and Lightning Returns are the only single-player mainline FF games I've never beaten so I intend to actually do that eventually.
Thankfully, it did age well so a remaster would be much welcomed!
Is this a 4K video? I'm wondering if it is still being processed or there's no 4K. I assumed it was going to be 4K based on the mention of the One X enhanced version.
EDIT: Nevermind, I saw on digitalfoundry.net that it is NOT in 4K. 😢
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"be honest with yourself. is systematically talking to every npc, in every town, in every game, actually 'fun'? is it 'fun' to then check them a second time to make sure they don't say something different when you talk to them twice?"
yes it fucking owns and is the best part of RPGs.
Are the "this game aged great!" posts ironic or what
FF13 is there with Prince of Persia 2008 and Skyward Sword as near parodies of the pre-Dark Souls era of gaming where developers basically acted as if their audience was completely incapable. The first 15-20 hours of FF13 have almost no gameplay options in traversal, customization, leveling up, or combat. It's a relic of a really bizarre era with the worst story you could write.
Visually, probably the best looking PS3 game before 2013 though.
FF13 is there with Prince of Persia 2008 and Skyward Sword as near parodies of the pre-Dark Souls era of gaming where developers basically acted as if their audience was completely incapable. The first 15-20 hours of FF13 have almost no gameplay options in traversal, customization, leveling up, or combat. It's a relic of a really bizarre era with the worst story you could write.
Visually, probably the best looking PS3 game before 2013 though.
Well, hopefully this is the most depressing thing I'll read all day.
Seriously, leave that shit in the past where it belongs lol
In WRPG's where there is lots of opportunity for role-play, yes. When it's JRPG's where NPC's just say random bullshit, no.
that's why modern JRPG's usually have 90% of NPC's just auto-say some random lines as you walk-up or run by. they know.
I was pretty disappointed with every aspect of FF XIII except its fluid combat and the gorgeous graphics. Some parts still hold pretty well to this day. I'd gladly dive into it again if the trilogy got remastered, specially since I never played XIII-2 and Lighting Returns. I have both stored in some box but I'd rather not play them on an old platform these days.
I the steam version fixed at all though? i remember battles were impossibly frustrating with constant stuttering. Even fix mods never stopped battle stuttering for me.
