DF: Demon's Souls Remake: PS5 vs PS3 Tech Breakdown - A Remake Worth Waiting A Generation For?
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Watching this video... I'm sorry for regurgitating what many have already said but I have say I'm not a fan of Bluepoint's aesthetic choices with the environment and vibrancy of colors in the world. This world is supposed to look dead and oppressive but instead it looks vibrant and alive now and environmental details were added or changed not because they really benefited the game but because they could. By no means does the remake look ugly or bad and I'm actually still excited to play it but it just doesn't really resemble the From Software game that it is.
Is this Demon Souls a remake in the Shadow of the Collosus sense (mostly graphics and not much story and gameplay changes) or is it more like a Resident Evil remake (complete remake / reimagining of everything in the game)?
That's one crazy update lol, damn! With my 1080p screen, a performance mode at a steady 60 fps would be gold. And hopefully load times that do not exceed 5 seconds (my biggest gripe about Bloodborne)!
The grayish green color grading of the original could easily be added back in as a toggle, but I personally will wait to see what the game will end up like in motion before I judge one way or the other.
As for From's "vision" of the game. Demon's Souls was a game that was highly constrained by budget, time, and heavy rework. We as consumers have no idea if the Demon's Souls that was released was actually the finalized vision of what From actually wanted to do with the game. I believe its already been shown that the concept art for the game already hinted at the fact that From would have probably have done more visually with the game if they had the time and resources to do so.
if you did you wouldn't say what are you saying. demons souls looks terrible like proper unfinished terrible. just saying
I think from an artistic perspective I often find myself liking the original versions of these games compared to the remasters. (Gears is another one.)
The originals, due to resource constraints, had to rely on smoke and shadows to hide detail and in doing so tended to be more emotionally atmospheric, IMO. The remasters have this detailed sheen to them, and not always for the better.
(Don't get me wrong, the performance enhancements always make the remasters better.)
The originals, due to resource constraints, had to rely on smoke and shadows to hide detail and in doing so tended to be more emotionally atmospheric, IMO. The remasters have this detailed sheen to them, and not always for the better.
(Don't get me wrong, the performance enhancements always make the remasters better.)
WTF... I can't believe people want the same to look as bland and empty as the original. This is probably what FS was trying to do if the hardware they were working on allowed it. There is foliage and whatnot in the original, if you are in an abandoned city this is what it should look like. This is what bricks in a castle falling apart should look like.
I even wish BP takes this a step further and improved the animation of everything too.
Like how's it even possible to prefer this
To this...
I even wish BP takes this a step further and improved the animation of everything too.
Like how's it even possible to prefer this
To this...
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I'll be sad if the shrine of storms scene with the skeleton was actually CGI. I was really hoping we would get really nice CGI level volumetric smoke and fluid simulation this gen. I guess, maybe not close to launch?
Anyway, the trailer still blows me away. Also, I'm very confused to see various people complain about the lack of fog. The fog density seems to be higher in the remake than the original.
Anyway, the trailer still blows me away. Also, I'm very confused to see various people complain about the lack of fog. The fog density seems to be higher in the remake than the original.
Really like this early comparison. Please make noobe mode couse I really would like to try this title and never played any souls like game
What people don't like about this remake is that it's too bright. Everything is shining through and lighting up the entire game sure you want it to show those things off, but this game is a darker looking game nothing in a lot of these games has been over the top and bright like it is now in the remake.WTF... I can't believe people want the same to look as bland and empty as the original. This is probably what FS was trying to do if the hardware they were working on allowed it. There is foliage and whatnot in the original, if you are in an abandoned city this is what it should look like. This is what bricks in a castle falling apart should look like.
I even wish BP takes this a step further and improved the animation of everything too.
Like how's it even possible to prefer this
To this...
Wait...DF seems to suggest quite a few scenes are pre-rendered in this...Why would they do that if so? I mean even the bits at the start look in engine, but prerendering kind of takes away from presenting it as a system showcase...They also suggested the skeleton soldier was pre-rendered. Really? Again, why would they do that? Doesn't make any sense to me.
That is A-OK with me. That's my favorite Souls game aesthetically
I miss the old architecture. The new one looks amazing but looks straight out of Bloodborne/DS3. That is a huge change.WTF... I can't believe people want the same to look as bland and empty as the original. This is probably what FS was trying to do if the hardware they were working on allowed it. There is foliage and whatnot in the original, if you are in an abandoned city this is what it should look like. This is what bricks in a castle falling apart should look like.
I even wish BP takes this a step further and improved the animation of everything too.
Like how's it even possible to prefer this
To this...
Opening cinematic for the original was pre-rendered, so they're just analyzing the footage available to them, which is mostly just that cinematic on PS5.
WTF... I can't believe people want the same to look as bland and empty as the original. This is probably what FS was trying to do if the hardware they were working on allowed it. There is foliage and whatnot in the original, if you are in an abandoned city this is what it should look like. This is what bricks in a castle falling apart should look like.
I even wish BP takes this a step further and improved the animation of everything too.
Like how's it even possible to prefer this
To this...
The first one seems more...depressing to me. I have also not played Demon's Souls so I have no nostalgia for this game.
But weren't they saying the PS5 trailer was using pre-rendered footage, such as at the beginning? That would be weird if so, they should be able to render that kind of landscape on PS5 particularly if it is just a cutscene. Pretty darn disappointing if it is just CG. It would look very impressive as real time footage, but it wouldn't be impressive as CG. My belief that it is at least in engine is that there is obvious examples of where geometry isn't as crazy as it could be if you were pre-rendering, particularly in the rock formations
I would like t think that's mostly just alighting issue? If we can even call it an issue. Indoor areas would probably be darker, and not all outdoor areas would be as bright. The way I see it is hat the lighting is just more accurate.
I wonder how many people that complaint about remake is too different actualy finished original ;d
Man the comparisons really put the upgrades into perspective, now its seems even more impressive
I for one appreciate this video. Yes, its what we know, but they up to in perspective.
they found one gameplay screen is 1440p so we have dynamic resolution or 1440p60fps performance mode, I've found this video quite interesting (much more informative than only screens comparison we had already)
One things for sure - this will be the best looking souls title and won't have bad frame pacing. I'll be going for the fidelity mode - i want full ray tracing, 4k etc etc.